The Great Crowd Out West Strikes Again
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"If you ranked the top 30 basketball crowds in the country, theirs would be the only NBA one on the list. And that is pretty cool." -- Columbia Missourian reporter and Money from the Parking Lot blogger Bill Powell on the Golden State Warriors' crowd
The Golden State Warriors need to make the playoffs. Because, as we were reminded once more last night, it would be a travesty for the NBA's postseason to go on and the Warriors' fans to not be an integral part of it.
Sadly for the purposes of dramatic flair in this column, the Warriors didn't win last night's contest with the Lakers. But the fact that they even made it so far as overtime was -- call me crazy if you must -- at least partially a testament to their rabid fans and the atmosphere of ORACLE Arena. For all of us fans out there, that's a pretty cool thought to consider.
All of Steve's daily posts can be found in the CelticsBlog: NBA blog. Check him out!For most other crowds in the league (Celts fans not being included, one would hope), the first 45 minutes of last night's game would have been enough to zap their energy for the evening. The home team cruised through the first half, heading to the break with an eleven-point lead but immediately giving it all back by allowing the opponents a 35-23 third quarter advantage. There isn't much that can destroy a crowd quite like having the home team blow a big lead.
In most other arenas, it probably (and sadly) would have been acceptable for the fans to mail in the fourth quarter entirely. The comeback for the Lakers could have been reasonably expected to take them out of the game, and even in what was still a tight game at the beginning of the fourth, they couldn't necessarily have been expected to just pick the intensity back up out of nowhere (well, in an ideal world, they would, but 21st century casual fan culture doesn't exactly allow for that). By the time the 2:36 mark rolled around with the deficit at nine for the home team against one of the best squads in basketball, the fans would have been completely exonerated for the night.
In most arenas, that is.
Not in Oakland.
No, if nearly a decade and a half of misery can teach any positive lessons to a fan base, perhaps it is to never say die. The Warriors' fans suffered but never succumbed for many years, and they saw their faith rewarded with last year's surprising trip to the playoffs and even more surprising upset victory over the top-seeded Mavericks. These are the people who wear their gold "We Believe!" shirts proudly as though they were cult symbols. Because, after all, as Deadspin editor Will Leitch writes in God Save the Fan, "Not much is required of a fan. The only requirement, really, is hoping that my team wins. It is the fundamental aspect of being a fan."
So Warriors fans get it. They believe. And they keep rooting. Hard. All the time.
They showed why once more last night.
With 2:36 left and the Warriors trailing by nine, they were on their feet. With two minutes left, the deficit eight and the Lakers with the ball, you could clearly hear the "DE-FENSE" chat over the announcers on television. Somehow, the roar after Monta Ellis' hanging-in-the-air-while-swerving-around-Kobe fast-break lay-in seemed to allow that sound level to double.
The "DE-FENSE" chant intensified once more as the Lakers brought the ball up the floor with a five-point lead. Every fan in the building seemed to be on his feet, and for whatever reason, it actually felt to the outside observer like the ends of the court were going to close in on the Lakers.
Then they did. Or they might as well have. Because as the decibel level increased, so did the Lakers' nervousness, and Ronny Turiaf threw the ball away, leading to a steal for Monta Ellis and another high degree-of-difficulty lay-up for the Dubs, this time for Kelenna Azabuike. Warriors down three, 1:02 to play. Timeout, Lakers. Pandemonium.
In 58 seconds, the Warriors had cut an eight-point deficit to three, put the opponent on its heels and seemingly caused the sound level in the building to quadruple. But here's the kicker: Thinking about it afterwards brought forth the realization that for a lot of arenas in this country, the sound level at ORACLE Arena when the Warriors were down eight would be equivalent to the noise level in most of those other buildings only after the home team had come all the way back to take the lead or win the game.
Not in Oakland.
Suddenly, coming out of the timeout, the "Beat LA!" chanters were out in force. They were coming through the television, invading the living room...and the Lakers' heads, too. Kobe missed, Monta hit, and it felt like the roof was going to come off the building. Yet again, that was before the Warriors had even so much as tied the game.
When they finally did, on two Baron Davis free throws with less than four seconds to play, well, all I can say is wow.
I wasn't even there. I was three thousand miles away in the comfort of my own dwelling. Yet I couldn't escape the feeling that the ORACLE crowd brought me a whole heck of a lot closer than that.
It was a regular season game in mid-March, one that easily could have been conceded in the final three minutes. Anywhere else, it probably would have been. It Oakland, it wasn't and probably never will be.
The Golden State Warriors ultimately came up short in overtime against the Los Angeles Lakers last night. But their fans most certainly did not.
So here's to you all, Warriors fans. For making standing and cheering an artful act of beauty once more.
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What are we supposed to say to this? Congrats to Chris Cohan for selling up tempo basketball? Mavericks fans had the same reputation in the Nelson days, that’s what one dimensional fun to watch basketball does, puts butts in the seats and keeps them loud. Kudos for packing a devoted house but considering that’s their goal above winning a championship I really don’t think it’s something to revere.
by davemonsterband on Mar 25, 2008 4:34 AM EDT reply actions
davemonsterband,
I haven’t suggested that we should revere the way the Warriors have run their organization (the last decade and a half clearly indicates otherwise). But so as I understand it, the fans haven’t just ‘come alive’ during the Nellieball era. Oakland has long had a reputation for having one of the best fan bases in the game — even during the lean years.
There have been plenty of uptempo teams over the years. But the noise we saw last night — and more significantly, throughout last season’s playoffs — hasn’t been replicated in Phoenix or Denver or even Dallas. There is a different type of atmosphere in Oakland, and it only intensifies when the Warriors are good. It makes watching the games even more of a pleasure than it already is. That’s all I’m saying.
-sw
nellie played for red and tommy and knows how to make a team run. if i could have one player on the warriors it would be monta ellis— i love his game. he and rondo would run like crazy. the boston crowd is a great one too. the c’s fans for some reason are not the same as the redsox nation— thank god.
nazzbo,
I’m with ya all the way about Monta. He has easily become one of my favorite players to watch this season.
Just to clarify, since you brought it up, no disrespect intended here for the Celts crowd. I’ve loved my experiences at the Fleet/New Garden, particularly in the playoffs. That said, the fans out in Oakland are really special, and I wanted to take some time to pay homage to them here.
Thanks as always for writing in.
-sw
Steve, I’m so sorry I never got back to you last week re: Kwame. I have a new baby in the house, and my Celticsblogging is erratic. I read your comments that night, but passed out before replying. I intended no disrespect. I agree with your rebuttal and think that I got caught up in a rant. Your rational assessment of Brown’s situation was a better reflection of the truth than my kind-of-knee-jerk reaction to it.
I do, however, disagree with the posters who said they’d like to see Brown on the Celtics. He’s too much of a sad sack. Perk is at least as good, and Powe blows him away.
As always, I love the fact that you read our comments and engage a dialog.
Cousin It,
No worries about the time taken in responding. We’ve all got things going on — in ‘real life,’ so to speak — and it’s pleasure to hear from you whenever you do get the chance to write in. Congrats on the new baby; hope all is going well in that regard!
You needn’t worry about the issue of disrespect either. I’ve long appreciated your posting here, and the fact is that sometimes we learn the most from each other when we have conflicting viewpoints.
Frankly, I think you’re not giving yourself enough credit on this one. You’re absolutely right that Kwame’s career hasn’t been much to write home about, and that the stat sheets don’t tell the whole story on that. I simply didn’t think you gave me enough credit for recognizing that the first time around. But really, if I as the writer think you “didn’t give me enough credit for recognizing” something, chances are high that that’s merely a euphemism for “I didn’t make it clear enough in the piece the first time through,” since it’s my job to do that as a writer. No worries. I always appreciate you and everyone else on this site writing in and keeping me honest. I never mind clarifying a point.
I think our only real dispute was one that could begin a far deeper conversation — again, that of per-minute and advanced stats. It’s a debate that has been raging in the blogosphere for much of the past year (likely longer), and I’m not sure how thoroughly it has been addressed here on CelticsBlog. To be truthful, I just really got into advanced stats myself last autumn, and I’ve been doing everything possible to immerse myself in information about them such that I can make a judgment about how useful they are to me. I’ve read a variety of web sites and studies, consulted writers that I hold in high respect, and I’m currently in the midst of slowly plodding through Dean Oliver’s Basketball On Paper in my spare time. Some of what folks like John Hollinger say makes quite a bit of sense to me, some of it very little, and some of it simply requires greater understanding on my end. Currently, I’m working on increasing that understanding, and I’ll always welcome thoughts on the world of advanced stats here as well. It’s a discussion I’m happy to have, as I’m always looking to learn.
Thanks as always for the time, Cousin It.
-sw

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