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Good Prognosis For One LA Franchise Point Guard

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Of course, it's his own prognosis.  But it is some good news nonetheless.

And -- gotcha! -- it isn't for the Los Angeles team that is currently preparing for a Finals match-up with our beloved Boston Celtics.

Nope, this good news is for Shaun Livingston, the one-time fourth overall pick and supposed franchise point guard for the little brother Clippers.

According to the OC Register's Art Thompson III, Livingston says that he expects to be back on the basketball court this month.   Though he may just be playing pick-up, this is critical for his future, as the Clips have until the end of the month to extend a $5.8 million qualifying offer to him.  If they decline to do so, he'll hit the open market as an unrestricted free agent this summer.

It's unfortunate to think that thanks to Livingston's actual level of production during his time on the court and the health concerns that have kept him off it, withholding the offer may well be the way the Clippers choose to go, and it may be a reasonable choice at that.  But from a purely sentimental standpoint, given the wringer this 22-year-old has been through with injuries, and given his unique physique and potential, here's hoping (from at least one non-partisan fan) that the Clips give the youngster one more shot.

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Statistically, the former high school player from Peoria, Ill., hasn't blown any doors off with his productivity.  In his three active seasons, he has compiled averages of 7.4 points and 4.8 assists in 27.2 minutes per game while shooting just 44 percent from the field, 23 percent from deep and 71 percent from the line.  Not too impressive.  Nor is the fact that he has never played more than 61 games in a season.  Sounds a lot like the sort of player yours truly would generally be inclined to give up on altogether.

But I can't do it with this kid.  Perhaps I'm finally getting sucked into the age-old trap about the value of potential, but I really want to believe that Shaun Livingston is special.

At 6-foot-7 and 182 pounds, Livingston has an incredibly rare body type at the point.  He has the size to post up anyone he matches up with at his position, and that height advantage provides the offenses he runs with a built-in versatility.  Livingston can create from the top like a traditional point guard, or his team can feature him in the low post and let his teammates work off him.  We've seen the same in the past from Jason Kidd, except that Livingston is three inches taller and has the capability to become a far better scorer than Kidd has been over the years.  His ability to see over opposing defenders adds passing lanes galore into his sight lines, and Livingston has already shown in flashes before that he is gifted with his own pretty brand of passing vision.   In addition, prior to the injury, Livingston never lacked for quickness either.  Get in the lane with ease, post up, thread the needle in any variety of ways: The youngster has long had the tools to do it all.

One of the big questions has always been Livingston's shooting, but he had begun to make progress in that area in 2006-07, his first season as a semi-regular starter (31 starts in 54 appearances).  He shot career highs of 46.3 percent from the field and 31.3 percent from deep.  Not overly impressive, but a major step forward from prior career bests of 42.7 and 12.5 percent respectively.  Though his individual numbers weren't gaudy by any stretch, Livingston showed signs of becoming much more comfortable as a professional court general and at times really looked to be settling into the offense.  He had his share of nights on which he appeared to be a soon-to-be-budding star, including a dominant 14-point, 14-assist performance (on 6-of-11 shooting, no less) in a victory over Golden State just two nights before the injury that ended his season.

Speaking of injuries, Livingston's last one was particularly ugly, and it's for that reason that we've chosen not to embed the clip right here.  In short, he landed awkwardly on a fast break.  His knee bent in a way it wasn't built to bend, and just about anything and everything inside that could have been absolutely decimated was.  It cost him the back end of the 2006-07 season and the whole of this past campaign.  One can only imagine the sort of work Livingston must have had to do in order to get back anywhere close to playing shape, and it seems difficult not to be rooting for him to experience success in his return to the floor.

Shaun Livingston didn't live up to his potential in his first three professional seasons, and his health didnt either.  But he is still just 22 years old and in possession of an incredible set of physical gifts.  If he can regain full health, he'll have plenty of time to turn into that difference-maker the Clippers believed they were getting when they drafted him in 2004.

For the sake of the enjoyment of basketball observers everywhere, here's hoping Shaun Livingston does just that.

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thanks for the positivity towards my fav team in the LA area…I think giving SL a one year deal to prove himself is not a bad deal…I’d like to pick up a 2 or combo guard via draft or trade just for insurance…
I know the Cs will take a page from the Pistons and surprise the Lakers (and put to rest the bandwagon-flag-waving Laker fans over here) by beating them in 6!

by Lawlers Law on Jun 3, 2008 2:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Steve,

Great job! Best wishes for the kid. I remember when he was the rage and there was no trade package deemed good enough to acquire Livingston.

by celty86 on Jun 3, 2008 5:27 AM EDT reply actions  

If I’m the Clippers, I hope Livingston can be effective, but his durability will always be a question. He’s uet to play a full season, he’s thin as a rail, 6’7" and obviously injury prone.

He reminds me of Tony Allen in a weird way. Who knows if they can ever get their game back?

by LuckyNumber07 on Jun 3, 2008 5:37 AM EDT reply actions  

You know why I refuse to give up on Livingston? Because in his years in the NBA I can’t recall one story about him being caught smoking pot or beating a woman or doing anything that makes headlines. I DO recall, however, the fact that he’s done everything he can to rehab from his injury and root for his team. Mind you, this taking so long isn’t his idea; were it up to him, he’d have been back out there months ago, but the Clippers wisely told him to take it slow.

Can he come back from this injury? I don’t know. It was ridiculously gruesome, that’s for sure. But I want him to, even if he’s never going to be an All-Star, because he deserves a hell of a chance to. I mean, he could potentially have 15 more years of his career left if he comes back, given his age.

by BUTerrier on Jun 3, 2008 7:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Livingston had a bucket load of problems with his game before he went down. He is a pass first player but he’s not a floor general. He has great vision but he can’t run their offense. That’s why LA struggled so much when they tried giving him more of Cassell’s minutes. His defense on wings was very good but his D on point guards was consistently suspect. They were smaller and quicker than himself and that caused him problems. His jump shot is still a work in progress. Has good size but not a post game. Very passive offensively.

There’s just an awful lot of development left for this kid even if he can recover from injury.

I can’t see the Clippers using their option. I do expect them to re-sign Livingston in Free Agency though on a one year deal.

The best part of Shaun Livingston? He could give them a lot of advatanges in choosing a shooting guard. They can draft a smaller player like Eric Gordon and make the matchups work defensively.

Hopefully he gets back healthy, hopefully he then becomes the player he once projected to be.

by Who on Jun 3, 2008 7:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Steve, you write well, but might not be old enough to know first-hand about a particular old expression. In your fifth paragraph, you said Livingston had been put through the “ringer.” You used this expression quite correctly, but actually it’s “wringer”, as in a wringer washing machine.

The wringer was a vertical pair of rubber coated rollers over the opened top of the washing machine, and which rotated in opposite directions. While washing clolthes, you’d grab a wet piece of clothing from the tub and stick it in between the rolls. The wringer rolls would then pass the thing through, squeezing or “wringing” out much of the water.

I’m in my fifties, and my mom was the last person I ever heard of who used such a machine to do the family’s washing. But then, she’s never got over the Great Depression.

Also, since you’re a writer, you’ll be glad to know the wringer washer also derived another highly useful expression. When someone would screw up, you’d say, “they caught their * (prominent part of the female anatomy) in the wringer.”

There. Now you’re all set.

by no kidding on Jun 3, 2008 8:00 AM EDT reply actions  

no kidding,

Yeesh…looks like I forgot a letter on that one — don’t know what I was thinking when I wrote it. Much thanks for both the historical context and entertaining explanation….and for catching me on this one. I’ve since updated it. Thanks again for being here to keep me honest ;)

-sw

by Steve Weinman on Jun 3, 2008 8:11 AM EDT reply actions  

mr. livingston, i presume…hopefully he gets found. bball is a tough game on the joints.

by nazzbo on Jun 3, 2008 10:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Who’s the most successful post-Magic tall point guard? Penny Hardaway for a few years? I don’t know. Don’t most eventually end up playing the bulk of their minutes at the two, often with the time spent at the point a detriment to their development? Maybe due to the difficulty most have staying in front of quicker players versus the comparatively meager offensive advantage. Having a shaky jump shot is almost prerequisite to joining the club, so a high release is less of a boon than it might otherwise be; and establishing a point guard on the low block is classic law of diminishing returns. I’m thinking of guys like Marko Jaric and Larry Hughes. But even Joe Johnson gave coaches and GMs the wrong idea early on.

by The Walker Wiggle on Jun 3, 2008 3:03 PM EDT reply actions  

  • Shaun Livingston: After a devastating knee injury sidelined him for nearly a year and a half, Livingston has been cleared to play one-on-one under monitored conditions.

However, he is still unable to play full court with contact and there are concerns from the organization on whether he is healed enough to withstand the rigors of an NBA season. The Clippers will bypass giving Livingston a $5.8-million qualifying offer due July 1, making him an unrestricted free agent.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-clippers26-2008jun26,0,5859088.story

Cap space notwithstanding, if there was a way to pick him up at a minimum deal for 2-3yrs and see if he can come back could be a steal.

by 12417 on Jun 26, 2008 10:19 AM EDT reply actions  

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