Home-and-Home With Indy Cornrows
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Barely a month in, this has already been a strange season for the Pacers. As we noted this morning, the Conseco crew has been far from dominant (5-10) against the part of the league that didn't play in the Finals last season, but the Pacers have already managed to shock the Celts and Lakers. Donnie Walsh is out, leaving Larry Bird more in than ever as far as being the head honcho in the front office is concerned. Jermaine O'Neal is gone at long last; T.J. Ford and Roy Hibbert are part of the equation. And as Celtics fans well know, life is never dull with Jim O'Brien on the bench.
With all that in mind and the Pacers coming to Beantown tonight, the time is ripe for a chat with my favorite Pacers writer, Tom from Indy Cornrows. I answered some questions earlier over at IC, and Tom graciously took the time to reciprocate, thus giving you dedicated readers some respite from my endless rambling in the Babble.
SW: We're into year two of the Obie Era in Indy. When we chatted last spring, you seemed to be enjoying the pace and Obie's rapport with (most of) his players. What are you feelings on the coaching thus far into the second campaign? What are the expectations for this season?
Tom: For this stage in the team's development, I love having Jim O'Brien as the coach. Yes, he runs an offense that is fun to watch, but he's also demanding on the players, and they seemed to respond to him pretty well. This is a pretty young group, and while the crazy pace finds them out of control at times, they're building a solid foundation for the future. The main quibble is at crunch time when the free flowing offense isn't an option. Seems like JOB doesn't offer much at this time forcing a player to step out and make a play for himself. Danny Granger is trying but no one on the team is comfortable in that role yet.
SW: Speaking of Celtic connections, Donnie Walsh's departure leaves Larry Bird front and center as the face of the Pacers' front office. This summer was a busy one with the Pacers, particularly regarding the trade of Jermaine O'Neal to Toronto. What are your initial impressions of this offseason's moves, particularly the JO deal and the draft-night acquisition of Brandon Rush?
Tom: Larry Bird had a huge offseason and hasn't received the credit yet because he was dealing with Bryan Colangelo and Kevin Prichard, so many league observers and pundits can't bring themselves to believe the Bird may have gotten the best of them in those deals. Regardless of how the outgoing players performed with their respective teams, the Pacers needed some cap flexibility and young talent. So they lost Jermaine O'Neal, Ike Diogu and Jerryd Bayless in return for several players currently contributing to the Pacers. Brandon Rush, T.J. Ford, Rasho Nesterovic, Jarrett Jack, Roy Hibbert, and even Josh McRoberts have all played significant roles in wins this year.
SW: As the NBA community watches Donnie Walsh duke it out with Stephon Marbury in the Sizable Apple, it's been easy to forget about another disgruntled point guard in exile. What's going on with Jamaal Tinsley?
Tom: Jamaal Tinsley is quietly working out at his home in Atlanta, Georgia. I still think he'd be valuable to any of several teams that could use some PG help. He just needs a fresh situation with a good coach and he'll be good to go. If he's on a team where he can just play and not have high expectations or a leadership burden, then he'd be worth the risk.
SW: Danny Granger is the real deal. A healthy Mike Dunleavy is a lot better than he looked in Golden State. What under-the-radar Pacer will make a name for himself this season?
Tom: Troy Murphy is already making a name for himself with several double-doubles. He's following Dunleavy's lead from last year.
SW: Word association time, a Daily Babble Q-and-A staple. First word, phrase or thought that comes to your mind..
Roy Hibbert - hard worker
Stephen Jackson - Club Rio
Spike Lee - choke sign
Conseco or Market Square? MSA
Doc Rivers - Ubuntu
Ron Artest - bygones
David Stern - Knick lover
Much thanks to Tom for coming on and doing a great job as always. And now, let's hope his team has gotten its upset for the week out of its system.
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The C's have revenge on the mind
Should see a lot of Scali…
Tony Allen > Dearly departed JP
by Birdbrain on Dec 3, 2008 1:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The O’Neal trade was addition by subtraction for the Pacers. They got a servicable center now. What will be a more than servicable center in a year or two, and a very solid PG, for an overrated overpaid malcontent in O’Neal who plays when the mood suits him.
Great trade for Indy.
Having said that, they’re going to lose by at least 25 tonight.
by Finkelskyhook on Dec 3, 2008 1:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Roy Hibbert: Future Perk
Spike Lee: Idiot
Stephen Jackson: rehabilitated image
Doc Rivers: Lucky
Ron Artest: Train wreck
David Stern: Star protectionist
by Finkelskyhook on Dec 3, 2008 1:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
What, no arena preference for you, FSK?
Couldn’t help but get a laugh out of a few of those, so thanks for that.
Jax’s image change has been one of the most amazing NBA developments of the last couple of eyars.
-sw
Manuel Aristides Ramirez is the greatest hitter I've ever seen.
by Steve Weinman on Dec 3, 2008 2:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Never been there, Professor. With the exception of when they play us, I’ll root for any Obie team in any arena.
Other than TD Banknorth, OK City is small and raukus with great, polite fans. Great prices at Milwaukee but quiet and poor lighting. Way too freaking expensive in Minny. Even when Garnett was there it was hardly ever filled.
by Finkelskyhook on Dec 3, 2008 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tinsley is only worth the risk...
… to teams that really, really need a pg. His contract is too big. But the way they’ve been handling the situation is much better than, say, the Knicks with Marbury. But eventually they’ll need to agree a buy-out.
Other than that, I’m optimistic about the Pacers and like what they’ve been doing, as I voiced a number of times over here.
1 – They hired Jim Morris to be CEO or some other position. I know Jim Morris, he’s one of the most impressive individuals I’ve ever met and any Jim Morris-motorized organization is a well-oiled and wisely ran organization. I also like Larry Legend’s no-nonsense approach. In fact, I believe that the Pacers FO will be known as one of the best in the league in a few years.
2 – I think players like Granger, DunDun and Foster are very likeable. It’s really easier to root for them when they are surrounded by other nice guys like TJ, Jack, Rasho, Rush and Hibbert than by the likes of Artest, Harrison, Shawne Williams, Sarunas and Tinsley. I think that moving that way was a wise move from them. Not primarily to appease the fan base and the community, but because it’s easier to create a good organizational culture with the first type of players.
3 – I think Granger needs to improve his handling and defense to be a franchise players. He’s getting really close and he’s been developing his game every year. He reminds me of a younger Pierce without the swagger.
4 – I’m a fan of Rush (great team player, he just understands the game, good perimeter defense, sharp-shooter when used properly), and they needed to get rid of Tinsley and O’Neal ASAP, so I never doubted that the Summer trades where a good move.
5 – They’ve been losing an huge amount of close games. I think Tom is right, but what O’Brien needs to do is slow down the pace and design some half-court plays for the guys to execute. Granger is no Pierce yet, and as we know, a sole Pierce was enough to win close games consistently.
6 – They also need Dunleavy to make the play-offs, I think. But having Dunleavy in the starting line-up will force them to use Granger as the primary wing defender. I don’t know if I like that trade-off, maybe they should use him as a 6th man and a scoring punch from the bench when he comes back, as long as Quis keeps producing. What are your thoughts on this one, Steve?
7 – I’m not a fan of JOB’s offense by any means, but I like a lot of players on that team, I have a soft spot for their GM (go figure), so I’d like to see them making the play-offs. However, I don’t want to see them finishing with the 8th best record. Over-achieve or else just miss them. Fast tempo, a perimeter oriented PF, good outside shooting, passing bigs, a center with a midrange shot, a quick pg and they play against our defensive scheme in practices, because they use the same one. We’re the better team by far and ultimately we’d win a 7 game series, but I had plenty of 1st and 2nd round emotion last season, gimme someone easy to sweep this time.
by cordobes on Dec 3, 2008 4:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Word association
Roy Hibbert – learner (e.g. “Dude is no Ewing, but those Thompson guys in Georgetown surely can teach a couple of things about the game to big men who are willing to learn”)
Stephen Jackson – under-appreciated (e.g. “Dude is not the cancer he was made to be, he’s a really fine player.”
Spike Lee – trauma (e.g. “Man, Jefferson Davis has been dead by more than a century now, get over it already, stop the hating and stick to the films”)
Conseco or Market Square? Conseco (“I was a big fan of Dale Davis and McKey, but this place looks much better on tv, doesn’t it?”)
Doc Rivers – now what? (“e.g. Man, I’ve always said Doc would prove those doubters wrong. And they still try to find excuses”)
Ron Artest – selfishness, untrustworthy (e.g. “If this guy was humble enough to take his medicines, defer to others instead of taking off-balance 20ft fallaways like he was Kobe and give some help on defense instead of just shutting down his man, he’d probably have a ring by now. Instead of being a much better version of Battier, he’s some guy who can help his team win any given night and implode an entire franchise in the following one”)
David Stern – useful (e.g. “people who like the game are grateful to him, conspiracy theorists are grateful to him”)
by cordobes on Dec 3, 2008 4:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That was fantastic, cordobes
Thoroughly enjoyable – and I love the trend you and FSK seem to have begun today – readers providing their own answers to the Word Association game in the Q-and-A. Can’t wait to see what you folks come up with when I chat with Dave from Blazer’s Edge on Friday.
Manuel Aristides Ramirez is the greatest hitter I've ever seen.
by Steve Weinman on Dec 3, 2008 4:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Danny Granger cant create his own shot like a pierce
by thecaptain34 on Dec 3, 2008 4:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fresh Starts Are Exciting
I’d imagine Pacer fans are excited in an “Al Jefferson leads the Celtics to a 24-win season” way. That is, not because the Pacers are going to win that much, but because they have a lot of young guys that persevere and are likable and easy to root for. That the players are likable should be particularly exciting (and refreshing) to Pacer fans.
Also, I share Cordobes’ fear that they might sneak in the playoffs as the 8th seed. We certainly could do without a repeat of last year’s 1st round series.
by Toine43 on Dec 3, 2008 5:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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