Point Guards and Big Men

1. Kurt Thomas, Spurs: He’s 35 years old but still tough enough to help just about any title contender. The Spurs got him in a steal of a deal at the trade deadline. Look for them to try to lock him up with a three-year deal this summer.

This is why I can’t understand people thinking that Posey shouldn’t get a 4 year deal because he won’t be productive at 35. There are plenty of examples of players still very productive at 35 and seeing that Posey will not be playing starters minutes, I see no reason why he can’t be productive in year 4 of his deal. PJ Brown did a great job defensively and he was 39!

Posey 4 years at the full MLE if that’s what it takes.

On point guards, one name that isn’t mentioned that I like is White Chocolate. He has size, can handle the ball and has championship experience.

On big men I like Kurt Thomas or Alonzo. Don’t really like anyone else. I guess the Birdman will do as well.

Eddie House is the best option amongst those low pay point guards

The bigs … yeah I don’t know what to make of that. Elson is my preferred choice but it’s not a great pool. I’d like someone with more size than Kurt Thomas which is why I veer away from him, but it’s not a deal breaker. I’d be very happy with Kurt.

Good points, Bankshot. Couldn’t agree more.

I forgot to mention Eddie House. I wouldn’t mind having him back.

I wouldn’t mind Anthony Johnson at backup PG…good size, decent shooter, good playmaker. Might be more costly than Lue, though, and he’s older; would he take some or all of the LLE?

Frankly I’d much rather Jackie Butler than anyone like Kwame Brown. He could probably be had for the minimum, too. Brezec would be interesting, but I wouldn’t want to depend on him, given how he’s coming back from injury.

Jeff, Antoine Wright isn’t a big.

I’d rather take House or Bones over any of those pure PGs. Mourning won’t leave Miami, so I’d go with Thomas, but I believe the Spurs will keep him. Other than that, they are pretty much the same – our best hope is to bring PJ back in March. I don’t think the Birdman fits our needs very well. He’s what – 230lbs? Oh, and he was is Milwakee for the last 2 days, so perhaps some of us are reading too much in his visit to Boston…

Looking at the numbers, anyone know what the hell happened to Primoz Brezec? Jef was right that he used to have a pulse, when he was with Charlotte back in 05-06 he was averaging right around 12/6, then last year he went from Charlotte to Detroit to Toronto, and could barely crack 2/2 in 10 min per game. Talk about hitting the wall.

Brown could be intriguing though. Duct tape him to Cliff Ray/KG for a couple of years and you could either bring out what everyone has thought of him, or have a reason why he should be out of the league. Low risk, high reward type of thing.

 Not the least bit worried about a backup point guard, they are ALWAYS available. We are ok the way we are unless of course RR took a season ending injury. But CENTER is a must. GOT TO HAVE a STRONG backup for Perk. He is too injury and foul prone. Its a must. More important then Posey. Swingmen, like PG’s are always available. Heck, PP could play PG or SG if need be.

We can’t all agree on who’d be the best center and point guard to sign from the available free agents. But regardless, whoever that pair is in your mind, would you rather spend the money and sign them, or would you rather spend about the same money on bringing back Posey?

I think I’d rather have the pick of the center and point guard free agents.

while we see what if anything is left in the kitty after the posey situation is resolved, nothing will happen in the pg-c situation. if no $ is left, we trade.

But regardless, whoever that pair is in your mind, would you rather spend the money and sign them, or would you rather spend about the same money on bringing back Posey?

I’d definitely rather have Posey

(1) Posey is better than any of the guards or bigs available

(2) The difference between the guards and bigs at the MLE and LLE is very small and fairly insignificant.[/u] There just isn’t the talent gap there this summer. It’s well worth considering most seasons but this season it isn’t there.

(3) [u]The difference between Posey at the MLE and the wings at LLE-3mil is very large and very significant.

(3) There’s only one player I think has a legit case for the MLE that’s still on the market and that’s Jannero Pargo. I’d prefer Posey. If the C’s did sign Pargo it would likely the take the MLE to prize him away from the Hornets and we’d be in the exact same situation of not having the money to sign two other positions of need.

Posey is better than any of the guards or centers available. But in terms of helping the Celtics, I don’t think he’s better than the best guard and center pair.

For instance, Roger Mason just signed with the Spurs for roughly $3.7 million a year. I’m thinking I would rather have had Mason and, say, Kwame Brown for the next three years than Posey. I can try to simulate Posey with Brown and my two rookies. But I have less options on our existing bench that approximate Mason and Brown.

Uh, naturally I meant to say, I could try to simulate Posey with Mason and my two rookies.

I think House is a better player than Roger Mason and I think House is a better backup point guard for this team than any of the remaining options (excluding possibly Pargo). The team can still sign Eddie House to a fine contract after signing James Posey with either the LLE or his non-Bird rights.

So that’s Posey and the guard spot solved.

I think the team can sign Kwame Brown on the minimum. There’s not exactly a large number of teams knocking his door down. I also think they’ve an excellent shot at nearly every unrestricted big man available in free agency at the minimum. There’s not a lot of talent there and there’s not a lot of teams lining up to pay them.

Please no Kwame Brown. I’d rather have Brezec or even Foyle.

Tyronn Lue is close to signng with Phoenix and Jason Williams and Orlando have strong interest in each other. And Kurt Thomas will be in SA unless something drastic happens.

If Ainge could give SCAL a 5 year deal, why not Posey?! ;D

Who, I hope you’re right. But I won’t be surprised if both Eddie House and Kwame Brown go eleswhere for a bit more than $1.9 million.

Besides, if Ainge had passed on Posey and signed Brown and Roger Mason, he would’ve saved money on a roster spot, and would’ve had more of an opportuntiy to see if either JR Riddens or Bill Walker can do anything for the team.

I would love to have Possey back, but what if getting him means not being able to resign a replacement for PJ Brown? Does anyone here want to count on Pollard or Scal as the backup to Perkins next year? Also, unless you can get House to take the minimum, who plays backup point?

Why not take a shot at Livingston? This guy was on his way to being Chris Paul before he got hurt. When you are a top team with established starts you can afford to throw the dice on damaged goods like Livingston. If you don’t like that idea, Kenyon Dooling would be a significant upgrade over Sam Cassell.

I love the idea of getting Tim Thomas. The guy is a warrior and would be good for 10 to 20 minutes a game to rebound, intimidate and play defense. He would also be an upgrade at that position over PJ Brown.

Wouldn’t having a solid backup point in Dooling or Livingston and backup center in Thomas be better than having Posey but no back up PG and hoping that Pollard can stay healthy at Center? I like Posey but lets be honest, the guy is not an all-star. He is just a really good bench player. And yeah good bench players are nice, but it is not like he is the only good bench player available.

Livingston would be an interesting option. But how likely is that to happen?