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Deja Vu - Playoff Type Win


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Just like the first round of the playoffs, the athletic Hawks chased down offensive rebounds, got out on the break, and played aggressive defense all night long.  The Celtics, however, were up to the task and put the game away with some clutch plays in the final minutes.

  • Remember when the knock on KG was that he wasn't clutch?  Yeah.
  • Much respect due to the Hawks.  Great effort all night.
  • Bench was quiet once again.  Then again, so was theirs.
  • No shots were falling for Ray from outside (1-8)

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Boston
 Starters Min FG 3Pt FT +/- Off Reb Ast TO Stl BS BA PF Pts 
  R. Allen G 42:54 5-15 1-8 5-5 +4 2 5 2 2 1 0 0 3 16 
  R. Rondo G 36:31 7-12 0-1 1-2 +9 2 6 7 3 4 0 1 2 15 
  K. Perkins C 35:34 3-6 0-0 2-3 -1 1 10 1 1 0 4 0 5
  P. Pierce F 39:41 7-17 0-1 4-5 +11 2 7 0 3 1 0 4 1 18 
  K. Garnett F 36:42 7-15 0-0 4-5 +14 2 8 3 1 1 2 0 3 18 
 Bench Min FG 3Pt FT +/- Off Reb Ast TO Stl BS BA PF Pts 
  G. Davis 13:42 1-2 0-0 0-0 -6 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 2
  T. Allen 13:25 2-5 0-1 0-0 -9 1 2 0 2 1 0 1 1
  E. House 11:29 1-3 1-2 0-0 -4 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 3
  L. Powe 10:01 1-2 0-0 2-2 -3 2 5 1 1 0 1 0 2
  P. O'Bryant DNP - Coach's Decision
  G. Pruitt DNP - Coach's Decision
  B. Scalabrine DNP - Coach's Decision
 Totals 34-77 2-13 18-22 12 45 14 13 9 7 6 22 88

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Its a very close ballgame. KG did his best.

by spoiled on Dec 17, 2008 10:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I would certainly love to see the Hawks/C's again....

..in the postseason. That seems to be a fun series to watch. (and a scary one, too)

Just think last year if Bibby had his game going…..

by PSquared on Dec 17, 2008 10:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

the starting 5 had icewater in their veins at the end of the game and played to win. so did joe johnson, but we had the 5. ray played joe pretty good for 3 quarters. perk was a killer with the blocks. and if only the refs knew what they were doing, it would be even more fun . the hawks need a big center- other than that they’re terrific.

by nazzbo on Dec 17, 2008 10:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ray must hate that building

Nothing seems to drop for him there.

Glad the C’s were finally able to overcome the wet spots, shot clock malfunctions, and horrible officiating (both ways tonight) in that arena.

by a tommy point on Dec 17, 2008 10:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That was a gutwrencher!

I never thought that a game like that in the regular season only 25 games in could have me feeling similar to what I did in the playoffs. Better to get that monkey off the back now than later. Nice hard fought win C’s. Tough shooting night by Ray for the first time in a while. He’s due I guess. Tough night for PP too, but he played great down the stretch with that bum knee. Those are the type of wins that give you confidence as a team that you can win even when you aren’t totally in sync, and also tell everyone else you are still the champs. I sure hope Cleveland has to play them though and not us. Scary athletic team.

by EJPLAYA on Dec 17, 2008 10:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

They’re only scary at home when they get the calls. What did the Celtics shoot from beyond the arc in the first half? 1-12 or something like that.

The Hawks did not impress me.

by Brickowski on Dec 17, 2008 10:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think they hit a 3 in the first half. 2-13 in the game.

A lot of those Hawk offensive rebounds were long

by CelticPride on Dec 17, 2008 11:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Two games

Two games this year, two down to the wire. Our house and their house. Sure we should have been up by a few more had shots fallen better, but you can’t discount the fact that they are a tough physical team and in both games gave us more than we wanted and had a chance to win them both. Not many teams can say that vs. this team. They deserve a little credit…

by EJPLAYA on Dec 18, 2008 10:23 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The celtics don’t impress anyone. Nobody ain’t scared them. The celtics have refs cheat for them so they can win their games.

P.S.

GO HAWKS!!!
HAWKS 08-09 THIS OUR YEAR!!!

CELTICS SUCKS!!!

by atownhawk on Dec 19, 2008 1:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hawks vs. C's

As a Hawks fan i thought we played the C’s well tonite. Refs made calls both ways. And maybe Brickowski forgot we played the C’s tough in Boston. earlier this year. Anyway I thought it was a great game and im still proud of the way my Hawks played the world champs. The Hawks have played well at home this year, tonight was just our second loss at home. I look forward to battling the C’s aka world champs again. And id also like to send my congrats to all the C’s fans. As always you are the class franchise in the NBA. Heres hoping you all have a merry christmas, and congrats again for a good win. Go Hawks!

by braindawg on Dec 17, 2008 10:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well I’m impressed with the Hawks. While I am a Boston fan, I live down here and it’s nice the local team has a pulse again. What a difference.

by Thruthelookingglass on Dec 17, 2008 11:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

A classy Hawks fan. Merry Christmas to you braindawg.

by RebusRankin on Dec 17, 2008 11:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good execution down the stretch

props to Hawks fan for gracious comment; nice to hear

good execution by C’s during last few minutes; credit Doc for not calling timeout

good D for most of the game; sluggish on rebounding and loose balls

not much flow to the offense; few transition baskets; few assists; give Hawks credit

I don’t think the blown calls were much of a factor; we weren’t as physical/aggressive around the basket as usual; Pierce missed or had blocked 4 layups; those are usually and one’s

I think PP and KG both have minor knee issues; gritty win for the team

a few issues: TA forcing the action when it wasn’t there; needed more patience; -9; BBD one rebound in 13 minutes; and prefer Gabe on Flip Murray

3 at home and then Christmas in LA

by KJR on Dec 17, 2008 11:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Knee issues

Marc Spears voiced the same about KG and PP after the game on CSN sports tonight…

by Berkcelt on Dec 17, 2008 11:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I only saw the second half. Was it my imagination or did all the Celts except KJ just seem a bit slow tonight?

 From botched rotations they usually would make, to just being a step behind, it seemed to me the Celts weren’t reacting as quickly as they normally do.

by Thruthelookingglass on Dec 18, 2008 12:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yes

seemed that way to me too

by KJR on Dec 18, 2008 12:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Same thing last year in those Atlanta road playoff games. Atlanta uses its speed to really mess up the Celtics but that works a lot more on their home court. At the new Garden, the Celtics can control the tempo of the game.

by Reddo on Dec 18, 2008 10:19 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Celtics-Hawks game in Boston is ancient history. Tonight was a different game. No offense to Hawks fans, but I call ’em like I see ’em, and the Hawks did not impress.

And yes, they got significant help from the officials. Let’s start with Josh Smith taking about six steps to the basket and then getting the benefit of a phantom foul call.

by Brickowski on Dec 17, 2008 11:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

 The one thing that stuck out to me, and really got me riled, was the handchecks they were calling on Ray Allen while he guarded Joe Johnson. Then on the other end we didn’t see the same calls for the Celtics.

But that’s life on the road; C’s have gotten homecooking this year as well.

by Berkcelt on Dec 17, 2008 11:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

as a hawks fan looking for the other point of view...

your post makes little sense.

we lost by three points. we lost by one point in boston. we came from behind based on unbelievable three pointers last time. we were winning this time and we missed a lot of open shots this time.

the officials….i was at the game. I will not avoid my homerism if i type too long but i would say at the least, they did not lean toward the hawks. I mean paul pierce fell down and they called an officials’ time out instead of a travel to check the sweat on the floor.

in the end, i think the Celtics hit that last free throw that joe missed which is why you are the better team.

I just really do not enjoy losing to y’all….at all.

by hawksdawgs on Dec 17, 2008 11:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not a good example
the officials….i was at the game. I will not avoid my homerism if i type too long but i would say at the least, they did not lean toward the hawks. I mean paul pierce fell down and they called an officials’ time out instead of a travel to check the sweat on the floor.

You may have a point, although my “homerism” doesn’t think so, but that’s a good example. They showed the replay of the Pierce slip and it actually wasn’t a travel. His front foot slipped but he was able to keep his back foot planted- which is why it ended up all twisted under him- and was able to put the ball on the floor before he moved his back foot. Then he called the time out. Pierce could have seriously hurt himself in keeping that foot planted, which would not have been the best thing for the C’s in the long run, but he did keep it planted.

by Jaycelt on Dec 18, 2008 5:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

KG was HOT

Down the stretch and at someone in the stands. I believe it was KG who said it best last year, Atlanta wanted it. They got it.

Great game to watch though. Great effort by both teams. I kind of hope the Hawks can pass Orlando in the standings (assuming we keep Cleveland at bay). I think they’ll be the toughest second round opponent; I just assume have Cleveland deal with them.

by Berkcelt on Dec 17, 2008 11:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

KG did come up big

yes, Hawks are tough in Atlanta

they’re good in transition, both offense and defense; they’ve got more speed and youth at the wings

we didn’t turn the ball over that much; but when they got it in transition, they often had good looks

in contrast, Celts almost never had numbers, or multiple passes leading to an easy bucket; a few Rondo drives up the gut, but that’s about it

turns into a half-court game; fortunately, we’re better at that than almost anyone; better players, better execution; it just makes for a more grinding game, and more patience is required; we finally showed the patience at the end of the game, and got the right looks

hard to tell the bench to hustle on the one hand and be patient at the other end, but that is often what is required in playoff style basketball, especially on the road; at home, we’ll still blow them out by 25

by KJR on Dec 18, 2008 12:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Didnt rondo say he was playing through some injuries as well? Ick, the knee issues with pierce and kg arent good to hear

by TheAncientRivalry on Dec 18, 2008 12:07 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good quote from KG

I found this quote by KG in a Globe article after the game. Pretty much sums up the Celtics this year:

“We are motivated,” Garnett said. “We don’t circle one game on the calendar, we circle them all.”

by NoraG1 on Dec 18, 2008 5:25 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

good quote, indeed

I’m tired of this “we’ve got a target on our backs” mentality

It’s exactly the opposite. Every other team has a target on their backs

we’re on offense, not on defense

reminds me of the line from Witness when Harrison Ford tells the corrupt police chief, “No, you’ve got it wrong. I’m coming after you.”

That should be the Celtics mentality.

by KJR on Dec 18, 2008 5:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Solid win against a good team. If the C’s had set the tone out of the box, i.e. controlled the glass, I don’t think the Hawks would have been nearly so confident throughout. There’s no denying the that the Hawks are a good team. The C’s need to improve bench production in order to ensure continued dominance. But man… 24-2… I’m just soaking up the feeling! _

by BleedinGreen417 on Dec 18, 2008 7:13 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Praise for Atl;anta

Celts are where they are because they are the best team but all avid fans should agree on this – Let someone else take the Hawks. They are a handful. They did not replace though in my opinion Childress.

Who was KG going at it with behind the C’s basket in 2nd half? Those fools probably won the game for us. KG is always in need of and in search of the energy of madness and someone back there had him amped up.

by Wildblu1 on Dec 18, 2008 8:05 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

I was listening to Felger, Tanguay and Spears after the game last night (don’t ask me why) and Gary finally made a point I could agree with: the Hawks just might be the third best team in the East behind the C’s and the Cavs. Orlando is a good team but I haven’t seen then play with the fire the hawks play with. I have nothing but good things to say about the Hawks, what is not to like about a young team that prides themselves on defense.
As for the rivalry I think we are playing a game of semantics here. It will never be a Boston-NY or a Celts-LAL rivalry, there’s no history. But when I first looked at the schedule this fall I circled three 08 games I need to see: Cavs, Hawks and Lakers. So this may not be a classic rivalry but it might be akin to a Sox-Rays rivarly, you know but sub Pedro and Edwin for KG and ZaZa

by jayrau on Dec 18, 2008 8:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Still not a Rivalry

Hats off to Hawks and their fans, but I still want to emphasize that this is NOT a rivalry. The Celtics may represent an obsession to the Hawks, but that does not make it a rivalry.

by afflatus on Dec 18, 2008 8:12 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Bench: Pruitt

The c’s need to give Pruitt more time on the floor. Our bench is clearly in strugglesville right now and they have much difficulty generating offense. While he adjusts he can have another playmaker, like Pierce or Ray on the court, but gradually as Pruitt gets more comfortable he should be able to attack on offense and play his game – making shots, dishing the ball, increasing the productivity of a stagnant bench. They NEED to play him more – we have all seen the potential, just make it gradual. Plus, he is definitely not a liability on defense, so now’s a better time than ever to make it work. Especially with Rondo hurting and the team winning.

by Slick on Dec 18, 2008 9:47 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Sure

but a big Hawks-Celtics game is probably not the time to do it. Stick him in situations where there’s no pressure, up 30 in the third or something. Thankfully having such a good team means you’ll have a lot more situations for that type of development to occur. Also a comment about the bench in general, it was pretty obvious that they were suffering a lot from Allen being off all night. He usually stays on with the second team for a bit of time and helps to spread the floor for them. That wasn’t happening last night cause he couldn’t hit a shot.

And everyone who’s been suggesting that this was just another game for the C’s that was only slightly true. It was pretty clear to me that KG (if its possible) and PP were even more fired up than usual. They had that little argument in the huddle which you almost never see between the two of them

by Reddo on Dec 18, 2008 10:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In response

Those are all good points, but I guess I didn’t make myself clear. I didn’t mean this Hawks game, I just meant in general, Pruitt should be getting more time, with increasing intervals. Not only in 30 point third quarters. He deserves a shot. If he can’t get it done after some development in actual game time, then we know what we don’t have. But I personally think the kid’s got a lot in him, and will be a solid bench player, either here or somewhere else.

by Slick on Dec 18, 2008 1:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m with you on this point.

by no kidding on Dec 18, 2008 2:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If we’re hoping for Pruitt to lead the bench, we’re in trouble. Luckily, this is not the case.

by kozlodoev on Dec 19, 2008 1:32 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Atlanta: Third Best Eastern Team, and Possibly Rising

Obviously there’s a lot of talent on the Hawks team. and it’s interesting how much they mirror the Celtics. But the thing they seem to lack is Boston’s mental toughness and emotional stability. It’s not at all clear Atlanta will ever develop that before other factors derail their title ambitions.

Barring injuries, I’m confident Boston can handle them again in the playoffs. But like everyone else, I’m hoping the Hawks will first have to go through Cleveland (if they can).

by no kidding on Dec 18, 2008 10:29 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Another Perk Unnoticed Moment

People are starting to like Perk, but I think it could be for the wrong reasons. They say his offense is better, which it definitely is. But it is still the things that go unnoticed that make Perk so important to this team. Near the end of the game Rondo and KG pulled the alley oop again. KG picked his man and then nonchalantly rolled off it and it was over. But did you notice the lack of weak side help on that play. KG lulled his man to sleep, but if you noticed Perk had the weak side defender blocked out so no one could get to KG.

by TrueGreen on Dec 18, 2008 8:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great D down the stretch

Younger teams (like the Celtics of recent years) tend to lose close games because of a missed defensive assignment or a mental lapse.

That doesn’t happen to the C’s very often. You’ve got to beat them with a perfectly executed play or with something they’re not at all prepared for.

The Hawks are for real and I expect them to win 40+ games this year. I just don’t think they can beat the Cavs or the Celts in a 7 game series right now. Close, but not quite there.

by LuckyNumber07 on Dec 18, 2008 8:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Atlanta: #1 team in the EAST SHOLUD BE

As a true Atlanta Hawks fan i say the hawks have improved and they are expected to win 50+ games this year. And they out played the so called world champs.Tthe celtics did not impress me at all because they don’t play any defense. They offense sucks and they cheat. also, they cry alot. one more thing they get most of their points from the free throw line.

 P.S.
(CELTICS ARE NOT AN IMPREESING TEAM THEY SUCK!!!)

ATLANTA HAWKS 08-09
THIS OUR YEAR

by atownhawk on Dec 19, 2008 1:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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