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Confused By the Desires For Pargo

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The interest around the NBA in Jannero Pargo confuses me. 

It was hard to understand when there was talk of the Hornets making efforts to re-sign him in the summer.  Or when other teams around the league showed some desire.  Or most especially when his name appeared next to the words "Boston Celtics" occasionally during the off-season.

Currently playing for Dynamo Moscow in Russia, the six year NBA vet has his name back in the news.  The Arizona Republic's Paul Coro reports that both the Suns and Knicks have expressed interest in bringing Pargo back across to the states if he can get out of his contract overseas.

I don't understand the allure.

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Yes, the 6-1 guard from Arkansas can score in bunches.  He came off the bench to put up at least 20 points five times last season, and he added another 21 double-digit scoring efforts for the year.  There is, however, a simple explanation for Pargo's penchant for the occasional volume scoring explosion: This guy takes a lot of shots.  Several.  Many.  Quite a few. 

The problem is that he doesn't hit a lot of those shots.  Pargo averaged more than eight field-goal attempts in less than 20 minutes per game last season (15.7 per 36 minutes), and he hit less than 40 percent of them.  He also only knocked down 34.9 percent of his three-pointers, helping him to a true shooting mark of 46.8 percent.  As ATH from At the Hive points out via this link, among guards who qualified for the scoring title last season, Pargo ranked dead last in true shooting, nearly two full percentage points behind Marquis Daniels at 48.7.  This was no aberration either: Pargo has hit the 50 percent true shooting mark just once in his six seasons in the league (50.4 in 2006-07), and he is a 47.8 percent true shooter for his career.  This is a bona fide chucker.

A season ago, Pargo had a usage rate of 24.2, which indicates that he was responsible for nearly a quarter of the Hornets' possessions (field-goal attempts, assists and turnovers are the three primary factors in usage rate, though they are weighted differently) that came while he was on the court.  To put this in perspective, consider the following list of players (among others) who had equivalent or lesser usage rates last season: Dwight Howard, Chauncey Billups, Deron Williams, Stephen Jackson, Devin Harris.  Gulp.  Jannero Pargo absolutely dominates the ball when he is on the floor, mostly for the purpose of heaving it toward the basket.

Pargo isn't a great passer.  He gives you little on the boards, and he isn't the world's most stout defender (although ATH gives him more credit here than I do).  Opposing two-guards put up an effective field-goal mark of 52.5 percent against Pargo last year, and the team was roughly even defensively with him on the floor and off it. 

So it's hard to understand what the interested teams in this league see in him.  The Suns have committed to staying efficient offensively and trying to improve at the defensive end.  Not sure how Pargo would fit into that plan at either side of the floor.  As for the Knicks, they already have enough freewheeling going on.  Adding Pargo to the mix of a frenetic offense that is still just 19th in efficiency would only seem to add to the problems.  Again, firepower isn't the issue there. 

That Pargo is supposedly a good dude is definitely a plus, and as an Eddie House fan, I understand the comment about ATH and his fellow Hornets fans enjoying the wild Pargo gunning.  But therein lies the key: There are plenty of players in this league who like to shoot the basketball.  The vast majority of them (House included), put it in the basket with far greater accuracy than Jannero Pargo does.  This makes signing the diminutive guard appear a questionable proposition at best.

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He was the only reason the hornets beat us last year

by TheAncientRivalry on Dec 14, 2008 1:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I acknowledge that the guy is capable of exploding in any given game

but considering his results across the board, I’d maintain that he likely hurts at least as much as he helps.

-sw

Manuel Aristides Ramirez is the greatest hitter I've ever seen.

by Steve Weinman on Dec 14, 2008 1:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And he was also a big reason

…the Spurs beat the Hornets in the play-offs. I’m okay with gunners, I’m okay with inconsistent and streaky gunners, but Pargo is also absolutely conscienceless. He’ll win you a game today but singlehandedly lose you the following two. This isn’t a guy you can depend on to win consistently. You have to have other options in order to allow you to keep him in a very short-leash. Couldn’t agree more with the article.

As a side note, nice to see the Russian billionaires having problems with the cash-flow. Their craziness was driving the European basketball to ruin.

by cordobes on Dec 14, 2008 1:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The difference between the Hornets offensive efficiency with and without Chris Paul on the floor

07-08 – a 15.4 points per 100 possession difference
08-09 – a 33.7 points per 100 possession difference

That’s Jannero Pargo that they’re missing. Without Pargo, the Hornets now have only one player on their roster who can beat his man off the dribble and force the defense to react. Their offense already had major issues with their reliance on Chris Paul, without Pargo around that reliance has gone through the roof. The Hornets also miss his passing and playmaking, as well as his scoring. On top of that he’s an above average defender.

by Who on Dec 14, 2008 1:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm not suggesting that it wouldn't have been a good idea to replace him this offseason,

but there are others players in this league who can attack the rim and throw it up. Among qualified guards last season, every one of those players did so with more efficiency than Pargo did. That seems like a problem to me.

-sw

Manuel Aristides Ramirez is the greatest hitter I've ever seen.

by Steve Weinman on Dec 14, 2008 1:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

There’s more to the game than shooting efficiency. One shouldn’t focus in on one issue and discount the rest of his contributions.

Make a list of backup point guards in this league who can penetrate as well as Pargo can, and have a comparable skill set overall. How many of those players are there in the league? How many of those players on your list are on rookie contracts? How many of those players were acquirable?

by Who on Dec 14, 2008 1:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

As far as penetrating as well as Pargo...

… Daniels is an obvious answer. And he can actually finish at the rim. Pargo is certainly a far better shooter and defender. But he’s not reliable. I’d take the uber-over-reliance on Paul over the slightest reliance on Pargo.

A scoring guard NO could have added for cheap… Roger Mason, for example. But they let Pargo walk mostly because they wanted to offer the entire MLE to Posey without going over the luxury tax. I think it makes sense.

by cordobes on Dec 14, 2008 7:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Both are different type of player. Pargo’s assist rate is almost double Roger Mason’s for the last couple of years. Mason is more of a jump shooter than Pargo also, he doesn’t make the defense react to the threat he provides off the dribble. The differences between Daniels and Pargo are straight forward.

Mason would have been an excellent replacement but he’s a different type of player who’s main strength is his shooting efficiency.

I’m not sure Daniels adds much to New Orleans. I’m looking forward to seeing how he fits in down there, and how much he has left in the tank after a poor start to the season (partially or totally due to injuries?)

Pargo may not be your type of player but he clearly adds value to a basketball team.

by Who on Dec 14, 2008 7:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, he adds value, agreed. He’d be a good acquisition for a team like Phoenix that already have Barbosa and Dragic (terrible at the point, as I suspected) to play in the guard rotation and plenty of scoring. As a 6th/7th man, as the primary guard back-up, he’s not a very good option, IMO.

by cordobes on Dec 15, 2008 11:25 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry my point may have been unclear – Pargo brings a set of skills to the table that can help teams, and those skills are not easy to acquire in a backup point guard. The majority of the players that can bring his skills to the table are on rookie contracts.

In other words, replacing Pargo with a comparable version of him except that they shoot a good percentage from the field is difficult.

There are of course other types of backup point guards and they have their own relative strengths and value.

by Who on Dec 14, 2008 7:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's why

They traded for Daniels. They know they miss Pargo’s contributions.

by Bankshot on Dec 14, 2008 2:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He's a Big Game Player

Pargo has immense value because he’s not afraid to take and hit big shots late in the 4th quarter, especially come playoff time. He’s come up big with the Bulls (in 05’ playoffs he averaged 10 ppg in 15 mins a game!) and last season with the Hornets in the playoffs (10 ppg in 20 mins a game). Some players (Eddie House comes to mind) can shoot it great when they’re up 10 or more, and some players get better when the game’s in doubt. Pargo’s that player, and that’s why he’s coveted. He’s clutch.

by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Dec 14, 2008 2:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

the hornets were sure missing offense from their second team the other night.

by nazzbo on Dec 14, 2008 3:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Teams interested in him

Probably saw his 30 point explosion against Dallas last year in the playoffs on 12/20 shooting (4/7 3pt, 2/2 ft).

I agree that you can’t only talk about a guy’s shooting efficiency. There are plenty of intangibles already mentioned that he provides. It is often that a 2nd line needs a guy who has the willingness and capability to provide an offensive spark off the bench like a Tony Allen or my previous favorite Troy Hudson. Pargo is that type of player

by action781 on Dec 14, 2008 3:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Did not know his shooting percentages were that low. All I remember is a guy who feasted on us last year. Maybe that was why Danny was intrigued, although that is not how to evaluate a guy for sure.

by footey on Dec 14, 2008 4:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He’s eddie house with better ball handling skills

by TheAncientRivalry on Dec 14, 2008 4:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He was basically the only Hornets player who didn’t choke in the game 7 loss against the Spurs in game 7 last season. He almost got them back in front…

by nba is the worst on Dec 14, 2008 4:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Of course..

At some point, he was the only one shooting. The other guys didn’t have a chance to get them back in front.

Pargo shot 17/61 in that series.

by cordobes on Dec 14, 2008 7:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Redundant?

He seems somewhat redundant for the Celtics with Eddie House in town. If we needed the shoooting from the PG backup slot, why not use Gabe Pruitt? I guess Pargo might be an upgrade over Coach Sam, otherwise I dont see a job for him here.

"First fix their hearts"-Eizo Shimabuku

by billysan on Dec 14, 2008 6:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Obviously

we dont need him here, we got eddie

by TheAncientRivalry on Dec 14, 2008 6:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Pargo's biggest games last year

Seemed to be nationally televised… ie: Dallas and Spurs game 7. Y’all missed the 45 out of 90 games Hornets fans were freaking out over Pargo’s jacking up shots early in the shot clock. (Is there anyone who keeps a stat on that? Geez. He was ridiculous at times.) Did I like Pargo? Yes. But I do think there’s a tendency to overrate him by other teams’ fans who didn’t watch him enough last year. “Oh! Let’s get that guy who put up 30 points in those Hornets playoff losses! Now that guy was a spark!”

Antonio Daniels already looked solid with the second unit yesterday against the Raptors. The problem with shoot first guys like Pargo and James, for the Hornets, is how do you adjust to your backup point guard having a VASTLY different style than Chris Paul? Especially if you’re mixing guys up in practice and substituting different guys in the lineup. I think Daniels will be a better fit for the Hornets, just in terms of maintaining the “status quo” when CP is off the floor.

Pargo was good for the Hornets last year, though he had his issues, and it turned out keeping James and not pursuing him was the wrong idea. He can definitely help someone’s team. Certainly wouldn’t have beaten the Celtics in New Orleans without him.

http://hornetshype.com

by ticktock6 on Dec 15, 2008 1:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Who does he remind me of??

Hmmmm……….maybe a poor man’s Sam Cassell!

by nickagneta on Dec 16, 2008 9:22 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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