Ring Around The Posey
I know the topic of "will we miss James Posey?" has been beaten to death this year. However, I just cannot let his return and ring presentation go without mention. So once more, lets address this topic. Personally, I find my answer depends on how you ask the question.
Do I miss James Posey personally?
Yes. Yes I do. All reports indicate he was a popular player in the locker room. His extended man-hug pep-talks were inspirational even from afar. He was a veteran who had Championship experience and could speak with authority on the subject of "what it takes to get a ring."
Everyone understands by now that he was one of those "intangibles" kinds of guys that did more than what showed up on the box score. Part of what he did was to be That Guy that gets under the skin of opponents with a well placed elbow or hip check. You know, the kind of guy you hate when he's on the other team. (You have to wonder if he'll try something to get Perkins T'd up or if he would save something like that only for the playoffs.)
Posey was also one of the key ingredients to installing Tom Thibodeau's defense. To get a defense to work, you need buy-in from the players. KG was always going to be a defender. Pierce and Allen bought into it because they saw the opportunity to win. But it was Posey that brought that Championship swagger and took on a leadership defensive role with the bench.
And who could forget his timely 3 pointers? It wasn't just the points. It was the dramatic effect of his timing. Just when the opponent was making a run, bang, run over. Just when the C's offense was starting to sputter, bang, rebooted. Gave me giggle fits whenever he delivered the dagger.
Yes, there's a lot that I miss personally from watching him play.
Does the current team miss him?
From a bottom line perspective, no. Not at all. They officially have bettered their record from a year ago. They have not taken any steps back in terms of defense, which had to be the primary concern. The offense has been up and down, but Posey seldom brought more than those timely 3's to the table.
Tony Allen has stepped up his game tremendously. He adds a dimension of driving to the hoop that the team didn't have much of last year. Leon Powe has become a steady rotation player, and a more traditional power forward than Posey was when filling in there. Nobody is going to say that Scal makes a big difference, but he's been solid for the most part when called upon. And finally, as I mentioned before, Ray Allen's resurgence has given the team plenty of timely 3 point shooting.
Even without Posey, there is a lot of consistency on the roster from their title year. They all know what to expect from each other and they could very well end up being a better team than they were last year.
Will the team miss him come playoff time?
There's the rub. We just won't know till we get there.
Do I trust Tony Allen to give a consistent, error-free performance in a close playoff series? If Paul gets into foul trouble, are we really going to look to Scalabrine? Or will we go to a small-ball lineup and hope for the best?
What other "little things" did Posey do last year that we might miss out on this year?
Who will play the role of bad guy to the other team? Posey wasn't just a guy that instigated. When things got chippy, he took the brunt of the abuse and laughed it off with a sly grin. Can we assume that Perkins will be able to do the same? How about KG? What happens if things get a little nutty and KG does something to get suspended? These are the things that you just don't know.
Of course, you can only take that so far. Who knows what tomorrow might bring? Injuries, odd matchups, and plain bad luck are other things you can't plan for. You just have to overcome like Champions.
So, do we miss James Posey? Yes and no, ...and maybe. It will be great seeing him tonight and I'll be forever thankful for his contributions to the team last year (many of which set precidents that have carried over into this year). He's a Champion and he'll always be remembered fondly.
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I really thought much of the year last year that Posey was the difference maker between champion and coming close. It wasn’t so much his stat line as it was his presence. This year’s team however I believe is better than last for these five reasons: (1) The team is used to playing together in all situations. They’ve been there and done that; (2) Ray is healthy. He looks so much better this year. He adds more energy and consistency; (3) The second unit has matured and is a true second unit. Last year it was Posey, House and whomever playing together. This year these guys play together like they play in practice. They’re not strangers; (4) Rondo and Perk’s play has improved. The only question mark now is whether Perk’s shoulder can hold up; (5) Confidence. They have won it all, they are champions, and they know how to get it done. They know how to find a way.
I think the only team where Posey will be missed against is Cleveland. King James is going to be tough. PJ and Sam’s contributions to me are far too overrated. We also don’t have to watch Doc using the so-called ‘small’ lineup with KG at the five. While there were times it worked, KG was much of the time out of position.
Posey was great, but I like this team better.
by amenhotep04 on Dec 12, 2008 10:57 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think the loss of Posey and how it affects guarding someone like LeBron has been a bit overrated. Posey, in the beginning of the series, was stellar against LeBron. As the series went on, it was quite evident that Posey was being overmatched by LeBron. I remember people calling out Doc in game 7 when they put Posey on James instead of keeping Pierce on him. Then we consider how Kobe did what he wanted with Posey on him, and you have to think that from that perspective Posey is not going to be missed much.
Posey is a great defender, but I’m bit tired of the whole “how are we going to guard LeBron or Kobe without Posey” dilemma.
by BudweiserCeltic on Dec 12, 2008 11:14 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
It always amazes me
when smart, such as Hollinger, claim that the Cs are going to miss Posey against the Cavs and Lakers. Posey was terrible against Kobe last year; couldn’t keep him in front of him. Posey was better against LeBron, but really only for the first two games in that series. After that, Pierce was the only one who could keep up with him.
by Ersatz on Dec 12, 2008 1:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hollinger has West coast roots.
I’m sure that’s pretty much him hoping that Posey will be missed rather than knowing. No one knows anything for sure. The only thing we do know is Boston is 21-2 without Posey. So IMO the ’ Posey will be missed ’ crowd are more pessimistic rather than realistic. Facts seem to say otherwise but, I get the whole let’s be concerned rather than surprised way of looking at things. It’s sort of lightens the blow if the C’s do indeed get knocked out of the playoffs. More than likely though it will be due a multitude of issues but, will be blamed on Posey not resigning and Ainge going cheap…
Hollinger had the Lakers in 5 last year….
Tony Allen > Dearly departed JP
by Birdbrain on Dec 12, 2008 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Team Defender
Posey is much better as a team defender than one on one. That’s his value vs LeBron and Kobe. One on one vs those guys he’ll wear them out a bit, but they will bet by him. Pierce defends those two much better.
by TrueGreen on Dec 13, 2008 9:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m happy Posey will be getting a ring and then he can watch and admire the team he should have stayed with instead of taking an extra .5 million… Sorry the love fest is bit much.
Tony Allen > Dearly departed JP
by Birdbrain on Dec 12, 2008 11:25 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
more like $7 million
"Would I rather be feared or loved? Easy. Both. I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." Michael Scott
by Jeff Clark on Dec 12, 2008 11:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I meant per year and the 4th year still wouldn’t have swayed me. I think I could somehow survive.
Tony Allen > Dearly departed JP
by Birdbrain on Dec 12, 2008 11:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so you want him to give up $7 million?
I don’t blame Danny for not giving him the extra year and I don’t blame him for taking the money. It is what it is. But I still miss the guy.
"Would I rather be feared or loved? Easy. Both. I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." Michael Scott
by Jeff Clark on Dec 12, 2008 11:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know some people look at things differently.
I just don’t think that would have been enough money to make me leave a team that has a good chance a repeating. To each his own. I’ll be rooting against him tonight.
Tony Allen > Dearly departed JP
by Birdbrain on Dec 12, 2008 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I Disagree
I think Posey would have been invaluable against LBJ come playoff time. TA may be OK against Kobe, but LBJ is too darn big for him. And I’d prefer Posey over TA against Kobe too, though TA may do the job.
That doesn’t mean I’d have given Posey extra years just to have him there for the 7 playoff games against Cleveland, but that series worries me.
In the NBA stratosphere where the Cs are, having a player on the roster just for the Cleveland and LA serieses is justifiable, IMHO. It could make all the difference. We need a genuine big who can shoot for both serieses too, IMHO.
"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark
by Eeyore III on Dec 12, 2008 11:27 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Poseys ring
We will give Posey a standing ovation, present the ring with hugs and kisses. After that it is over.
If you dont wear Celtic green, you are the bad guys.
by CfanMissippi on Dec 12, 2008 12:15 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
hear, hear
When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"
by Green17 on Dec 12, 2008 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree
with Eeyore’s assessment of Posey’s matchups with LBJ and Kobe. I disagree however and feel we should have given him the contract. We will miss him big time in the playoffs. TAllen is lost sometimes. We let the soul of the bench and crunch time go and it will bite us in the arse come playoffs.
by The Real Large James 2 on Dec 12, 2008 12:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Real Large James 2 is right, but it’s too soon to tell how things will be by playoff time. Comparing the positives to the negatives, I think the Celts should have matched the offer.I can’t think of anyone available as a pickup that would be an upgrade over the current reserve squad. TA hasn’t impressed me as a game-changer, which JP is…
by nba is the worst on Dec 12, 2008 12:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i’m all poseyed out. good for him-good for us. i hope he has a bad game tonite, but i will always root for the guy—he is a real pro.
by nazzbo on Dec 12, 2008 1:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
TA's Better
I love Posey but I think TA is better for this team (slasher vs. another shooter). Posey was starting to slip on his defense and TA generates more steals and defections with his defense than Pose does. I think TA can make LBJ a jump shooter better then Posey could given his quickness. LBJ shooting jumpers with what we want to see come playoff time.
by IowaGuy on Dec 12, 2008 2:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If Posey is giving half-court hugs before the game starts, it would be hilarious if our starters went over and got hugs from him too.
by BudweiserCeltic on Dec 12, 2008 6:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Rings ....
I’ll cheer Posey during the Ring ceremony. I hope he recalls how special it was in Celtic-land last year … and realizes what he’s missing this year! Then it’s Go Celtics .. beat Posey and the Hornets!
So I believe that it’s only PJ Brown who still has to receive his ring, and maybe, Walter Norton, Jr (the other fitness & conditioning coach)? Does anyone know why Norton is no longer with the Celtics???
by TheGreenThumb on Dec 12, 2008 6:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If We Signed Pose
If we signed Pose we wouldn’t have been able to sign TA and House who have been big for us so far this year. A group of players can give us what Pose gave us on the floor. The difference is what he gave us off the floor. But I don’t think we need that as much this year as last. I love the way Pose plays (hard all the time), but I think Danny did the right thing.
by TrueGreen on Dec 13, 2008 9:23 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

























