J-Rich and the Advent of CTLIS
Boxed Out: A weekly look at the statistical oddities around the NBA
Goofy stat lines. Biting pseudo-witticisms. That's right, it's time for our latest edition of Boxed Out.
Luis Scola, Monday at New Jersey: 1-for-6 from the foul line
I still can't wrap my head around how this sort of thing happens at this level.
Jameer Nelson, Monday versus Golden State: 9-for-9 from the field, 4-for-4 from three, 22 points, 7 assists, 1 turnover
We mentioned this in the comments section of last week's piece, but it was too efficient a performance not to note once more, especially for a guy I've questioned in the past. It never hurts to put up an effective field goal percentage of 122-plus percent.

Joe Johnson, Tuesday versus Oklahoma City: 20 points, 11 rebounds, 11 assists, 2 turnovers
I love watching this guy play, especially when he isn't burning the Celtics.
Devin Harris and Vince Carter, Tuesday at Indiana: 21-for-37 from the field, 6-of-10 from three, 19-of-21 from the foul line, 67 points, 12 assists, 13 rebounds
That's a heckuva game from a starting backcourt. Didn't hurt that Harris won it at the buzzer either.
Rodney Stuckey, Tuesday versus Chicago: 15-of-24 from the field, 9-of-11 from the line, 40 points, 4 assists
Good thing the Pistons had him in the lineup since he scored 40 of the backcourt's 45 points. Allen Iverson put up the other five from the foul line to complement his 0-for-7 performance in the field.
Randy Foye, Tuesday at San Antonio: 9-for-17 from the field, 26 points, 16 rebounds
We're talking about a 6-4 combo guard here. The rest of the Wolves' roster combined for 22 rebounds. Well done, Randy.
Chris Paul, Thursday at Orlando: 0 steals
Over the Hornets' previous 108 games, that didn't happen once. That's an NBA record. Congratulations, CP3.
Jason Richardson, Thursday versus San Antonio: 11 points, 8 rebounds 1 CTLIS
If you're confused about what CTLIS is, that's because I just invented it for the purposes of this feature: "crunch time lost in space." As in, with the Suns up two on the game's final possession and Richardson assigned to three-point specialist Roger Mason, he managed to get completely and utterly lost in space. He made a half-hearted effort to help Grant Hill, who didn't need help on Tony Parker's drive toward the rim. Richardson didn't get there, but he went just far enough to not have a chance to get back to Mason when Parker kicked the ball to the left corner for the game-winning trey.
No, it doesn't show up in the box score, but it definitely warranted a mention seeing as J-Rich was entirely responsible for Mason getting the look he did.
Nate Robinson, Friday versus Minnesota: 26 points, 10 rebounds (5 offensive)
This guy is listed at 5-foot-9, which makes him seven inches shorter than the giant that is Randy Foye. And 5-9 is a stretch.
Tracy McGrady and Rafer Alston, Friday at New Orleans: 3-for-21 from the field
Not such a great backcourt effort. In a related story, the Rockets put up 79 points on 36.1 percent shooting from the field. They also lost.
Denver Nuggets, Friday versus Philadelphia: 24-of-25 from the foul line.
The Sixers, 27th in the league in free throw accuracy, shot 18-for-30 (60 percent). The difference in the game was four points. Fundamentals, people.
Jermaine O'Neal, Friday at Sacramento: 15-of-19 from the field, 36 points, 9 rebounds
Sometimes, power forwards do come back from the dead, albeit only for a night at a time.
Brandon Roy, Saturday versus Toronto: 14-of-19 from the field, 32 points, 9 assists
We're unabashedly in love with this guy. You're going to want to get used to seeing his name in this space on a weekly basis.
O.J. Mayo, Saturday at San Antonio: 52 minutes, 12-of-22 from the field, 29 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists
One of the many underrated facets of League Pass: getting to watch the Grizzlies, simply for the purpose of observing this guy. How he managed three assists while shooting the ball every time he touched it, I'm not sure. But, wow, he sure is talented.
San Antonio Spurs, Saturday versus Memphis: 8 turnovers
In a double overtime game. That's a clinic in taking care of the basketball.
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Good Job!
I love this new section Steve. I’m a stat junkie.
It’s crazy how good Roy can play sometimes. Going 14-19 from the field for a guard is just nuts. He’s a unique player indeed. Of course, let’s hope he doesn’t show up this Tuesday against our beloved C’s quite like he did against the Raptors this past week.
I also wanted to point out the fact that Jameer Nelson (helped in a big way with his highlighted performance) now stands as the leader in field goal % for all guards, passing Rajon Rondo. Just another stat you now… :D
Btw, Ray Ray has passed CP3 on that same list after tonights game to take the 4th spot in guards fg%. Now THAT’S a pretty efficient back court don’t you all think? ;)
RR #2 and RA #4 is amazing.
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by Dirk on
Dec 29, 2008 1:29 AM EST
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Glad to know there are some stat lovers enjoying the feature
and thanks as well for your contributions, Dirk. I hadn’t checked that list for guards’ field goal percentages in a while, and didn’t realize either a) Nelson’s proficiency overall or b) just how well our guards ranked. Much appreciated; keep up the good work.
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Manuel Aristides Ramirez is the greatest hitter I've ever seen.
by Steve Weinman on
Dec 29, 2008 1:40 AM EST
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good feature-sw. tracy mcgrady is not putting up a lot of numbers- must still be hurting. the big stat machine is lebron- how many mins. is he averaging? delonte has fit in beautifully on that team and no words re his depression—good.
by nazzbo on
Dec 29, 2008 7:47 AM EST
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Funny that you mention, LBJ, nazzbo
Because the Cavs are blowing opponents out so often, he’s actually playing the fewest minutes of his career (36.4 per game) – but his per-minute production is as good as it’s ever been. He’s averaging career highs in points, steals, blocks per 36 minutes and is awfully close to doing the same with rebounds and assists. He’s also putting up the best true shooting mark of his career at 59.6 percent.
Agreed about Delonte. Nice to see him succeeding.
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Manuel Aristides Ramirez is the greatest hitter I've ever seen.
by Steve Weinman on
Dec 29, 2008 11:21 AM EST
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Good Stat
Yes, except for the Wages of Wins approach, we have few statistics that show why players like Jason Richardson and Alan Iverson put up good individual numbers but will never win anything.
CTLIS is a step in the right direction but I’d like to expand it to “DDL’s” - dumb defensive lapses- that occur at any point during the game. Another stat I’d like to see is “BHMs”- short for ball hogging moments, which could cover a wide range of actions such as overdribbling, stopping the ball and taking bad shots when your teammates are wide open.
by Brickowski on
Dec 29, 2008 10:16 AM EST
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Why did the filter cross out "dumb defensive lapses? Are those naughty words?
by Brickowski on
Dec 29, 2008 10:18 AM EST
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Not sure why that happened, Brick,
but DDLs and BHMs both make sense to me. Good stuff.
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Manuel Aristides Ramirez is the greatest hitter I've ever seen.
by Steve Weinman on
Dec 29, 2008 11:15 AM EST
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CTLIS, DDLs and BHMs
Gee Steve, I don’t know about this. With all the acronyms this is beginning to sound a bit naughty. Or perhaps just very, very covert. ; )
Seriously though, Boxed Out has been great—the comments are every bit as fun and provocative as the stats you present! Might I suggest that to complement BHMs, there might be a stat for PUMs, or “Purely Unselfish Moments.” These could be like Tommy points for players from other teams. Just a more positive spin, and a good way to start more endless trade discussions in Forums.
by Thruthelookingglass on
Dec 29, 2008 12:27 PM EST
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Love it, TtLG
Like the positivity quite a bit. Sounds good to me.
Looks like it’s time to inaugurate the Daily Babble Intern Program to help me keep catalog the stats… :-D
Thanks as always for the comments and kind words, TtLG.
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Manuel Aristides Ramirez is the greatest hitter I've ever seen.
by Steve Weinman on
Dec 29, 2008 12:51 PM EST
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lost in space
kudos for noticing that J-Rich thing. I was in shock watching that. In a normal situation maybe he is assigned to help on that drive, which he didn’t really do anyway. but with time winding down what the heck was he thinking. too bad for the suns that it was the new guy and so they cant really come down hard on him and use him as an example, that was really bad defense
by chicagogreen on
Dec 29, 2008 5:59 PM EST
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