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It takes me a while to read through Bill's articles, so you'll excuse me if I'm just seeing this now.  It seems like Simmons is actually giving Doc Rivers some credit!   And it only took till we were up 2-0 in the Finals. Actually, in truth, this is about as backhanded as you can get with compliments, with qualifiers at every turn.  Still, I thought it was worth noting.

For all the grief that Doc Rivers has taken (and yes, I'm one of the grief-givers), he has gotten better throughout the playoffs. Other than the ongoing House/Cassell tragedy (don't get me started), I haven't disagreed with anything Rivers did in the Lakers or Pistons series except for burying Leon Powe against Detroit, which was inexplicable at the time and seems twice as perplexing after what happened Sunday night (21 points, two roof-shaking dunks). I thought Rivers coached the best game of his career in Game 2, calling timeouts at the right times, shortening his rotation, making the right adjustments and even keeping an on-fire Rajon Rondo (16 assists) in the game for the entire second half. I didn't disagree with a single move, except for playing Cassell, who is obviously blackmailing him, so we'll let it slide. As I've written in the past, I'm a big believer in "getting reps" in life, whether it's speaking in public, driving a race car, performing in a porn movie, coaching a basketball team or whatever. Maybe Doc just needed to get some playoff reps in. I keep telling myself this.

Perhaps Doc will end world hunger someday, and maybe then Bill will learn to forgive and forget.  Till then, winning two more games will have to do.

In other "worldwide leader" news, Marc Stein isn't letting people feel sorry for the Lakers.  Good times.

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I agree with Simmons. Doc has shown a lot of improvement, starting towards the end of the Cleveland series. That said, leaving Powe and Eddie on the pine in favor of BBD and Cassell has been inexcusable. Doc has finally come around on Powe, now he just needs to drop Sam and promote Eddie.

by Roy_Hobbs on Jun 9, 2008 6:07 PM EDT reply actions  

and I agree with Roy who agrees with Simmons. More Eddie to go with Powe.

by CoachCowens on Jun 9, 2008 6:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree with Simmons. But Doc has a way of keeping one on the edge of their seat.

by satch on Jun 9, 2008 6:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Why is every one making such a big deal over fouls in game two? We got 21 and they got called for 28. Is that such a huge difference?

by liam on Jun 9, 2008 6:32 PM EDT reply actions  

One thing I didn’t like about Doc in Game 2 was during the collapse, Michelle Tafoya reported, he was telling the players that he wasn’t worried about Game 2 but he didn’t want to give the Lakers hope for Game 3. Then he comes out in the post game press conference blaming the players for blowing the lead and getting “cute”. How about taking some of that blame yourself Doc when you’ve already told your team they’ve got this game won and you’re looking ahead. That wasn’t exactly instilling a sense of urgency they needed at that moment.

by PlayRyanGomes on Jun 9, 2008 6:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Other than that I agree with Simmons. The only problem is the House/Cassell decision is so egregious I still have my doubts about Doc’s decision making.

by PlayRyanGomes on Jun 9, 2008 6:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I wanna curse. So badly I wanna curse.

I’ve already made my feelings clear on B.S. (the latter is what he is and the term together is what he is full of . . ). It was BS who whined, cried, and threw a temper tantrum to bring Cassell on the team, and now that he’s hear it’s somehow Glenn’s fault that he’s gotten play time. If Doc had not been playing Sam you can bet your bottom dollar that BS would be writing how Doc was unaware of how to use such a great talent . . .

I am sick of BS and his BS.

What goes around comes around and BS will be getting his.

by tmcdon on Jun 9, 2008 6:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t see why everyone gets agida over this guy. Who cares? Except that the two points you mention I, like others above, agree….what/why was Leon nailed to the bench vs Detroit and what has Sam done to beat out Eddie.
I’ve been a long time Doc supporter on this blog but those two things do make you scratch your head.

by Wildblu1 on Jun 9, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

tmcdon, you’re allowed to change your mind. If you had polled this site I bet at least 80% of us would have voted that we wanted Cassell on the team before he was signed. After we’ve seen that it hasn’t worked out and that he completely kills the flow of the team, most of those people who were in favor of the move(including myself) want him on the bench.

As soon as we saw that Cassell didn’t fit, he should have been on the bench in favor of House. Just for the simple fact that Eddie’s entrance gets the crowd ridiculously fired up should give him a huge edge.

You just sound like people of a certain political affiliation in 2004 who insisted “flip-flopping” was high treason. People are allowed to change their mind about things, get over yourself.

by putinrondo on Jun 9, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions  

its funny how the doc bashers have disappeared on or have begrudging given little credit w/ foolish qualifying phrases.

shown improvement?

thats a joke that says more about you than anything to do with a coach that has won 80 games in 1 season.

by lefty12 on Jun 9, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

We are two wins away from the finals. It takes until that for Simmons to say that Doc’s coaching has been…“better.”

Not the 66 wins during the regular season. Not the excellent record against the Western Conference. Not the 7-2 while Kevin Garnett was out. Not just getting out of the first, second and third rounds. It takes until the Celtics are up 2-0 (and after numerous ridiculous anti-Doc comments) that Simmons says (with qualifying comments) Doc has improved…throughout the playoffs. Incredible.

by soap07 on Jun 9, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

I really liked this article, but mostly for the stuff he said about Boston since that’s where I live.

by orrzor on Jun 9, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Continuing to pile on Doc about the House/Cassell and more so the Powe/Davis decisions, shows a limited understanding of what went into those decisions. It is easy to say after Leon’s recent performance that that proves he should have been playing all along. But the Lakers provide different matchups, they are soft inside(Luke Walton looked like a boy trying to guard Leon) and are a perfect fit for Leon’s talents.

What the average fan seems to miss, or can only hear it from Doc since they can’t see it and don’t believe him, is that Leon has been slow at times to pick up the defensive rotations, missing assignments that break down a whole possession. The Celts D does not work if there is a single missed rotation, so if there is a guy consistently doing that it is tough to keep him on the floor. Most fans don’t notice or care about this, they only count one side of the ball, or the sheer hustle Leon brings, which is great, but all out hustle without thought, isn’t always the best recipe. Leon has also had a difficult time with the Celts offensive sets, another potential liability when he is on the floor. Fans only see, “Leon hustles” and want him out there doing that, missing out on the things he is not doing correctly that can be as damaging as the hustle is helpful.

For some teams, the interior toughness can outweigh those other things, in other games, not as much. This inconsistency is the reason Doc has not just handed Leon a rotation spot, but has rather picked and chosen where Leon’s particular assets will pay off enough to offset his liabilities. Deciding to play BBD over Leon against Detroit, has nothing to do with who plays against LA, and Leon had not shown he could perform all facets of his role, not just the hustle plays, enough to trust him on the floor at certain times, against certain teams and matchups.

Criticize Doc all you want, but at least be informed about the whole picture, not just reacting to the eye-popping, easy to see plays.

by KJ33 on Jun 9, 2008 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

i am not a big doc-man, but so far, so good.the apex was his sermon to the crew when pp went down. he has been very focused and on top of things.

by nazzbo on Jun 10, 2008 6:28 AM EDT reply actions  

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