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When the Celtics made their huge offseason splash, picking up Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett, one of the concerns was team depth.  After all, what good is it to get 3 superstars if the rest of the players can't hold up their end of the bargain?  Danny Ainge promised he wasn't done, and he has since built up a roster around the big three that will contend for a Championship this year.

Already in place were young players like Kendrick Perkins, Tony Allen, Leon Powe and Rajon Rondo.  To varying degrees, each has stepped up to the challenge of contributing to a winning team (a 180 degree turn from the situation they were part of last season).  Credit Ainge for making good decisions on who was worth holding onto and who was more valuable in trades.

Soon after the KG trade, Ainge added Eddie House and Scot Pollard.  While Pollard has predictably spent more time on the pine than the hardwood, he may have some value as a big man sub if he gets healthy by the playoffs.  Eddie House has been our version of Vinny "The Microwave" Johnson, heating up fast and pulling the trigger on 3's even faster.

After flirting with Reggie Miller, the Celtics seemed to luck out by having James Posey fall right into their laps.  He's been as good as advertised on defense and has come up with some clutch three pointers when the team has needed them most.

For most of the year, that lineup has been enough to earn the league's best record.  But the feeling has always been that there were still weaknesses in the depth.  There were no true backup point guards on the team to spell Rondo or fill in if he missed a few games.  The frontcourt depth included two undersized power forwards, Pollard in street clothes, and Brian Scalabrine.

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For months the team stood pat and repeated the line "we're happy with our team" over and over again as free agents like Damon Stoudamire, Gary Payton, and others expressed a strong desire to join the Celtics.  None of them seemed like a good fit to Ainge, so the team waited (which was easy to do as the win totals piled up).

If you could have picked two players to add to the roster, they would be veterans with playoff experience who are hungry for a title and willing to accept a smaller role on a Championship focused team.  They'd be solid guys that wouldn't frustrate the team chemistry and would give the team a boost and a spark off the bench down the stretch and into the playoffs.

Enter P.J. Brown and Sam Cassell (pending waivers).

Brown seems like the perfect fit for the frontcourt.  He's got the size (6'11"), defense, and rebounding that are sure to blend beautifully with the system Doc Rivers and Tom Thibbodeau have in place.  Either Powe or Davis will see some of their minutes reduced, but it would seem that Scalabrine should be the most likely to be pushed to the end of the bench.  I would think that whatever intangibles Scal brings to the table would be more than made up for by Brown's experience.

Cassell slides into the backup point guard position that has been covered by committee all year.  No longer will we have to cringe as Eddie House or Tony Allen barely get the ball over half court, leaving fewer seconds on the shot clock to get into the offense.  Both should still get their share of minutes backing up Ray Allen, in particular if we intend to keep Ray well rested.  But how much time each gets will likely depend on the situation (House for offense, Tony for defense).

The roster had holes in it.  Perhaps they weren't leaking yet, but they might have been enough to sink the ship in the playoffs if things didn't go right. By waiting for the right time (perhaps anxiously awaiting the results of the trade deadline), Ainge has filled those holes.  Time will tell how well they fit into the team and how much of a boost they give the team down the stretch.  But at least for now, they seem to be the perfect finishing touches on the roster that Ainge has constructed.  Now it is up to the players to go and get it done.

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I’m more comfortable with where we are at now heading into the playoffs. The question to myself remains how will this team “JELL” come playoff time?

Will they be selfish and think they can carry the team by themselves, will they play team ball?

I have some concerns, because other than Possey and Cassell, no one else has been to the Finals and what little experience Pierce, Allen, and Garnett have come playoffs, it’s a different breed.

The intensity and the level of competition rises to where teams like the Pistons and Spurs have already been there and know how to handle things… (but we could have said the same thing about the Patriots vs. Giants, how did that turn out)

Overall, I’m very happy were we are at, my concern is only heading into the playoffs, how will this team play, who will show up, hopefully if one of the Big Three decides to take charge and control that they aren’t distancing the other players on the team

by Ancient Red on Feb 29, 2008 9:17 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

it will be about injuries as well- who’s hurt or hurting and who is ready to fillin. old danny boy has given us a chance- a good one. smehow, i predict ray allen will rise and pj brown will be able to come through in 1 or 2 big games.

by nazzbo on Feb 29, 2008 9:22 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

one thought that I wasn’t able to fit into the article was this:

I hated losing Gomes and West, and I still feel like both could contribute to this team. But who would you rather have at the end of the day (for the rest of this year at least)?

Gomes or James Posey?
West or Sam Cassell?
anyone else (Green, Telfair, etc.) or PJ Brown?

upgrades all around

plus I love that Boston is now a destination for free agents

if we have this kind of success now, wait till the offseason and see what Ainge can do there for next year and the years beyond

by Jeff Clark on Feb 29, 2008 9:40 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if Bob Ryan regrets writing that “takes more than 3 players” article. Probably not. I fail to understand why he thought Ainge would not surround the 3 all-stars with the right pieces. He was being a provocative fathead.

I think Ainge said he likes the players they have, not that he likes the team as is. There’s a difference.

by Surferdad on Feb 29, 2008 9:41 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

These are the people most wanted. It couldn’t have gone better…We are poised for victory…A time to cheer!

by BoundingRounder on Feb 29, 2008 9:49 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for another god article, Jeff.

The roster had holes in it. Perhaps they weren’t leaking yet, but they might have been enough to sink the ship in the playoffs if things didn’t go right. By waiting for the right time (perhaps anxiously awaiting the results of the trade deadline), Ainge has filled those holes.

Familiarity remains the biggest real weakness of the team, but as a fan I can’t ask for more from Ainge. He’s done a fabulous job turning the goat into a prized stallion.

by BleedinGreen417 on Feb 29, 2008 9:49 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ainge always said he likes his team but that he would look for the right pieces if they became available.

by Jeff Clark on Feb 29, 2008 9:49 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

He was being a provocative fathead.

That’s what he’s paid for.

I too miss Ryan Gomes, but I believe he’ll be back in a C’s uniform before too long.

Remember many of these FAs (Pollard, House, Sam, PJ) are just here for this season, not to mention Big Baby is only here on a one-year deal.

by tmcdon on Feb 29, 2008 9:50 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Is there any legitimate way that Danny could have upgraded this roster more than he did? It seems (with the exception of maybe Pollard) that every guy Danny has brought in this season has been both the absolute best option, and a perfect fit. I don’t know what else he could have done to put this team in a position to compete.

by Roy_Hobbs on Feb 29, 2008 9:53 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think if you added any more quality players, they’d be too good – meaning, they would take time away from good role players and take touches away from the big 3

by Jeff Clark on Feb 29, 2008 9:56 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

i am remembering the great lift glen mcdonald gave the c’s in the overtime playoff game against phoenix in 1976. you just never know who will come throuh in the [playoffs.

by nazzbo on Feb 29, 2008 10:10 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Powe and Davis arent’t undersized. Powe has the standing reach of a 6-11 player, and Davis is a widebody who defends the post as well as anyone. I don’t recall the team being outrebounded or otherwise weak in the paint when the two of them are in the game together.
The problem with those two isn’t lack of size, its lack of experience, plus the fact that as young players they will get no love from the officials.

by Brickowski on Feb 29, 2008 10:14 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Davis is a widebody who defends the post as well as anyone.

That doesn’t mean he’s not undersized, Davis just finds a way to compensate for it.

by soap07 on Feb 29, 2008 10:38 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

as long as sam and pj accept their roles happily, and doc can manage the minutes well (my only significant concern) then this is a brilliant move. the team has everything it needs to match up with the other elite teams in the league.

doc has a penchant for strange rotation decisions, but hopefully he listens to other coaches and keeps rondo’s minutes consistent so he can continue to develop his game and gain confidence. rondo must have some room to make mistakes and grow. how many losses would you put squarely on rondo’ shoulders? of course, even one can end it all in the playoffs, and that’s why sam will be essential down the stretch.

i’m very excited and can’t wait to see them play the pistons and others since they are not going to be able to force so many key turnovers by pressuring the pg in the back court. fun times ahead!

by reverb09 on Feb 29, 2008 10:58 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I was one of those who opposed the trade to get Ray Allen. I didn’t want to give up the draft pick or Delonte West (and didn’t trust that Allen’s ankles would be healed up). More importantly, I didn’t forsee the effect Allen’s arrival would have on helping to bring in Garnett. When Garnett arrived I was overjoyed, but still didn’t appreciate how important his arrival would be in persuading other free agents to come. The arrival of Posey, Brown, and apparently Cassell, is a real education to me. I don’t know where the ownership is coming up with all the money, but I’m amazed.

by no kidding on Feb 29, 2008 10:58 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

What day is the championship parade going to be on ? ;)

by Champzilla on Feb 29, 2008 11:03 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Brick – soap07 is right. Powe’s wingspan of 6’11’’ is not that impressive. Oliver Miller back in the day was considered undersized and his wingspan was 7’6’’. Powe does find creative ways as well to overcome that, but they are both undersized players. BBD finds a way to overcome it only about 1 out of 5 games. The other games he looks like a deer in the headlights. Powe however seems to get it right most of the time.

Remember though, they are rebounding and playing much of the time against other teams backups. It is a lot easier to look okay against them.

by EJPLAYA on Feb 29, 2008 11:12 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know where the ownership is coming up with all the money, but I’m amazed.

Probably their own pockets, though I am sure selling out all home games helps.

by kozlodoev on Feb 29, 2008 11:27 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I’m not surprised that Bob Ryan didn’t understand how Ainge was going to surround the new Big Three with talent, because Ryan doesn’t show a great understanding of today’s NBA. If he did, he would have realized that there is a trend in the league the last half decade, where veteran players hungry for success sign with good teams for cheap money, or take buyouts to join good teams. I call them Ring Chasers (I used to call them ’paytons’).

Considering that most NBA bloggers new immediately that Boston would become the new hot spot for Ring Chasers as soon as KG came on board, one would have thought Bob Ryan would have been hip to that fact. But when you’re sitting in your 1980s decorated den, watching old Bird VHS tapes on one 19 inch TV and Cheers reruns on the black and white set with the rabbit ears, you might miss out on a few things these newfangled, tattooed-and cornrowed NBA players are up to.

by TripleOT on Feb 29, 2008 12:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

 EJPLAYA said:
  Brick – soap07 is right. Powe’s wingspan of 6’11’’ is not that impressive. Oliver Miller back in the day was considered undersized and his wingspan was 7’6’’. Powe does find creative ways as well to overcome that, but they are both undersized players. BBD finds a way to overcome it only about 1 out of 5 games. The other games he looks like a deer in the headlights. Powe however seems to get it right most of the time.

Remember though, they are rebounding and playing much of the time against other teams backups. It is a lot easier to look okay against them.

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Actually, Powe’s wingspan is 7’2 and his standing reach is a about 9’2…which is a center’s statistics…just to clarify…

Regardless, Brown and Cassell’s experience balance out the lack of experience from more talented, younger players…

by BillfromBoston on Feb 29, 2008 12:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I’ll tell everyone what Danny has done…..

He’s taken a page out of Red’s book as far as bringing in aging players who are looking at a chance to win championships and will but there whole body and soul into trying…..

That’s what our last regime was missing… Pitno couldn’t get it… Wallace couldn’t get it…

And for all the crap that Danny has taken….. It’s time for everyone to stand up and give him a hand…..

by Ancient Red on Feb 29, 2008 1:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I said that Powe had the standing reach of the typical 6-11 player, not that his wingspan is 6-11.

Powe has extremely long arms. I will try to find the measurements, assuming he was measured at one of the predraft camps.

by Brickowski on Feb 29, 2008 1:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If we are playing stats, he also has a very poor vertical jump which is documented again and again in his pre-draft rankings by many experts. That being said, he sure can throw it down hard around the rim.

The point is, that they are both undersized players. How is that a debate, and the only reason it is important is because it limits their post offense and defense. BBD gets blocked a TON! Fortunately he seems to do a decent job of collecting the blocks and going back at it 3-4 times until he gets fouled or makes it. When he does that more games consistently, vs every once in a while, he will be more of an asset like Powe is.

by EJPLAYA on Feb 29, 2008 2:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I like the PJ Brown move, assuming he’s still got game. He’s the long guy that Pollard was supposed to be. Powe and BBD have exceeded expectations though which covered the Pollard mistake. I – longtime Scal supporter – also prefer Brown’s minutes come from him, not Powe/BBD.

I get a bad feeling about Sam Cassell. Tony and Eddie have been pretty good with their minutes and Tony has been much better in last month protecting ball and passing. Don’t see too many of those head knocks like “Man How’d I do that”. But “In Danny We Trust” so maybe Sam’s still got it. Certainly glad Payton is not back.

by Wildblu1 on Feb 29, 2008 6:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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