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Conely trade for real? I sure hope so.

The Portland Trail Blazers and Memphis Grizzlies have discussed a multiplayer trade that centers on the exchange of forward Travis Outlaw and point guard Mike Conley, league sources said Friday.

 

The talks have been ongoing for weeks, but one source close to the Blazers said Portland GM Kevin Pritchard remains hesitant about completing the deal and that a trade doesn’t appear imminent.

The salaries of Outlaw and Conley would allow for a one-on-one swap, but both teams want to include additional players and contracts to satisfy other needs, including Portland’s Sergio Rodriguez and Memphis’ Hakim Warrick and Javaris Crittenton. It is unlikely that this trade will happen for a straight-up exchange of Outlaw and Conley.

 

Outlaw, 24, and Conley, 21, are both represented by agent Bill Duffy, and a source said that he’s been involved in the discussions.

 

Portland has long coveted Conley, in large part because of his childhood friendship with center Greg Oden. Conley and Oden grew up together in Indianapolis, playing together through a Final Four season at Ohio State. Pritchard knows that Conley has the credibility to get in Oden’s face when he needs a push, and that’s played an important part in his trade explorations.

-Yahoo! Sports' Adrian Wojnarowski

Wow, so they're looking at a trade that might look something like this (trademachine)?

Portland Trades: Outlaw, Sergio Rodriguez

Memphis trades: Conely Jr, Hakim Warrick

For the Grizzlies trading Conely Jr makes a lot of sense. Personally I think Conely Jr is better than he is showing in Memphis, but what he's been showing in Memphis really hasn't been much. in identical minutes to last season, both his PPG and APG have dropped. His turnovers per game have dropped but not significantly, His PER has dropped too. He's become stagnant, If it weren't for three statistically good games (and all team losses) in November, Conely Jr would be down significantly (from a stats perspective) from last season.

Remember also that Conely is a sophmore in the NBA, playing probably the most difficult position on the court. Beyond that the kid just turned 21 in October. He's got the physical tools. He's very quick, he's smart, he's strong, he can jump. However, he was also picked #4 in a very strong draft class. This kid's story has been uninspiring so far (beyond you know, that whole NCAA Finals run thing), but its far from over.

From Portland's standpoint, trading both Outlaw and Rodriguez makes sense on some level. Before this season, Outlaw was clamoring for increase playing time and came just shy of demanding a starting role. He'd kind of earned it though. He's listed as a SF, but he spent the majority of his time at the power forward spot in small ball lineups last season. Because in part of a glut of viable big forwards for Portland (Oden, Pryzbilla, Frye, Aldridge), Outlaw has been regulated to the SF spot for the majority of this season. His play hasn't improved but it hasn't dropped off either.

He's a guy that is poised to be a productive 30 minute player for some team, but in Portland there are just too many talented players and too few minutes. Even at the small forward the Blazers have Batum (who has started the majority of the games), Brandon Roy (who moves over when Rudy Fernandez is playing the 2), and Outlaw. Martell Webster is poised to re-enter the lineup and he started 70 games at the 3 for Portland last season. Because Batum is a rookie, its quite possible that Outlaw is the odd man out.

The question I have however is while we know why it makes sense that these teams would trade Outlaw and Conely, why would the Grizzlies want Outlaw? Why would the Blazers want Conley? Wojnarowski doesn't really tackle this in his report, speculating that Oden's friendship with Conely is a motivating factor for the Blazers. The Blazers drafted Skip Jerryd Bayless in June, and as it is now they're only playing Sergio Rodriguez 15 minutes per game as a reserve point guard. The kicker is that recently, Spanish Chocolate (Sergio) has been producing! Where does Conely fit into a rotation that already plays Steve Blake 30 minutes per game?

As far as Outlaw and the Grizzlies go, I can only imagine that Outlaw would replace Darrel Arthur as the starting power forward, and that Sergio would either replace Conely or fight with Kyle Lowery for PT (and probably win) at the point. On some level it makes sense for the Grizzlies, but with Outlaw shooting just shy of 50% from 3 (seriously), it would make a lot more sense to try to move Rudy Gay to the 2, and Outlaw to the 3. But then, where does rookie phenom OJ Mayo fit in? The benefit for the Grizzlies is that they're losing, so any lineup moves can be chalked up to "tinkering".

Personally despite the less than ideal matchup I hope this trade goes through, especially if Sergio Rodriguez gets traded. I've kind of been pulling for Conely Jr, and if he can help motivate Oden into playing better (although he's not playing too shabby) all the better. I just find it hard to believe that a childhood friendship could be a motivating factor in a major trade.

However, if Sergio Rodriguez can parlay this trade into a 30 minutes per game role, well call me giddy. I'm not ashamed (or alone) to state that I am a member of the "Free Sergio" campaign. I imagine it will look something like the Kings teams circa 2000. A lineup of Rodriguez-Mayo-Gay-Outlaw-Gasol would absolutely just fly up and down the court, and i also imagine that jaw-dropping dunks would flow like water on a rainy day.

 

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One other question or two about this trade comes to mind. If there is validity to this trade and I think there may be, does this mean that Warrick and Crittendon are available? It would appear that if there arent minutes at the 3/4 for Outlaw, then there will not be any for Hakeem Warrick. Crittendon available again already? Is he a problem child? Is he very raw? Does he just not ‘get it’ yet?

Is either of these worth the Sam Cassell or POB salary slot to us? I’m thinking Warrick would fit in our bench nicely as a Scalabrine understudy.

"First fix their hearts"-Eizo Shimabuku

by billysan on Nov 30, 2008 6:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Offensively we don’t have a player like Warrick. he’s a leaper that can get up and down the court and can even shoot a little, not much of a post game. However defensively Warrick is redundant on our squad with leon powe. Despite the offensive benefits, we’re a defensive team, and I just don’t think we need Warrick that much.

Crittenden was stuck behind two good pg’s in Conely and Lowery, but you’d think he’d get some minutes, if only at the two. something is up there.

The griz don’t need to include him for salary, it works without him, so you have to think this is a dump.

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by indeedproceed on Nov 30, 2008 6:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2008/nov/30/griz-blazers-talking/
[quote]The Grizzlies and Trail Blazers have held ongoing discussions about a trade that would essentially swap Mike Conley for Travis Outlaw, reported Yahoo over the weekend.

Those discussions, which began during the summer, continued through the first week of the season and have been dead for the past month, according to Ronald Tillery of the Commercial Appeal.

At one point, Memphis was willing to include Hakim Warrick and asked for Steve Blake, but the Blazers countered with Sergio Rodriguez, who is not a fit in the eyes of the Grizzlies’ front office.

A team source said the Grizzlies don’t have any trade talks ongoing at this point. The source predicted that the roster would remain the same for a while, and didn’t anticipate any substantive talks before Feb. 1.[/quote]

by LarBrd33 on Dec 1, 2008 2:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Reasons are not good enough.

It’s basically a swap where the Blazers get younger, not sure if they need to.

If Oden needed a friend, Josh McRoberts wouldn’t have been traded to Indiana.

Rodriguez and Rudy Fernandez really have a connection, with sick alley-oops almost every game. I can’t see them being broken up.

Koponen - PG of the future. For Italy, that is. Book it.

by Blazerholic on Dec 1, 2008 3:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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by Ref110 on Dec 4, 2008 10:42 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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