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Drive For 18

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The cigars are still smoldering in ash trays across Celtic Nation but that doesn’t mean we can’t look forward.  I’ve held off on this topic because I wanted to savor the moment.  Now I’m starting to get greedy for another banner.  So here are 3 reasons why repeating might be tough and 3  reasons why we have some hope to repeat.

Big 3 Obstacles To Repeating:

1.  The Big Thirtysomethings – I’m sure you are aware of this by now, but Pierce, Allen, and Garnett are all over 30 years old.  Everyone stayed (reasonably) healthy this year.  Pierce still seems spry and Garnett is intense as ever.  Still anyone can be injured at any time and the older you are, the harder it is to recover.  It was nice to see Ray Allen break out of his early postseason slump, but it always seems to be the shooting guards that trail off suddenly.  There are a lot more Mitch Richmonds in the world than Reggie Millers.  On the other hand, even if Ray devolves into a pure spot up shooter, that would still be a valued piece of the puzzle.

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2.  Complacency – They’ve climbed the mountain, reached the pinnacle, and realized their greatest dreams.  What’s left?  How do you get motivated now?  How about history?  I mean, the Celtics are not just known for Championships.  They are known for lots and lots of Championships.  This Celtics team has achieved the immediate goal of winning their first title.  Now they can work on that whole "dynasty" thing.  They are going to need to find something to keep themselves driven.  The best defense in the league won’t stay the best if they aren’t giving 110%.

3.  Post-Title Money Grab – You’ve already heard that James Posey will exercise his out option to become a free agent.  His value is at an all-time high and he’s going to demand a big payday.  It is not clear how much money and how many years it will take to hold onto him.  I hope he’ll be back, but I don’t think anyone would blame him for taking more money and security elsewhere.  To a lesser extent you could say the same for Eddie House and even Tony Allen.

Big 3 Reasons They Could Repeat Anyway:

1.  One More Year of Familiarity – Clearly the entire team came together in a big way on defense.  Offensively, on the other hand, things weren’t always smooth sailing.  Many times it seemed like the New Big 3 took turns taking over and leading the team in scoring.  It was what each of them was used to in their past lives and it was enough to get the job done - mostly due to the superior defense.  But it wasn’t ideal.  Every once in a while, however, they gave us a glimpse of what they are capable of.  When they were truly clicking they presented a balanced attack with beautiful ball movement and spacing that kept defenders’ heads spinning.  Pierce slashed through the paint, Garnett played the pick and roll perfectly, and Ray bombed 3’s from all around the arc. 

Now they’ve played 108 games together (plus preseason).  They’ll have another preseason to tweak the offense and develop roles further.  Basically, if you thought they looked good on offense this year, look out next year.

2.  Rondo and Others Now Vets With Championship Experience – Rajon Rondo took a huge step forward in his development curve this year.  He went from shaky rookie with potential to solid starter to occasionally dominant in under a year’s time.  Still, there were forgettable moments where he looked very much the 2nd  Now he’s seen just about everything teams will throw at him and stands tall as a Champion.  He’s an obsessive game tape watcher.  He’ll get in the gym and work on that jumper.  Count on him figuring out ways to get better and better. 

Count on the same from Perkins who gets a little bit better every year.  Leon Powe and Big Baby each learned a lot by playing and helping the team win.  Gabe Pruitt learned a lot just from being around this team.  He could be a hidden gem at the backup point guard position next year. year point guard.

3.  Free Agent Destination – Last year a few coveted free agents (notably Posey, PJ Brown, and Sam Cassell) chose to come to Boston, even though they might have been able to squeeze a few more dollars out of other teams.  If Ainge thought he had good choices to pick from last year, he might find free agents lined up around the block this year.  I don’t know who that will end up being this year, when you can have your pick of the lot, it helps you find the right mix.  I never knew much about Eddie House before he came to town, but he was a great fit.  Expect at least a few fresh faces accepting the veteran minimum to help fill out the roster.

The window of opportunity for this core group was never going to be too wide.  They need to focus on winning now.  Year one was a huge success.  Year two presents another golden opportunity to further the tradition of banners.  Danny is already hard at work trying to make the most of that opportunity.  I can’t wait to see what he comes up with.  Let’s do it again!  Drive for 18!

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Nice overview Jeff, but one comment was a “reach”. I’m referring to the suggestion that Gabe Pruitt might prove to be a gem at the backup PG position. I wish it were so but Gabe’s game just doesn’t lend itself to the PG position. He has so many flaws in his approach to the position that it will take years (maybe never) before he becomes adequate at the position.

Gabe could function as an athletic (but undersized) SG because of his silky stroke and developing crossover move to the basket. His handles should continue to improve and perhaps he may one day even be able to create his own shot.

As a rated first round talent (presumably at the PG position) Gabe has been a disappointment. Ainge admitted that he didn’t think Gabe would fall to us and that Gabe wasn’t heavily scouted. Contrast his development with that of Detroit’s Stuckey, a player he was presumably rated with in predraft reports.

by moskqq on Jun 23, 2008 5:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Contrast his development with that of Detroit’s Stuckey, a player he was presumably rated with in predraft reports.

I’d like to know which are those “predraft reports” you’re mentioning. I followed all the mock drafts and draft web pages thoughout his last seson in college and none of them had him rated so high. He was considered a likely second round pick, maybe at the end of the first round. You cannot compare him to Stuckey, whose draft stock was much higher and it was rumored he had a promise from the Pistons way before draft night. Moreover, is yet to be seen if Stuckey becomes a true point guard. At the moment he’s only been able to score. He did play pretty damn well in the playoffs, but his game was mostly scoring.

Also, FYI, Pruitt never played at the PG spot in his whole carreer except for his last year in college, when a teammate of his, who played the point, died tragically. In the few months he played at the PG Gabe did it admirably and proved he could have a future at that spot, but his lack of experience at that position still hurt his draft stock on draft night. Danny knows Gabe doesn’t have the experience as a true point guard, but he also knows he has the talent to become one.

by V_for_verde on Jun 23, 2008 6:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we all want posey to stay, but he is the most likely to go. i think the surprise stay will be eddie for not too much.he always has moved and he knows how good it is here, and he will be used to and doesn’t require the playing time. he’s got the miles on the tread, so less playing time keeps him in the milieu.gabe, i agree is no point but could turn out to be a smoother tony. danny will take care of the rest.

by nazzbo on Jun 23, 2008 6:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gabe isn’t a true point guard, but neither was Eddie House. If Gabe can knock down open jumpers, he can help spread the floor. I think he’s good enough to get the ball over half court. As a backup I don’t think you need to ask too much of him. I also don’t think you can condemn him for not making more progress this year. After a certain point, we couldn’t waste time developing him except in the D-League (where I believe he played well).

Granted, he might be just another 2nd rounder that doesn’t pan out. But I don’t think you can write him off yet. So he still COULD be a hidden gem. So I stand by my statement. :)

by Jeff Clark on Jun 23, 2008 7:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and by the way, Gabe is the least important thing we have to worry about this offseason

or perhaps worry is too strong a word, but you know what I mean

we’ve got Posey to resign, free agents to pick from (including our own), and a draft night

the only thing I haven’t mentioned yet is trades – I see it as unlikely that we’ll do anything major, but a minor deal involving Big Baby or Leon Powe and perhaps even Brian Scalabrine’s contract wouldn’t be totally out of the question

I love Baby and Leon, but they do sort of duplicate each other

by Jeff Clark on Jun 23, 2008 7:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Ray is super fit and he always talks about his “legs” shooting from them and feeling good, in that respect I don’t think we have to worry about him in pure spot up role – at least not in the short term, he is still driving and looking to finish around the rim.

Keeping Poze is a must and I hope we hold onto Powe, I am hoping we draft a Big to develop under Clifford Ray and help Perk out in the middle.

by mec1 on Jun 23, 2008 7:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah, if Roy Hibbert can slip to us, I’ll be giddy, but any 7 footer with a hint of talent would be great to pick up and develop

by Jeff Clark on Jun 23, 2008 7:50 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think it’s way too soon to say Gabe has been a disappointment. He was a 2nd round pick for a championship team..if he was on a bad team, he would have played a hell of a lot more and we would know more about him. With that said, I’m expecting him to be a fairly regular contributor by mid-season. It will take time to work him in, just as it took time to work in Powe (another 2nd round pick) this past season.

by ChiefDK on Jun 23, 2008 7:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: James Posey—-I don’t think the C’s win this championship without Posey. To maximize the effect and the monetary committment to PP, RA, KG I think they need to pay Posey a fair salary indicative of his worth (maybe more if that’s what’s needed to keep him here). In the past, owners wouldn’t shell out the dollars for a guy who gave everything. Being fair to Posey makes the team better and shows other players that if you come to Boston with a short contract and give of yourself you’ll be rewarded. Part of the money can be gained by limiting the roster again to 13 players, maybe even 12.

by TrueGreen on Jun 23, 2008 8:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Strictly sticking to the “rumor” mill, Gabe Pruitt was rumored to have had a PROMISE (or an encouragement) from Detroit but when Stuckey became available, Pruitt was passed over. Whether Pruitt actually had the PROMISE is questionable because we didn’t hear too much fussing about it post draft.

Re Verde, I too read the predraft reports and even the Celtic’s commentary about Pruitt as their selection. Pruitt was considered a late first round predraft talent (at least in some mock drafts) and was considered as such when drafted by the Celtics.

Re Jeff, Pruitt enjoyed moderate success at the PG position in college, not so much because of his skill at PG but rather because of his size and superior athleticism (which weren’t enough at the NBA level). Pruitt lacks the mindset and basic fundamentals for the PG position but his size, athleticism and silky stroke are tempting. Perhaps I envision the PG position as something MORE than bringing the ball past midcourt…perhaps more in the nature of a “General” directing the action and setting the table for his teammates, a quality Gabe was lacking. Perhaps too I expect a “gem” to be able to penetrate off the dribble to disrupt interior coverages and create open looks for his teammates. As you say, we do have more important issues for the upcoming season!

by moskqq on Jun 23, 2008 8:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i’ve a feeling ainge is angling for zo’ to come in and replace pollard.

if pj is retiring, then we draft an nba ready center. if not, we draft a euro.

by laswoosh on Jun 23, 2008 8:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

if we can get zo’ at minimum, i think it is safe to throw the entire mid exception to posey.

have our 1st round and 2nd round picks replace whoever among cassel, house, tonyallen and pj brown does not stick around.

by laswoosh on Jun 23, 2008 8:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The re-signing of Posey is essential not only for his value as a Celtic but the value he would give a Cle or Det’s roster would tilt the balance in their favor. Outside of Poz, I think Eddie’s coming back he’s been a journeyman that finally got his ring and isn’t going to leave this situation. Another big in the FA market would be a great addition especially a healthy Mourning to spell Perk. Imagine the defense this team could put out there with Mourning/KG/Perk in the middle. Would need to find some offense to play the 4/5 off the bench though, that’s one thing PJ had that Mourning doesn’t.

by 12417 on Jun 23, 2008 8:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i find it laughable that were completly dismissing pruitt because stuckys already good.

this is a kid the celtics are quite high on, and i expect he’ll get every chance to win a gaurd spot this year.

by crownsy on Jun 23, 2008 9:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A conversation with my 4-year old after his swim lesson Sunday morning…

I had given him a quarter to get a gumball afterwards.
He wanted purple, but green came out and he said ‘green, just like the Celtics’.

A few minutes into the ride, I asked ’how’s that gumball?’

He replied ‘it tastes like the Celtics’.

Laughing I asked ’that’s funny, how do they taste’?

‘Nice and sweet’, he said.

by mcpu40 on Jun 23, 2008 10:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that kid is a genius ;D

by Jeff Clark on Jun 23, 2008 10:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

From Pruitt’s profile at Draftexpress.com:

Lost in the shuffle a bit between the terrific play of Nick Young and Taj Gibson has been the emergence of Gabe Pruitt as a legitimate point guard for USC. Pruitt did an excellent job helping his team building up a big lead on North Carolina in the first 28 minutes of the game, but like all of his teammates, could not pick up the slack once the Tar Heel locomotive got rolling with 12 minutes to go.

In terms of the point guard battle, it wouldn’t be a stretch to say that Pruitt outplayed the more highly regarded Ty Lawson for the most part tonight. He got torched by his first step on a number of occasions like almost everyone who tries to stay in front of him does, but countered by giving him a bit of his own medicine as well thanks to his own terrific ball-handling skills and quickness. Pruitt is a very flashy guy in terms of type of moves he can execute with the ball in his hands, but he also has a nice array of fakes and hesitation moves he can go to to open up the defense and find teammates on the drive and dish.

Pruitt did a very solid job running USC’s half-court offense tonight, particularly with the way he executed on the pick and roll with Taj Gibson and Nick Young. He delivered crisp, unselfish passes to his teammates exactly where they wanted the ball, but unfortunately the Trojans could not knock down their shots in the 2nd half to finish off the game. Pruitt played a part in that as well, going 1-6 from behind the 3-point line and getting too passive down the stretch when his team needed him most. Fatigue seemed to play an issue here.

Beyond being well on his way to making a successful transformation from the shooting guard position to the lead guard role, Pruitt has also made some big strides defensively under Tim Floyd. Texas’ D.J. Augustin would surely agree with that statement after the way he was shut down in the 2nd round, and Pruitt made a number of big plays against the Tar Heels as well. Two terrific steals on UNC in-bounds plays after a Trojan made basket were the highlights here, showing outstanding anticipation and smarts to go along with his excellent wingspan and quickness.

This piece describes the way Gabe played the last time he faced real competition (assuming that the majority of time the D-League is a joke). It was his last game in the 2007 NCAA tournament. Given the fact that he had almost no experience playing at the point when he went to the tournament, such a growth in such a short period of time should make us optimistic, don’t you think? Besides, when training camp started in Rome, Danny was asked which player had been the most pleasant surprise during the summer, and he answered that Gabe had player very well as a point guard much sooner than he expected (not too bad considering that he expected him to be the player with the most upside in the whole 2nd round).

Regarding Pruitt’s draft stock, you can compare the evolution of his “predraft status” with that of Stuckey and see that they were rated in a different level all year long (2006-2007 season):

Gabe: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Gabe-Pruitt-384/mock-draft-history/

Stuckey: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Rodney-Stuckey-1015/mock-draft-history/

As you can see, Gabe was projected to be picked in the 60’s for most of the year, while Stuckey was always considered a top-25 draft pick.

Moskqq, don’t get me wrong. I just want Pruitt to develop without too much pressure. If you say that Stuckey and Pruiit were regarded in the same level before the draft, you’re creating high (unfair) expectations on him. I can already hear someone calling him a bust after his first bad game of the next season.

by V_for_verde on Jun 23, 2008 11:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If we lose Posey (and I really hope we don’t), I would love to see us make a run at Quintin Ross. He’s an unrestricted free agent. Simmons always raved about Ross as being Bruce Bowen 2.0. Sounds like the right fit to me.

by ShakersJacobson on Jun 23, 2008 12:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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