Green Eyed Thoughts On The Trade
Allen Iverson is coming back to the Eastern Conference to play with the Pistons. I could care less what the Nuggets do. They aren't likely coming out of the West for a while. The Pistons are another matter. We knew Dumars wanted to reload, but who knew that they would make a move this early in the season?
I consider this mostly a move for the future, opening up a ton of cap room for either a run at LeBron (with Rip, Stuckey, Amir, and Maxiell already in place) or perhaps another blockbuster trade at the deadline (AI and Sheed have expiring deals). So in a couple of years, this team could be right back to title contention, which is why Dumars is one of the best in the business. (For more from the Detroit perspective, see Detroit Bad Boys)
However, you can't ignore the potential impact this deal could have on the present. I think Billups is a great player and perfect for that system he knows so well. So from that perspective, anyone short of LeBron would be an initial step back. However, even if he's getting older, Allen Iverson is still AI. He's still one of the hardest working guys on the floor and he still gets his shot off anytime he wants. Does he make the Pistons a better team? Can he play defense? We'll see, but I don't think he puts them over the top regardless.
So that's good news for us. If you put our window (with the current group) at 2 more years, then the Pistons have potentially taken a step back this year and might just take another year to regroup before landing a big fish.
Of course this also raises the question in some people's mind. Do the Celtics keep all of their "sacred cows" (as Dumars might say)? Ainge famously urged Red to trade McHale and Bird when they were the broken down Big 3. I don't think anyone would be surprised to see him do the same with at least Ray Allen. On the other hand, I get the feeling that Wyc and the owners would be very reluctant to trade any of the Big 3. So if nothing else, that becomes an interesting situation to monitor over the next couple of trade deadlines and offseasons.
Back to the immediate future, we get to see our first glimpse of the AI era on Sunday. If nothing else, it should be entertaining to watch Rondo chase him around on defense (and perhaps blow past him on offense).
So what do you think about the trade? Does it make the Pistons better right now? Do they have a good shot at landing LeBron? Who will win the game on Sunday?
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sorry, I just noticed that Steve has an article on the trade coming up later today – so we’ll be talking about this for a while today – but at least we’ve got a game thread coming soon too
by Jeff Clark on Nov 4, 2008 9:09 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think it makes them better this year because they now have an individual scorer that you have to worry about. Good team defenses took care of them the past few years because you didn’t have to plan for any individual player. Billups, Sheed, etc, are all nice offensively but they’re not people who could take over a game. AI can. Good team defenses always took care of Detroit. Cleveland, Boston and San Antonio for example.
Best part about this deal is that even if it doesn’t work out, they’re set up for years to come.
by Gino on Nov 4, 2008 10:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I see this as a a business decision. Iverson comes off the books after this season and that gives them 20 million in the free agent market. They need a big to replace Wallace and Chris Bosh is going to be a free agent. I see them offering him the max and doing whatever they can to get him.
Perk and Powe... the Next Big Thing
by FLCeltsFan on Nov 4, 2008 10:49 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
we keep talking about the LeBron/Wade/Bosh free agent year
but keep in mind, all those guys are still under contract till their option year, which isn’t till the summer of 2010 – so not next year, but the year after
if the Pistons hold onto their cap for a run at LeBron, they’ll have to sign only short term guys for next season to field a team
by Jeff Clark on Nov 4, 2008 11:03 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Like this trade for the Pistons
I was so surprised to see that Dumars had broken up the “core four” guys on the Pistons. I think this is a great move though – they still have potential to contend this year, and in a couple years, they will be even better.
by TheBetterFaulk on Nov 4, 2008 11:17 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Feelin' bad for Billups
I’ve long felt like Chauncey was the anchor for this Detroit squad. He and McDyess were the reasons I respected the Pistons more than loathed them (thanks ’sheed, Rip).
My feeling is that this will be more disruptive than Dumars anticipated, at least until he’s able to reset a stable starting five. Don’t see that happening in the near term.
On the other hand, I’m now intrigued to see what impact Billups has on the Nuggets (hope it is not the other way around!).
by Thruthelookingglass on Nov 4, 2008 12:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Practice
Have fun practicing with the Pistons, Allen.
by The Real Large James 2 on Nov 4, 2008 1:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Denver
Not sure why you feel Denver can’t make the playoffs. I think now that they have a real PH like Billups they will make it just like they have for the last few years.
by NoraG1 on Nov 4, 2008 2:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i like the trade for both teams. and i like what gino said. ai is a good fit for now and now only and the pistons remain a force. denver has a team player stud homeboy who brings some stability to both sides -o and d.
by nazzbo on Nov 4, 2008 4:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I just don’t think AI will fit in. Piston might be good in the future when they clear the cap space though.
by NoraG1 on Nov 5, 2008 1:38 AM EST reply actions 0 recs



























