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Schadenfreude

Sorry Laker fans.  It's nothing personal.  (Well, for most of you it isn't)

Bill Plaschke (same guy that accused Pierce of faking):

The Lakers didn't choke.They blew the NBA Finals without making a sound. They botched their entire season while standing still. 

You know how Los Angeles fans are famously criticized for leaving games early.  Add Kobe Bryant to their list.  He walked off the court with three seconds remaining as the Lakers were bringing up the ball for a final shot.  It was a most egregious act for a most valuable player.

T.J. Simers, LA Times:

Incomprehensible. Disgusting. Deflating. Ridiculous. Sickening. Impossible to fathom. A total meltdown. Appalling. Revolting. Depressing. Talk about a choke job. Historical and horrifying. Alarming. Shocking. The Lakers have the game's best coach, the game's best player and a 24-point lead almost halfway into a game they really must win, and they fall apart, disappear, take the rest of the night off. Unexplainable. Laughable, if everyone isn't crying, and Boston doesn't have to win but one more game to win a championship that was still there in the Lakers' clutches."

Bill Simmons diary:

5. The Kobe-MJ thing ... done. Over. Jordan never would have let that happen in the Finals. Ever. Under any circumstances. Nobody is ever allowed to bring this up again.

8:48: Just when I thought this couldn't get any better, they just cut to a replay of Vujacic punching a chair and fighting back tears on the bench. That wasn't just the best moment of the Celtics season, I think it was the best moment of my life.

Here's that moment captured on Youtube  

Forum Blue & Gold contributor:

A Game 4 Haiku
Lakers up Twenty
Spaniard and Odom Vanish
May I drink at work?

You can pinpoint the moment when his heart breaks.   Sad.

Kobe plans to drink to dull the pain

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“Laughable, if everyone isn’t crying, and Boston doesn’t have to win but one more game to win a championship that was still there in the Lakers’ clutches.” Am I missing something? We were up 2-1 and the chip was “still there in the Lakers clutches”? Talk about denial.

by Eric on Jun 13, 2008 3:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“The whole game, from the minute I came in, they called fouls on me. He fell down, foul. I was trying to find a way to guard him for 48 minutes, and everything I did was a foul. He got me. He went to the basket, and it was a good basket. I don’t know what else to say,” Vujacic said, half-forlorn, half-disgusted as he stood in front of his locker in a morose Lakers dressing room.

Sasha still trying to blame the refs.

by Jeff Clark on Jun 13, 2008 3:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Where’s all the crying about the refs? Where’s all the crying about fouls? Where’a all the whining about favoritism?

The Lakers have the game’s best coach, the game’s best player and a 24-point lead almost halfway into a game they really must win, and they fall apart, disappear, take the rest of the night off.
 And so they expect it to be given to them. Every time you watch Kobe interview or talk you can really tell how much he thinks he’s Michael. Somehow he must believe that the more he acts like Jordan the more everyone else will believe he’s Jordan and that all those great things will happen to him. My favorite part of that postgame interview after I got to watch it was Kobe placing the blame squarely on the shoulders of his teammates.

by tmcdon on Jun 13, 2008 3:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Man, I was in the forum, clicked back to the main page and thought I was on the wrong site, until I realized that americans also use the word “Schadenfreude”, since there´s no english word for that. I am german, so I think I`m an expert on this topic. ;D

So, in my infinite wisdom about the topic of “Schadenfreude”, let me just add:

"Nananananana, we beat you, nanananananana

by Casperian on Jun 13, 2008 3:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“Laughable, if everyone isn’t crying, and Boston doesn’t have to win but one more game to win a championship that was still there in the Lakers’ clutches.” Am I missing something? We were up 2-1 and the chip was “still there in the Lakers clutches”? Talk about denial.

That’s not a bad quote. If they tie it up 2-2 the series is as much in the Laker’s clutches as Bostons. Especially if they continued the dominance and blew Boston out.

by libermaniac on Jun 13, 2008 3:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lakers fan here. Your guys fought out one tough game there. I went from complete elation in the first half to absolute shock and horror in the second. As a Laker fan, I hate the whining about the officiating as well. It’s something we discuss a lot on FB&G and Phil should work harder to contain his team in that regard. Hats off the Celtics. Pre-series they were disrespected by almost everyone in the sports community who were picking the Lakers to roll over them. While I’m hurt at the 3-1 deficit and especially after last night, I will say your team wanted it more and is the better team so far. No question there.

I look forward to more years of this match-up, just like the 80’s. It’s a great time to be a Celtics or Lakers fan.

About the Kobe/MJ thing, that’s just stupid. It’s like Brady/Montana and on down the line in every sport. It’s a great debate, but there’s no way to compare great players from different eras. The whole “best player in the league” thing is a little more valid as a debate. Even as a fan of Kobe I don’t go around throwing that label into the conversation. There’s a great many fantastic players in the league, your Big 3 included, and the measure of greatness isn’t winning MVP’s…it’s winning championships. Right now, your team is one game away from ending that discussion.

by The Fanalyst on Jun 13, 2008 4:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

T.J. Simers, LA Times:

“The Lakers have the game’s best coach”

I can see where the argument can be made, but I’m unconvinced.

by Cousin It on Jun 13, 2008 6:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“The whole game, from the minute I came in, they called fouls on me. He fell down, foul. I was trying to find a way to guard him for 48 minutes, and everything I did was a foul. He got me. He went to the basket, and it was a good basket. I don’t know what else to say,” Vujacic said, half-forlorn, half-disgusted as he stood in front of his locker in a morose Lakers dressing room.

Isn’t that were he scissored Ray? It is nice to see the Lakers crying. When this started I thought Celtics in 5 now it looks like it just may happen. Thank you Celtics you’ve been great!

by liam on Jun 13, 2008 6:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Very easily could have been four, you know.

by CoachBo on Jun 13, 2008 6:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

For over a month, my life’s been dictated to by the televised game times. This last week has practically destroyed all semblance to normal life. I lurk about this website like a zombie in one of the Living Dead movies. I can’t any work done. And yet I’m half-freaked out knowing it might all end Sunday night. Fanaticism hurts.

by no kidding on Jun 13, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I feel a bit bad for Sascha. I told my girlfriend well before the scissor shenanigans that the Celts as a group were picking on Sascha and doing little things to piss him off. It was funny to follow and even better, it worked and seemed to really rattle him.

And that said, “The Machine” was broken down for the world to watch. It’s gotta hurt.

by Thruthelookingglass on Jun 13, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“Just when I thought this couldn’t get any better, they just cut to a replay of Vujacic punching a chair and fighting back tears on the bench. That wasn’t just the best moment of the Celtics season, I think it was the best moment of my life.”
Really, Bill Simmons? I guess I should indeed look at the subject title. But sheesh, that is so freaking lame I can’t describe it — and how overrated Bill Simmons is as a columnist. If you’re going to pick a sports moment as the best in your life, could you at least pick something A) that the Celtics positively or B) something that a Laker from a previous, more easy-to-hate era than this group (which we barely know!). Bird stole the ball. Havlicek stole the ball. Game 6 against the Suns, Triple OT. Get a clue.

by Big_Easy on Jun 13, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

one game at a time. no cart before the horse and all the other cliches,but we are in the sweet spot. all the pundits and the stephen a smiths are wearing green. it kind of makes me sick. van gundy and breen can go cry as well. tommy gets a tommy point. and all of us celtics nuts get to stay on the happy bus.

by nazzbo on Jun 13, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Big_Easy said:
  "Just when I thought this couldn’t get any better, they just cut to a replay of Vujacic punching a chair

I don’t think he was punching a chair. It looked to me that a Laker staff member either offered him a drink or tried to console him. He was punching at that guy. I cannot imagine a Celtic doing that.

by TrueGreen on Jun 14, 2008 8:04 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I just watched the youtube film on Sasha again. It’s worse than I thought. He was trying to hit the guy who was trying to console him and missed, just like his shots. He hit the chair instead.

by TrueGreen on Jun 14, 2008 8:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jeff said:
  

    “The whole game, from the minute I came in, they called fouls on me. He fell down, foul. I was trying to find a way to guard him for 48 minutes, and everything I did was a foul. He got me. He went to the basket, and it was a good basket. I don’t know what else to say,” Vujacic said, half-forlorn, half-disgusted as he stood in front of his locker in a morose Lakers dressing room.



Sasha still trying to blame the refs.

I don’t know where this quote came from, but there was a play where Ray and Sasha ended up out of bounds on the floor. As Ray was trying to get up and get back on the court Sasha got Ray’s ankles between his two feet and almost seemed to be trying to twist Ray’s ankle. And believe it or not a foul was called on Sasha. That was more than a foul, it was over the line dirty. Ray could have gotten hurt. So what’s Sasha complaining about? Just as the C’s responded to Doc who kept telling them they would win, Sasha responded to Phil Jackson who put the blame on the refs. I actually thought the refs were good in this game. They did let them play, but it was consistent on both ends.

by TrueGreen on Jun 14, 2008 8:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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