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poseyfloor1.jpgAnother day, another Posey update that doesn't really tell us much new.

Bulpett reports:

Posey’s representative, Mark Bartelstein, said he hoped to have something done within 48 hours.  But when asked if that was with the Celts or another team, he replied, "I honestly don’t know."

The Celtics would still love to have Posey, and according to league sources they are willing to spend the full mid-level exception, announced Tuesday as $5.585 million. But, despite talk elsewhere that they were ready to do the fourth year, the C’s still appear to be trying to hold the line on that.

But with the marketplace shrinking, they may not have a choice if they want to keep him. That’s assuming Posey and Bartelstein give the Celtics a chance to match if they get a better offer elsewhere.

So are they willing to add a fourth year or not?  We now have conflicting reports.

It seems like many of the top free agents on the market are finding homes.  Posey might be the best one left.  For a while now, we've know who the suitors are.  At least San Antonio seems to be out of the mix having signed Roger Mason Jr. last night.  For fun, lets look at the rest:

  • Cleveland Cavs - Posey is from Cleveland and James might want some more big game help, but do they really need another defensive guy?  Fans are getting anxious for Ferry to make a move, so they'll give Posey a long look.
  • Washington Wizards - They desperately need a whole new defensive mindset but lost out on Tom Thibbodeau when he decided to come to Boston.  Will they try to plug Posey in and hope he solves their defensive woes?  With Arenas around, don't count on a full team commitment to stops.
  • New Orleans Hornets - One of the top regular season teams from a year ago could benefit from a guy that has 2 rings.
  • Detroit Pistons - Dumars is always looking for quality guys and Posey would fit right in on the Bad Boys.  Of course they are also thinking of blowing things up and seem willing to deal anyone.
  • LA Lakers - Two games away from winning an NBA title but unimpressive in the Finals, the Lakers are looking for answers.  They are just desperate enough to throw the whole MLE at someone they think would help (they did it with Walton).
I may be forgetting a team or two but this seems to be the list as of today. I'm not sure who would be willing to go 4 years for Posey but my money is on the Lakers and Cavs.  They seem the most desperate.

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Posey might be the best one left.

That’s a very big understatement.

by cordobes on Jul 10, 2008 5:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Give him what he wants it’s not like it’s an untradeable contract if we decide to rebuild later on down the line.

by Yakmanev on Jul 10, 2008 6:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If Posey moves on over a fourth year – big if, admittedly – then the question arises: Is ownership satsified with one title with this group.

Their commitment to further titles will fall under question.

by CoachBo on Jul 10, 2008 6:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think we should sign him and that will help the C’have a better chance for the 18th championship. If the C’s do not sign him maybe we should sign Pietrus and or Barnes. If that does not happen it seems spending 60 million for the 3 players might not work next year to win it all. The C’s best chance due to age of the players is next year to win it all. You need similar players as the C’s had this year.

Top 9 players in the Playoffs

Ray, KG, Paul, Rondo, Perk, Posey, Powe, PJ and House.

Next year we have.

Ray, KG, Paul, Rondo, Perk, Powe, Davis, Scal and Pruitt. Free Agent – Big Man signing? Giddens and Walker

by CelticsWin on Jul 10, 2008 6:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pietrus is off the table to Orlando.

by CoachBo on Jul 10, 2008 6:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’ve been an advocate of retaining Posey no matter what the cost, but I’m having second thoughts. I think Bartelstein has overplayed his hand; he says his client wants to sign “righ away” yet every day he has a new and expanded list of teams that might be interested. I think he’s blowing alot of smoke. For starters, the alleged front runners in the Posey sweepstakes— the Lakers and Cavs— have luxury tax problems next year that are even more serious than Boston’s.

Cleveland’s situation is wacky. Two years from now they have a commmitment to exactly one player— LeBron James— and that’s only if he exercises his player option. If he doesn’t, the Cavs will be just like an expansion franchise with zero players under contract.

If Posey leaves the sun will still rise. KG, Pierce and Allen will still be here, and there are plenty of useful players who could be obtained (or retained) with that MLE. Maybe if Posey leaves, the Celtics can afford better players at the backup center and point guard positions.

I’m getting sick of the whole thing.

by Brickowski on Jul 10, 2008 6:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree that Posey doesn’t have the offer he wants elsewhere. If he did he’d already be gone.

It’d be really nice when this Posey situation finally comes to a close. It’s tiresome.

Plus I’m very curious about Eddie and I’d like some more news on what they’re doing to secure him.

by Who on Jul 10, 2008 6:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

when I wrote that, I didn’t have time to check ESPN to see the top ranked free agents – you could make the case that a lot of restricted free agents are better than Posey, but even Chad Ford only ranks Kurt Thomas ahead of Posey on the unrestricted list and I would tend to question that – especially due to his age

by Jeff Clark on Jul 10, 2008 7:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Posey is a huge thing for this summer….he’s the only $$$ we’d spend this summer except min type stuff…..next year we have $22mil in ending contracts and TONS of teams looking to clear cap space for the following year…Danny will be a kid in a candy store just cherry picking at that point..we’ve got 3 guys for the next 5 yrs-Rondo,KG&Paul,everyone else is expendable if need be

by Motown on Jul 10, 2008 7:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s odd. I’m still mostly in favor of offering Posey four years. (Heck, it’s not my money.) But strangely, the longer it drags out, the less I care. And I can see that sentiment is building on this blog. Perhaps Posey and his agent are playing it all wrong. And maybe Ainge is a lot more shrewd than most of us.

by no kidding on Jul 10, 2008 7:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Steady…steady. 3 years at full MLE is a good deal and no one is going to offer him 5 years because all this cap stuff applies to other teams too. Will someone offer him a 4th year? Probably. Will Bartelstein give the C’s a chance to match. Probably (We don’t just like Posey. Posey likes the C’s). Should Danny match?…Sorry, Danny that’s above my pay grade. Good luck. Because he was a game changer in some key games this year doesn’t mean that you can’t find a young up-and-comer (like maybe in your own stable – T.Allen, rookies) to commit to the same (or nearly same) playing style. But, he was so very key to the chemistry.
It is very interesting how money is boxing in a lot of the moves. Let’s not get boxed in any more than we are already.

by Wildblu1 on Jul 10, 2008 7:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

From where I sit, the names Tony Allen and James Posey should never be used in the same sentence.

 ;D

by CoachBo on Jul 10, 2008 7:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Who said:
  I agree that Posey doesn’t have the offer he wants elsewhere. If he did he’d already be gone.

Maybe Posey does have an offer, but doesn’t really want to play for that team. Maybe he’s hoping the Celtics will match or at least come close. It’s no secret that he does want to be a Celtic, but he also wants to get every dime he can from the team he most wants to play for.

by Bankshot on Jul 10, 2008 7:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nah I don’t think so. Not unless he got a new offer in the last 24 hours.

If he did get another firm offer elsewhere, then Posey would have his agent call Danny with the details. Danny would say whether he could match or not and then he’d make his best offer. Then we’d have a decision one way or the other from Posey shortly after. It wouldn’t take that long, Posey and his agent will have already talked through everything prior to the offer. It’s a quick decision. Posey has been in this free agency spell for how long now? 10 days is it? He doesn’t have the offer.

I’m sure Posey has a tremendous amount of interest in him from several teams but I doubt how strong some of those team’s interest is and how large an offer they’re willing to make. If there was a large offer on the table this story would be over by now.

by Who on Jul 10, 2008 7:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it feels like we’ve been poseying around for months. i agree if the deal is there he’d be on it. he’s shopping-don’t blame him. i hope we buy and let’s get on with the rest.

by nazzbo on Jul 10, 2008 8:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ainge should give Posey a deadline. If Posey doesn’t sign by then, Ainge goes shopping elsewhere.

by Brickowski on Jul 10, 2008 9:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’ll be the Lakers would like to drive up the price for Posey so the Cs will have to overpay.

by The Real Large James on Jul 10, 2008 9:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

For the Celtics, I guess no Posey news is good news cause that means that there’s no new worthwhile offer on the table to harp about. I’m having the same sentiment with the other posters here, the longer this drama lasts the more I lose interest in this story. I just hope they get it over and done with quickly. Frankly, Posey is in no position to demand a long term deal and he knows it. He would have to settle with a short term deal sooner or later. If Posey stays, well and good. But if he leaves, I sure won’t lose sleep over it.

With that said, I’m glad I’m not in Ainge’s shoes right now.

by Celtic_E on Jul 10, 2008 9:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Brickowski said:
  Ainge should give Posey a deadline. If Posey doesn’t sign by then, Ainge goes shopping elsewhere.

I think Danny is unbelievably patient in these things. It would drive me nuts. If Pose doesn’t come here there isn’t a player like him to shop elsewhere for. He’s just a great fit on this team. I think this will be settled in a day or so.

by TrueGreen on Jul 10, 2008 9:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just think. If Posey signs a 5-year deal with Cleveland and LeBron leaves, Posey will be spending the last three years of his deal as the veteran leader of a 25-win expansion team.

by Brickowski on Jul 10, 2008 10:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Seriously, are we really going to base all of our hopes/plans for #18 on James Posey? I’ve been thinking about this and as much as I’ll miss the pre-game hugs, great D, and timely 3’s I think we’ll be fine.

Like Pierce says if Posey goes to another team, Posey now is guarding Paul. I’ll take Paul in that match up any day of the week.

Also, Thib developed a defensive scheme that contained Kobe ‘best player on the planet’ Bryant. I think Thib can do the same for James Posey?

I wish him well if he’s seeking more money, but not particularly worried at all about this.

by teaguelife on Jul 10, 2008 11:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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