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How Good Can Rondo Be?

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Last year Rondo made the leap from "rookie" to "talented young player on a Championship squad."  How much better can he get this year?  How about over the course of his career?

Through 5 games, he's averaged 8.8 points and 6.8 assists.  (stats)  He's one of the best rebounding point guards in the game and the offense clearly runs smoother with him in the game than not.  But as we've seen documented a billion times already, he struggles with his outside shooting and free throw percentage.  Plus he can be a bit streaky with his game. 

So how good do you think he can be?  Use the poll to react and discuss below in the comments.

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How good can Rondo be?
Average starter
76 votes
Above average starter
481 votes
All Star sometime in the future
1159 votes
All Star this year
160 votes

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who are the other East Point Guards?

Billups is out of the East now, but will Allen Iverson be considered a point now?

Calderon is having a good start to the year

Mo Williams? Ramon Sessions? Andre Miller?

by Jeff Clark on Nov 6, 2008 2:14 PM EST reply actions  

It’s a fairly poor group of potential all-stars isn’t it?

I think the Celtics would need to be on a record pace win rate to get that fourth All-Star. Rondo would need to be playing more than 29 minutes too.

We must be forgetting somebody?

Atlanta – Mike Bibby
Boston – Rajon Rondo
Charlotte – Raymond Felton
Cleveland – Mo Williams
Chicago – Derrick Rose + Kirk Hinrich
Detroit – Allen Iverson
Indiana – TJ Ford
Miami – Mario Chalmers
Milwaukee – Luke Ridnour
New York – Chris Duhon
New Jersey – Devin Harris
Orlando – Jameer Nelson
Philadelphia – Andre Miller
Toronto – Jose Calderon
Washington – Gilbert Arenas

Iverson is assured a spot. Hopefully Arenas can make it back healthy in time and get selected. If Arenas can’t …. I think TJ Ford is my favourite. He’ll get a lot of the credit for Indiana. Should be close between him and Calderon though. Phily’s other two (Iggy+Brand) will get credit before Andre Miller so I don’t think he has a shot, Phily won’t be good enough to get three all-stars.

Rondo isn’t that far off from being an All-Star point in the East.

by Who on Nov 6, 2008 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

nah

he’ll never be an all star. He’ll be an effective starter, but never reach that level. Bank on Derrick Rose making several allstar teams before Rondo even gets considered for one.

by LarBrd33 on Nov 6, 2008 2:19 PM EST reply actions  

He can be...

It’s all subjective, I believe can be as good as Doc Rivers, Dennis Johnson, Mark Jackson, etc…

I honestly believe that he can achieve a quadruple double before his career is over. Maybe more than once.

He will still get better, he is far from his peak.

by afflatus on Nov 6, 2008 2:25 PM EST reply actions  

It starts with defense

as with anything on this team. The problem is, in a discussion about All-Star games defense doesn’t really matter much. He’s just not going to have the stats this year (maybe down the line). I’m more curious to see if Rondo (and Pierce, as a sidebar) will make all-defense. Assuming he keeps up his current level, I think he should. I mean is there a better defensive lead guard in the league? No one is jumping out at me at the moment.

by Berkcelt on Nov 6, 2008 2:26 PM EST reply actions  

All Star

If he can make enough steals to start some exciting fast breaks and finish with a few eye popping dunks, he’ll make SportsCenter often enough that he’ll get voted into an All-Star team at some point in his career.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Nov 6, 2008 2:55 PM EST reply actions  

He will be as good as his jumpshot allows him to be. With a reliable jumpshot he’s an all-star. Without it, he’s just another good helter skelter guard.

by Brickowski on Nov 6, 2008 4:06 PM EST reply actions  

More scoring needed...

When Rondo improves his scoring he’s their. It’s pretty clear to me that he’s going to be a 7-8 assist player, and he’ll grab 3-4 boards a night, but the scoring is all that’s holding him back. He needs to improve his finishing around the rim, and get his free throw percentage to at least the lower/mid 70% range. If he does those two things he’s probably got 7-8 extra points a game. With 7-8 extra points your probably looking at 18pts, 7assists, 4rebs, and a steal. I’m trying not be get carried away like some people… *cough**cough*NIck*cough*

He’ll probably be a coaches choice All-star, because Dynamic scoring guards will almost always get votes before true points.

Rondo doesn't believe in easy buckets...

by ManUp on Nov 6, 2008 4:19 PM EST reply actions  

rondo really is a great point guard. this year, he is really missing free throws which makes you want to avoid him where foul shots matter. if don chaney can learn to shoot, so can rondo who works very hard. all star to be and a celtic lifer.

by nazzbo on Nov 6, 2008 4:40 PM EST reply actions  

i'd say...

…that rondo could have an all star season or even a small handful of them…
he reminds me of the guy who came in at the end of the year to back him up.

he doesn’t play the same way as sam cassell, but he is always going to be able to cut you up pretty bad on any given night. he is the type of guy that can get in a rhythm and really start to hurt you. he would do best to try and get 10+ assists, he would really flourish if he could make that happen.

by stingy d on Nov 6, 2008 4:47 PM EST reply actions  

but ultimately--

he is just an above average starter

by stingy d on Nov 6, 2008 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Tommy Says

Tommy said last night on the pre-game show that he has the potential to become a future hall of famer. Normally, when someone of Tommy’s stature says something like that, I take notice. But Tommy can be known to get a little overzealous when talking about his Cs.

The reason why Tommy is loves Rondo so much is that Rondo plays like a “true point guard.” Perhaps he reminds him of Cousy a little bit. Stats, and especially scoring just matters too much these days for Rondo to be a future HOFer. Unless of course he learns to shoot. An All-Star appearance in his future? Probably.

by Toine43 on Nov 6, 2008 5:42 PM EST reply actions  

Shooting

He can’t shoot at all, period. If he works of his shot then he can be an all star.

by Champzilla on Nov 6, 2008 5:42 PM EST reply actions  

Play him more Doc

In watching Rondo this year I believe he will be a future all-star. Doc really needs to play him more. The Houston game he was on a roll in the first quater. Doc takes him out, he sits half of the second period and when he comes back in he is out sync and didnt play well. Play the man 40 minutes a game and his learning curve will shorten dramatically and it will benefit the team. He is young he can handle it.

by FatjohnReturns on Nov 6, 2008 7:10 PM EST reply actions  

While we’re at it, why not play him 50 minutes a game? It’s not like he has to rest, really.

by kozlodoev on Nov 6, 2008 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

40 minutes is a too much, but...

Rondo should definitely get more minutes. He’s young so 35 minutes wouldn’t wear him out the way it would an older player. 40 minutes is a bit too much.

Rondo doesn't believe in easy buckets...

by ManUp on Nov 6, 2008 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Jumpshot, jumpshot, jumpshot

Rondo had to develop a reliable jumper and be consistant from the line. He’s a loooong way from all star right now.

by LuckyNumber07 on Nov 6, 2008 8:37 PM EST reply actions  

Reaching all star caliber level this year and upcoming years might be harder than some people think. You have to look at the competition at that position. For this year I expect Calderon to have a fantastic year, Andre Miller will be very solid, you have Iverson in the east for at least this year (could be considered a PG for the all star game), Devin Harris will probably put up better numbers, TJ Ford is off to a very good start, Mo Williams is an excellent scoring PG, Arenas when healthy is an all star, and you have the number 1 overall pick in Rose. Then you have to factor in other up and comers for future years like Stuckey who everyone raves about, maybe Augistin, and Lou Williams and who knows if someone like Brandon Jennings will get drafted in the eastern conference. Rondo has it in im to be an all star but it won’t be easy. My prediction for all stars at the PG position in the east are Calderon, Iverson, and Andre Miller.

by JBcat on Nov 6, 2008 9:03 PM EST reply actions  

I was watching the Rockets broadcast when the C’s played Houston … Clyde Drexler said that he considered Rondo to be an All-Star caliber now, and is someone who doesn’t get the recognition he deserves.

by Who on Nov 6, 2008 9:27 PM EST reply actions  

rondos minutes

Kozlodoev i dont know what your talking about when Tony Parker is 38.8 mpg, Chris Paul 37.8, and Jose Calderon 38.8 Why cant Rondo average around 39. If he did he would be more consistent and the team would benefit.

by FatjohnReturns on Nov 6, 2008 10:14 PM EST reply actions  

38 is not 40. And Rondo is at the level of any of those players, really.

However, the real reason why he can’t be held on the court that long is that he is shooting 50% from the FT line this season, and is habitually passing open jumpers, which hurts the team.

by kozlodoev on Nov 6, 2008 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Rondo

Funny thing is I just posted this questions last night of how good can this kid be? I agree with most people so far esp manup. Shooting, simply put Rondo can’t. I mean obviously he’s in the NBA so he can shoot but not like you need to in order to be a top tier guard. I look at what Chris Paul and Derek Rose bring to the table (Only a week worth of games for Rose) and see their potential and then I look at Rondo. I just don’t see it. I think Pruitt has more scoring ability but lacks the intangibles Rondo brings to the table ie. Speed, trust, defense and well I guess hands! Put those two together and you have a potential all star. Perhaps that is what Danny has in mind? Thoughts?

by richardlight on Nov 6, 2008 11:46 PM EST reply actions  

until he masters the art of making jumpshots...

…that’s when he can be an allstar, imo. that’s the most disappointing thing on rondo this year, he seems didn’t get to work on it and didn’t improve his j’s. he’s exactly where he is like last year, just a setup man who drives and draws defenders so he could kickout to open men. don’t get me wrong, it’s great to have a pass first pg but when things get tight and the opponents locked on our best shooters, rondo gets stuck with the ball and doesn’t even want to take the jumper… til then, he’s just a lil above average.

by jaimsitecom on Nov 7, 2008 2:58 AM EST reply actions  

jumpshots

See I thought or rumor had it that he worked on his J in the off season? That didn’t happen obviously! He still misses those floaters he likes and layups as well. Disappointing to be honest.

by richardlight on Nov 7, 2008 7:14 AM EST reply actions  

Well....I kind of disagree

  He actually shot better last year then this from what I’ve been able to see on TV. So, I am afraid its a mental problem rather then a physical – especially on the free throws. I’ve said before in these forums that PP is going the same route. Used to be a excellent free throw shooter, now is blah. Its was/been a career long mental problem for guys like Wilt (who was a decent 3 point shooter) and Shaq. Free throws are not a physical thing, if you’ve watched young girls and handicapped peeps shoot them very nicely. And you can shoot 200 free throws every day in practice and with a mental problem, still can’t make them in a game.

by Dipper on Nov 7, 2008 7:26 AM EST reply actions  

Rondo's all star status

I agree with Nick. When Rondo increases his free throw percentageand developes a reliable jump shot he will be able to do it all (and he will acquire them this year).

by thirstyboots18 on Nov 7, 2008 10:01 AM EST reply actions  

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