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Could J.R. Smith Be a Mini-Moss In San Antonio?

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Cancer.  Miscreant.  Loser.

A year ago at this time, those were the words we were hearing as descriptions of one Randy Moss.   That would be he of the penchant for making hood ornaments out of traffic officers, beating people up (more a high school issue), not busting his gut on the field, causing dissension among his teammates and generally acting like a jerk whenever possible.

Few believed he would fit in New England, but those who did asserted that it would take a special coach like Bill Belichick to make it work.

From day one, Moss showed up to play big-boy football in New England, and the rest is history.  He spent a season setting records with his quarterback and their offense, generally behaved as a model citizen and was far more responsible for the Patriots' 18 wins than for their one loss last season.

The belief remains strong that few coaches and organizations could have gotten as much out of Moss as the Patriots did last year.  The winning culture that Bill Belichick has established and the understanding that those who don't get in line with the program get sent packing in short order have been credited as crucial to the success the Pats had with Moss last season.

If any NBA coach and team have come close to paralleling the Patriots over the past ten years (besides the illicit videotaping end of the spectrum), they are no doubt Gregg Popovich and the San Antonio Spurs.  The Spurs have won four titles in the last decade, and they have done so largely thanks to having one of the league's best tactical coaches as well as a culture upheld by the coach and players of professonalism and team-first behavior at all times.

This is all relevant because, as the San Antonio Express-News' Buck Harvey points out, the Spurs will be faced this summer with the decision of whether or not to pursue free agent Denver swingman J.R. Smith.

While all the logical signs point to his not being a successful Spur, here's wondering if J.R. Smith could have an effect in San Antonio similar to the one Moss had in New England -- but on a much smaller level of course.

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Harvey does a good job laying out the myriad of risks associated with Smith: He has a history of conduct issues (there's been some fighting in his past), some trouble with on-court discipline (see his benching in 2007) and a general lack of interest in playing defense.

X.  X.  X.  Those would be three strikes that could certainly prevent him from becoming a member of the black and silver at any point in this lifetime.

But Smith also holds something the Spurs may be desperately craving this off-season: explosiveness.

This guy legitimately epitomizes instant offense.  A 6-foot-6 swingman, Smith came into the league known for his ability to get to the rim and finish off thunderous dunks.  He's since turned himself into an all-around threat on the offensive end of the floor.

He entered the league below 30 percent from behind the three-point line and has improved that aspect of his game steadily over the last four years.  In fact, Smith shot an excellent 40.3 percent from deep this past season to go along with his 46.1 shooting from the field.  He also isn't shy about getting the ball up, averaging more than 12 points in 19.2 minutes per game in Denver this season.  That included 13 performances of 20 points or more, led by a bonkers 43-point effort (15-of-25 shooting) in Chicago back in February.

The Spurs dropped out of the top ten in offensive efficiency this season.  At 10.1 points per game, an aging Michael Finley was the only Spur outside the big three of Parker, Ginobili and Duncan to average in double figures.  The team has just ten players currently under contract for next season, and the Spurs are almost unquestionably in need of a big-time offensive energy boost.

It's worth noting that the Nuggets played the league's fastest-paced game last season, and Smith's total numbers would all but certainly come down if he went to a place like San Antonio.  But he would still provide a major offensive upgrade off the bench for this team, and he would allow the Spurs to start Manu Ginobili once and for all, which is what will ultimately need to happen there.  Smith showed this year that he has the ability to come off the bench to score points in bunches, and there is no reason to expect his efficiency from the field to drop after four years of steady improvement.  He could truly add a dimension to the Spurs' game and thus be that missing piece that brings this team back to the top in the Western Conference -- if all plays out well enough.

The problem, once more, comes down to those risk-versus-reward issues.  My buddy Mays points out that Smith and Moss are different cases in that "Smith isn't transcendently talented."  This seems like a good time to make this point particularly clear: J.R. Smith doesn't compare to Randy Moss in terms of potential rewards of his presence on a team.  Moss is one of (if not the) most talented players at his position in all of football.  Smith is an exciting reserve guard.  There is an enormous gap of difference there, one which makes Moss a much more worthwhile investment.

But both players have the ability to be difference-makers on some level, which is why we're sticking with the analogy -- with the understanding that J.R. Smith is nowhere close to analagous to Randy Moss (just wanted to make that crystal clear once more).

Truth be told, I'm big on character guys,  and I'd have a hard time ever convincing myself to make a conscious effort to put a dude like J.R. Smith on my team.  But I'm not Gregg Popovich or his team.  Pop and the solid influences of the rest of the Spurs helped turn later-renowned hothead Stephen Jackson into a solid contributing role player and non-distraction on a championship team in 2003.  Pop is as respected a coach as there is in the game today, and his players are as committed to winning as he is.  If anyone could take a chance on Smith with a possibility of reaping some benefit, it's this group.  Both the players and the coaches would have no trouble making it clear to Smith that he would have to buy into the team philosophy -- no idiocy, perhaps even occasionally playing defense -- or he would be shown the door.  For a team so strapped for offensive potency aside from the three studs, it could be a move that proves all but necessary in the chase for a fifth title.

But it could also be a move that begins the deconstruction of all this team has stood for: classiness, professionalism, unselfishness and team play.

By and large, the Moss experiment worked in New England.  San Antonio is New England's match in the realm of pro ball.

J.R. Smith isn't basketball's Moss, but he could have a similar effect on a far lower scale.

Whether he will or not will only be told by time -- on a hot Sunday morning in June, I'm truly not sure.

Is J.R. worth the trouble in the Alamo? 

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George Karl has done a truly magnificent job coaching JR Smith. I can’t believe the makeover Smith has gone through. The decision making, the shot selection, the added consistency, becoming a team player, the added interest in defense. Karl has lit a fire under this young man and JR Smith has responded. Excellent coaching job.

I have no concerns on the character of JR Smith which is something I didn’t think I’d ever get to say two years ago. Playing at least another year under George Karl would be good for him but I think he can handle it without George.

I also find it very interesting that he did all of this while Iverson was out of control like normal and while Carmelo slowly and consistently fell apart in large part from Iverson’s influence. Mental strength is there.
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JR Smith was a very good perimeter shooter coming out of high school. The only reason he shot as low as 28% was shot selection and bad decisions. He kept taking contested threes with a hand in his face. He had no comprehension or interest in learning the difference between a good shot and a bad shot. He’s just jacked up shots. Continued through his second year. Up and down, mostly down (once Iverson arrived, pre-Iverson it was mostly up), with the Nuggets in the third year (leading to being benched). Fourth year JR Smith went from strength to strength.

The second unit for Denver was led by Smith and played a huge factor in Denver winning games late in season and in cutting Laker leads in the playoffs. Smith was always the one leading the break pushing himself as hard as he could possibly go and constantly refusing to give up.
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JR Smith would be a fantastic addition to the Spurs. He’s exactly what they need. They need a fourth scorer who can create his own shot. They need a wing that can start alongside Bruce Bowen to balance the team better. They need that supporting scorer to give Duncan/Manu/Parker some help.

His penetration, his shooting ability, pull up J, ability to run the floor alongside Parker and Manu. Lovely stuff.

The defense is coming along. I’m not worried about it at this point. It’s weak but he’s showing an interest there which is the first and most important step to getting better. He’s still young and likely will improve there. He’s very competitive and he’s starting to understand he has to play better defense in order to win.

San Antonio should definitely try to sign JR Smith. They desperately need a fourth scorer and won’t win again until they do land that scorer.

by Who on Jun 22, 2008 2:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

By the way … If I’m Denver there isn’t a hope in hell I let this kid leave. JR Smith and Carmelo are the future of the Nuggets and they can build a contender from that foundation.

Gotta get rid of Iverson. And probably Camby too. Gotta do it now.

by Who on Jun 22, 2008 2:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and remember, the Bulls could barely give this guy away. He would look pretty decent right now in that New Orleans lineup, where he started out: Paul / Smith / Stojakovic / West / Chandler

by bostonfan23 on Jun 22, 2008 9:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Uhm… except for one thing. JR Smith was never on Randy Moss’s echelon. Not even close. If you insert “Ron Artest” for “JR Smith,” then your thesis would make more sense. No disrespect Steve, but the only similarity between Moss and Smith is that they’re both punks. However, JR Smith is not even close to being the difference maker Randy Moss is on gameday.

by TradeProposalDude on Jun 22, 2008 11:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TPD,

Thanks for the comment, but please see this excerpt from the piece:

“The problem, once more, comes down to those risk-versus-reward issues. My buddy Mays points out that Smith and Moss are different cases in that "Smith isn’t transcendently talented.” This seems like a good time to make this point particularly clear: J.R. Smith doesn’t compare to Randy Moss in terms of potential rewards of his presence on a team. Moss is one of (if not the) most talented players at his position in all of football. Smith is an exciting reserve guard. There is an enormous gap of difference there, one which makes Moss a much more worthwhile investment.

But both players have the ability to be difference-makers on some level, which is why we’re sticking with the analogy — with the understanding that J.R. Smith is nowhere close to analagous to Randy Moss (just wanted to make that crystal clear once more)."

I’m quite cognizant of the difference between them, and I agree with you about Smith not being close to the difference-maker Moss is. But he does have the potential to be an explosive key piece. I think I make it quite clear here that I never put Smith on Moss’ echelon though.

-sw

by Steve Weinman on Jun 22, 2008 11:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Also worth mentioning that J.R. Smith was nearly traded to the Spurs back in ’06 while he was sleeping through Hornets practices and feuding with Byron Scott. What type of offer is he expected to get? It would seem he could at least expect a Kyle Korver-size contract, six years at over $4 million a year. Would it take more than the full-mid level to pry him away from Denver, something front loaded? Also, SW, belated thanks for my second(!) daily babble shout out.

by The Walker Wiggle on Jun 22, 2008 2:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The thing about Stephen Jackson, though, was that he was also on a short contract, and I don’t recall SA making too much of a push to keep him around after they won the title (I could be wrong, though).

Would they be able to keep Smith reign in if he’s got a decent-sized multiyear contract? Smith’s not going to be signing a one-year deal for $2M. Putting Smith in a good situation like SA is one thing; to really make it work, he’s gotta stay hungry.

by the_Bird on Jun 22, 2008 2:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wiggle, I can’t see anyone offering him a six-year deal, given his history of being a total headcase. He’s also got enough talent where he’d be crazy to lock himself in for $4M per over that long a time; if he does well, he’s got the talent (even if still mostly unrealized) to be a $10M – $12M/yr man down the road. But, I could see something like 3 years at the full MLE, plus or minus a couple mil.

by the_Bird on Jun 22, 2008 2:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great point, Bird, a long deal is possibly less appealing to Smith than to other young, back-up shooting guards. (Though at the end of a six year deal he’d still only be 28.) Three years, twenty mil?

by The Walker Wiggle on Jun 22, 2008 3:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The thing about Stephen Jackson, though, was that he was also on a short contract, and I don’t recall SA making too much of a push to keep him around after they won the title (I could be wrong, though).

San Antonio offered Jackson $10mil more than anyone else was willing to pay ($12mil 3 years was the deal I think). The Spurs decided to play hard ball because Jackson had no market value around the league. Jackson took a minimum contract with the worst team in the league instead in order to gain the contract he deserved. Which he did.

Jackson wanted $25mil at the time I think, not certain though.

by Who on Jun 23, 2008 2:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Also worth mentioning that J.R. Smith was nearly traded to the Spurs back in ’06 while he was sleeping through Hornets practices and feuding with Byron Scott.

Spurs were offering Brent Barry but the trade fell apart. The Spurs actually called Barry to tell him he was dealt to New Orleans, rang him back a few hours later and said see you in practice tomorrow the deal fell through.

I can’t remember what happened to that deal.

The Spurs have liked JR Smith for a long time.

by Who on Jun 23, 2008 2:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and remember, the Bulls could barely give this guy away. He would look pretty decent right now in that New Orleans lineup, where he started out: Paul / Smith / Stojakovic / West / Chandler

It’s a shame because Smith was a great fit next to Chris Paul but JR’s insubordination meant he had to be dealt away. It was the correct move.

The Bulls were just dumb. Typical Paxson move over-worrying about character instead of giving the guy a chance at a fresh start. He’s exactly what the Bulls are missing over the past two years and likely a few more years. A shooting guard with size and talent who can score. That was dumb.

What was even dumber was nobody in the league out-bidding Denver’s offer? But I believe part of that had to do with the quick trigger of Paxson who just didn’t want to deal with the kid. If he’d waited a bit longer he could have done better but hey that’s Paxson.

by Who on Jun 23, 2008 2:50 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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