Kirk Snyder?

That Kirk may be coming to Boston does not surprise me in the least! Danny over the last 3-4 drafts, has been enamoured with 4 players that I can think of that he was unable to draft. The players are the following:
                Robert Swift (center)
                Kirk Snyder (shooting guard)
                Dorell Wright (small forward)
                Shaun Livingston (point guard)

So do not be surprised to see two or more of these players wearing Green next season. They are all free agents this year

Well, I like him. Kind of a replacement for Tony Allen though, not Posey. He’ll probably ride the inactive list.

I could see Snyder as a fall back option if Cs don’t land Posey. I actually have never believed the Swift rumors — even if Danny says he always has coveted Swift, I chalk it up to him wanting to smokescreen who he was really after: Al Jefferson (in other words, DA would prefer to be perceived as “lucky” than as sly and calculating).

Snyder stinks. Tony Allen is twice the player that Snyder is.

didn’t know the star tribune did sports.

Snyder is definately a cheaper option to Posey.

Not to disrespect or minimize Posey’s contributions by any means, but this new obsession with Posey is just ridiculous. He is not worth anything close to what he’s asking for, and even if he is, he’s the wrong choice for the Celtics at this point in time. IMO, the Celtics should dump pretty much all their free agents and focus on developing for the future. We wanted to win now, and we did. It’ll be nice to repeat, but there is no “fierce urgency to win now” as there was before.

It would be a tactical victory to bring back the whole team from last year, as it’ll also be somewhat of a strategic blunder in the long term. So far, I am glad to see that Danny Ainge hasn’t foolishly succumbed to “fighting the last war.” The Drive for Banner 17 was the last war, and we won.

Even without Posey, TA, and House the Celtics will be a solid team next season (it’s the potential loss of PJ I’m more concerned about).

I think it’s time to roll the dice with the young ones and see who emerges alongside Rajon Rondo. Maybe Pruitt can be the new Rondo, and who knows what Walker and Giddens might have to offer? How about Big Baby and Powe – how consistent can they be? We don’t know and we won’t know unless we give them a decent chance.

I’m just saying…

mcpu40… I agree with you, but I am willing to sacrifice a little in the short term to ensure long term dominance. Remember the 20 plus years of Celtics irrelevance prior to this year.

Let’s say we don’t get Posey, how do we know that some less prominent free agent signing or even the draftees could surprise us? If we hadn’t won this year, I wouldn’t be thinking this way. Remember when we traded for Ray and KG, people were rightly concerned about mortgaging the Cs future. Now, that concern seems to have completely vanished to be replaced by complacency of now.

I realize what I’m saying is not conventional wisdom, but so was the decision by Belichik to hand over the Patriots quarterback position to an untested, unproven, and unheralded Tom Brady which turned out to be pure genius. Danny did the same thing with Rajon Rondo this season with similar results. Next season presents us with the best chance to test that theory once again. What can Giddens do? What about Walker? Gabe’s rapid developement may negate the need for a veteran PG backup (Rondo is the new veteran PG – he was good enough to lead championship team, and he now has plenty of playoff experience to boot.

If this move doesn’t appear to be panning out, we can always make adjustments mid-season. But I think we seriously need to be looking towards the future before we become the new Pistons. I’d rather we begin blending the young with the old sooner rather than later.

I hope we don’t sign him.

Cman,

I like your smokescreeen theory on the nature of Ainge’s supposedly great interest in Robert Swift. I’ve previously considered that notion, and was happy to see someone else express it.

Yeah, in the 2004 draft, Seattle was drafting 12th and the Celtics 15th. Ainge may have correctly assessed the relative values of Jefferson and Swift, and was trying to fake out Seattle.

We can’t beat the lakers next season, they are too good. We might as well go young, we got our championship.

Next year we are the team to beat, with or without Posey. We have our starting 5 back, which includes 3 HOFers. We play in the East, which is still pretty weak. And Danny Ainge will sign some more folks that’ll help the squad. Vegas favors the Lakers because how geographically close it is to Los Angeles. All the LA money coming in to Vegas drives the odds down on the Fakers.

Champzilla, you’re kidding, right? At times, sarcasm can be hard to pick up on blogs.

ChiefDK said:
I disagree with Village Idiot. Now is not the time to give young players big minutes. I think you need to strike while the iron’s hot and go for the repeat. This doesn’t mean you can’t work the younger guys in like Pruitt and Giddens in as the season progresses, however.

CheifDK… Right on. I partially agree with you, so let me clarify my earlier comments. I am not saying the young players should be given big minutes from the get go. What I am saying is, we don’t have to pay a hefty price for Posey and other veterans at the expense of the future. The ideal alternative for me would be to sign some less prominent and cheaper players who can help (i.e. he Kirk Snyders out there), but at the same time we work the young players into the rotation since bench-warming has never been a viable path to player development.

This past season when Doc wasn’t playing Powe, Big Baby and TA enough, didn’t we all grumble, whether fairly or unfairly? But how could Doc play these guys when we had Posey, House, PJ, Cassell, etc? We were gunning for a championship, and it made sense at the time. But that fight is over, and we won. But now we ought to be looking farther than next season. I am totally in support of Danny Ainge’s “Giddens Experiment” because I think that kid is going to be phenomenal (probably Walker too, except where injury is the issue, I tend to be a bit more cautious).

Can we repeat and should we try to repeat? Absolutely! But I’m of the opinion that our “repeat” strategy must not come at the expense of the future. This team will do just fine without Posey, even better if we can quickly develop the young ones sooner rather than later.

Champilla is not kidding and is not being sarcastic. The lakers looked good last year and they missed Bynum. We won the whole enchilada because we had mainly because we had home court advantage against every team, but was obviously crucial against the Hawks and the Cavs. And as a result of our best record we hade thw 2 last games in our home court against the Pistons and the lakers.
Im not so sure we would have beaten the Hawks nor the Cavs if we had had to play the 7th game in their home court. We never beat neither team in their home court so.
It would seem that we will have to have the best record league wise this year again to win that apparently important psychological advantage. The Lakers, on paper looked very strong. But they did not have the Bynum force underneat to add pressure against our smaller lineup. I would not bet agaisnt the Lakers this year. You can be a fan without being a fanatic. Two diferent things. Champzilla was not just kidding. There is meat to his argument.
Home court advantage did it for us.

Reyquila, you’re crazy. Anyone who thinks the Lakers are a sure thing should read Phil Jackson’s book, “The Last Season.” Once you understand what a narcissistic lunatic Kobe is you"ll see how fractured his teams always will be — and we saw this in the finals. He browbeats the guys on his team to a degree that they freeze in the crunch. Bynum is a nice player, but I’ll take the Celtics any day of the week. Their stars play together, they commit on defense, they get the most out of their role players. If the NBA was about picking the teams with the most star power, the Spurs wouldn’t have won four times. You get 2-3 studs and surround them with role players who understand their jobs and you’re set. The Celtics and the Spurs are perfect examples of how that formula nearly always succeeds.

People who are worrying about the Celtics next year amaze me. Where are the holes on this team? Their starting five is a lockdown defensive club. Perkins is an ideal dirty-work type of player on a team that doesn’t need more scorers. Rondo is improving and a defensive force. The Big Three are terrific and play very well together. Even before free agency you’ve got one very dependable bench player in Leon Powe and a proven, useful player in Davis. That’s a seven-deep team before any new acquisitions. Even if we don’t get Posey back, what are the chances we won’t fill the House and PJ roles with players who can do those eighth-ninth player jobs? Backup point guards and reserve defensive bigs are not difficult gets. The core of this team is strong and will be for at least two more years — and that’s even assuming we don’t get anything out of guys like Giddens, Pruitt and Walker. If we do, we’re way ahead of the game.

We can’t beat the Lakers? That’s an absolute now? Uh, okay.

(This off-season stuff is sometimes hard to take.)

Actually I was kidding, but thanks for standing up for me Rey.

Lakers will not even make it to the Finals next year. The west is too competative to allow the same team to repeat as WC champs.

he is not bad but i really don’t know. I rather give giddens a chance

Lakers may win it all next year. We need to keep our starting seven and build out from there. One thing to keep in mind though. For some weird reason, Perk plays Bynum better than any other opposing center in the league. Very strange.

I agree w. Brickowski. Sign Tony instead of Snyder. The devil you know….