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If the rumors circulating the Association are anything close to credible (I know, I know, but bear with me here, please), the New York Knicks could be a very short time away from having a must-make trade offer on their hands.

The ridiculous part of this is what that particular trade offer entails.

As reported by Marc Berman of the New York Post:

The success of the Blazers has hurt Zach Randolph's trade value, but there are rumblings the Nuggets and the Knicks have discussed a multi-player trade involving the disgruntled power forward.

It is believed names discussed in a potential deal included Linas Kleiza, Eduardo Najera, Steven Hunter and J.R. Smith for Randolph and another Knick. The Knicks appear most interested in up-and-comer Kleiza.

The days when the Blazers were chastised for dealing Z-Bo to the Knicks for Channing Frye and the chance to buy out Steve Francis because "You don't just give away 20-10 guys" are long over.

This is what Zach Randolph is worth in this league now, and if the trade is offered as reported, the Knicks would be utter fools (not for the first time) if they didn't accept it in a heartbeat.

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That's it.  That's the can't-say-no offer for a guy averaging 17 points and 10 boards per game this season after 23.6 and 10 a season ago.  An oft-injured center who has averaged 8.4 minutes in the eight games he has played this season, a 31-year-old power forward who has never averaged more than 6.6 points or 5.5 rebounds per game, a head case two-guard who likes to jack threes and do little else and one promising third-year forward who isn't necessarily a star-in-the-making but does continue to get better each season.  Doesn't exactly knock 'em dead.

But then, it's worth remembering what having Zach Randolph on one's team means these days.   It's been discussed with some regularity in this space, so we'll give you the short-short version:  It means having a good scorer and rebounder whose numbers are extremely misleading.  It means having a power forward whose strength is shooting jump shots from the high post and right wings but who also routinely breaks plays, doesn't pass the ball well and doesn't make his teammates any better offensively.  It also means having one of the worst defenders in the league (yes, even worse than his abominable front-court teammate, Eddy Curry), principally because he can't seem to be persuaded to care at all about stopping anybody.  It means having a guy who can completely short-circuit a team's defense by not ever closing out on a shooter, stepping out when his man steps outside, busting his gut back down the floor or stepping up quickly on a defensive rotation.  It means having a guy with a record for questionable off-court behavior and a widely reputed poor attitude.

And it means paying this bundle of joy more than $61 million between now and the end of 2011.

In order for the Knicks to even begin to turn their dire situation around, Z-Bo must go, at virtually any cost possible (which is why I'm personally hoping he isn't going anywhere).  So what if the Nuggets' package isn't filled with studs?  Nobody is going to be offering studs for this guy, especially low-cost studs without serious conduct concerns and long-term contracts.  Najera's $4.9 million salary comes off the books at season's end.  Head case Smith makes $1.6 million this season and will be a restricted free agent come summer.  Meanwhile, Hunter is on the books through the 2009-10 season, but he will never make so high as $4 million in a single season, and as a center known for playing a bit of defense, perhaps he could even be of occasional use to the Knicks.  Assuming they are willing to change their philosophy to, you know, include the playing of some sort of defense, that is.

Kleiza will be considered the gem of the trade basketball-wise.  He remains on his rookie deal through the end of next season and won't make so much as $2 million either this year or next.  At 6-foot-8 and 245 pounds but listed as a small forward, he provides versatility in the front court, and he can score from both the inside and outside.  The Missouri product is no great shakes as of now, and his numbers would likely drop were he to be moved from the league's fastest-paced team, but he is a nicely developing young player.

Big-time cap relief and a decent young player.  Not great.  Decent.  It almost doesn't even matter who the second player the Knicks have to throw in is, because while the organization values certain youngsters (David Lee, Nate Robinson, at times Renaldo Balkman), some of them rightfully so, there isn't a single player on this Knicks roster who merits the 'untouchable' label.  If the 'Bockers can get this deal done to ship Zach Randolph out of town, they must do so.

The value of addition by subtraction is that high.  Really. 

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As for the folks in Denver, the concept of even considering this deal is a nearly unfathomable one.  That's another story for another time, but it's one that will most certainly be told in this space in the event that this deal draws any closer to completion. 

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Honestly, if I were Denver I’d want Curry, not Randolph. Curry, for all of his faults, is still a legit low post scorer. He is also a high FG% guy, who wouldn’t be chucking up a ton of shots to get his points. Camby has the range to play the 4 on offense. Curry isn’t half the punk that Zach is, either.

Good article.

by MikeDfromNP on Feb 16, 2008 12:28 AM EST reply actions  

Denver should make that offer for Kidd. Let Kidd defend shooting guards, keep the ball away from Allen Iverson for as much as possible, and make a run for a title.

I’m not sure what Zach would give them. It doesn’t solve any of their needs. Likely causes more problems.

by Who on Feb 16, 2008 12:59 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks for another thought provoking article, Steve! Why in the world would Denver even consider this so-called deal? :o

Random thought: Donald Trump should buy the Knicks from the Dolans and make a reality show where the winner becomes the next GM. It couldn’t be any worse than the present mis-management.

by BleedinGreen417 on Feb 16, 2008 3:53 AM EST reply actions  

That is the most fabulous idea BleedinGreen417.
Seriously.
It’d draw so much attention to the Knicks…
Not that it’ll ever happen, but really fun to think about.

Steve, great article.

Not sure how Zach could help the Nuggets…glad it’s not the Celtics’ problem.

by mcpu40 on Feb 16, 2008 8:00 AM EST reply actions  

I loved that poor Knick fan they kept showing Wed with the bag over his head. You couldn’t make this up. Twerp Dolan giving the purse strings to min-evil Isiah who supposedly has the goods on him kept by the beloved S. Marbury. The Knicks lead the league in tattoos per square inch and nothing else.
 Jamal Crawford can shoot though. What’s that thing on his shoulder? They will – being the Knicks – have to give away David Lee to get rid of one of their bad contracts.

by Wildblu1 on Feb 16, 2008 9:44 AM EST reply actions  

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

If Denver could get Artest and Randolph , what a dream starting lineup they’d have.

Artest, Randolph, Anthony, Randolph and the thugster all on one team.

Are there any qualified prison guard coaches to coach this bunch?

by iowa plowboy on Feb 16, 2008 10:15 AM EST reply actions  

I meant Martin as the 5th talented malcontent…

by iowa plowboy on Feb 16, 2008 10:30 AM EST reply actions  

Plowboy – Nice! One of your best ever. Made me laugh out loud this morning.

Randolph is a cancer, so anyone who trades for him deserves what they get. Why anyone would want the guy on their team is beyond me.

Anyone else think the guy looks like a turtle?!

by EJPLAYA on Feb 16, 2008 10:53 AM EST reply actions  

I still haven’t seen that clip everyone talks about where Zach, upset with what he perceives as a bad call, barks at the ref and walks around in a circle under his hoop while they play develops at the other end.

by mcpu40 on Feb 16, 2008 10:54 AM EST reply actions  

who is the gm of denver to even be thinking of such a trade? randolph is also slow. last week’s game against the c’s was the most insignifigant double double i ever saw.

by nazzbo on Feb 16, 2008 11:01 AM EST reply actions  

Wildblue said:
  I loved that poor Knick fan they kept showing Wed with the bag over his head. You couldn’t make this up. Twerp Dolan giving the purse strings to min-evil Isiah who supposedly has the goods on him kept by the beloved S. Marbury. The Knicks lead the league in tattoos per square inch and nothing else.
Jamal Crawford can shoot though. What’s that thing on his shoulder? They will – being the Knicks – have to give away David Lee to get rid of one of their bad contracts.

Wildblue,

Funny that you mention that — it could be the biggest ongoing mystery in New York sports right now. Friends and I have been debating this for several weeks now to no avail. It’s huge, huh?

-sw

by Steve Weinman on Feb 16, 2008 11:02 AM EST reply actions  

mcpu40,

Bah! You really need to see this — it’s that fantastic. I’ll keep looking, although I’ve had an inordinate amount of trouble finding it.

-sw

by Steve Weinman on Feb 16, 2008 11:02 AM EST reply actions  

AS I said on the other thread, I can’t believe the Knicks would make a trade to help their salery cap.

by Wide Load on Feb 16, 2008 11:05 AM EST reply actions  

Eddy Curry and Zach Randolph are 1 and 2 in the so-called Eddy Curry line standings at Yahoo!Sports. Enough said.

I can’t believe there’s a GM that will take any of these guys on his team.

by kozlodoev on Feb 16, 2008 11:56 AM EST reply actions  

mcpu40, in the words of Bartles & James, “Thank you for your support.” ;)

by BleedinGreen417 on Feb 16, 2008 11:59 AM EST reply actions  

Does that move help the Nuggets?

Iverson, Melo, Randolph with K-Mart off the bench is pretty combustible.

by RebusRankin on Feb 16, 2008 12:27 PM EST reply actions  

Bibby to Atlanta…crazy, but it happened.
Shaq to Phoenix…crazy, but it happened.
Kidd to Dallas…not crazy enough, didn’t happen.
Kidd to Boston?
Completely crazy.

by mcpu40 on Feb 16, 2008 5:19 PM EST reply actions  

You’re right, 40. Danny spent the last 4 years ridding the team of “characters” and bringing in character players. Bringing in Kidd, a great player with zero character, and a tanker, would be completely crazy.

by iowa plowboy on Feb 16, 2008 5:32 PM EST reply actions  

“Iverson, Melo, Randolph with K-Mart off the bench is pretty combustible.”

And it would be great if at least one of them played defense.

by kozlodoev on Feb 16, 2008 7:26 PM EST reply actions  

Bibby to Atlanta…crazy, but it happened.
Shaq to Phoenix…crazy, but it happened.
Kidd to Dallas…not crazy enough, didn’t happen.
Kidd to Boston?
Completely crazy.

Winning the KG Sweepstakes? Priceless.

by BleedinGreen417 on Feb 17, 2008 12:38 AM EST reply actions  

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