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That seems to be exactly the sort of move the Lakers are looking to make.

The Sacramento Bee's Sam Amick reported yesterday (and, to his credit, my pal Mays the disgruntled Bulls fan predicted this the week after the Finals) that the Lakers have contacted the Kings about a trade centered on Lamar Odom and - you guessed it! - Ron Artest.

In the interest of full disclosure, Amick also reported that the deal seems to be a long way from happening and that Kings would be expected to ask the Lakers to take on a lot of salary dead-weight if this were to come to fruition.

But all the financial mumbo-jumbo aside, the idea of the Lakers pursuing the league's poster boy for bad behavior over the last few years makes for quite a curiosity-piquing concept, mostly because it's so hard to ascertain what course of action would be best for the runner-up's front office this summer.

Here's guessing this isn't it, but it bears noting that there are cases to be made both far and against this deal.

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If we were living in a vacuum, the upside of this trade might be just enough to make it worthwhile.

Of the Lakers' weaknesses that were exposed during the Finals, few loomed larger than their inability to defend the small forward position.  Paul Pierce out-classed Vladimir Radmanovic and Luke Walton by quite some distance, and at times, it appeared that he could have fouled either one of them out of any game at will.  Both players have major trouble guarding solid scoring threats at the three, and Trevor Ariza has yet to show the health or consistency to earn the spot for himself.

With Andrew Bynum coming back into the lineup at center in the season to come, Lamar Odom is expected to slide into the small forward spot.  This solves the problem of having VladRad and Walton logging the big minutes at the three, but it adds the problem of playing a power forward out of position.  Odom isn't the world's most mentally secure player, and there is certainly a chance that he will have a tough time adjusting to his new position -- as well as a chance that as athletic as he is, he simply won't have the wherewithal to match up with quicker small forwards.

Artest's presence would solve all of those problems.  He is a natural small forward who also happens to be one of the league's premier defenders.  Having Kobe Bryant and Artest together would give the Lakers a lock-down pair at the swing spots, and Bynum's return would likely only help the interior defense behind them.  Artest would add a helping of toughness and a mean streak to this Lakers team, and he would be very effective at defending small forwards of all varieties.  Further, while he doesn't shoot with great efficacy, he can score the basketball when needed and would no doubt be likely to get his share of open looks playing in a lineup with Kobe, Pau Gasol and Bynum.  Artest played at a very high level when he went west to Sacramento for half a campaign in 2005-06 and was instrumental in propelling the Kings to the playoffs that season.  What Artest and his bulldog attitude could mean to this Lakers team is a scary thought for the rest of the league.

But the problem is that it could be a scarier thought for the Lakers.

It bears remembering that this is a Los Angeles team that cruised through the Western Conference and came within two wins of becoming NBA champions this past season.  The team doesn't know for sure what will happen when Andrew Bynum moves back into the lineup, but all expectations are that the Lakers will only get better.  How well Lamar Odom plays the three remains to be seen.  But one way or the other, this group seemed to enjoy playing together by the time all was said and done last seaosn, and it's always dangerous to make an overhaul-type move to a team so close to a title.

It's particularly dangerous when the player in question to be acquired has shown the ability to wreak havoc on a franchise.  Phil Jackson may be a master of egos, but managing Kobe Bryant and Ron Artest could be one of the toughest challenges he has ever faced.  Artest has had all manner of problems with his conduct both on and off the court throughout this decade,  and keeping him in line would be a daunting task.  What happens when Artest -- known in Sacramento for his chucking ways -- takes too many shots for his shooting guard's liking?  What happens when Artest starts making his usual brand of off-the-wall comments to the press about his future?  What happens if he doesn't take well to Kobe's behavior in general?  How is it possible to prevent him from a meltdown at the most crucial times in the playoffs?  These are all among the many questions Jackson will need to find answers for, and so far, there have been few if any reasons to expect definitively good results in any of those situations.

The guy behaves erratically, and while the Lakers could simply let him go at the end of the season if he doesn't work out for them, he could negatively impact team chemistry to a point beyond repair if left unattended for long enough.  This certainly happened in Indiana, and with the exception of Jackson's presence, it doesn't look like it's necessarily that much less of a possibility in Los Angeles.  It's also worth remembering that from a basketball ability standpoint, Artest doesn't provide Odom's rebounding presence or his beautiful passing vision.

This Lakers team has grown into being expected to be a big-time contender for the next several years.  Ron Artest is the type of player whose attitude could put a lasting impression on the team in a short time, and there is certainly a good chance that said impression wouldn't be a good one.  In the meantime, there is a very real chance that the team could only get better with the expected shift in the front-court and no trade this off-season.  Thus, the idea of making such a major move with a team that needed two more wins to become 2008 NBA champions seems like too much of a stretch for now.

But that doesn't make the possibility of Phil, Kobe and Ron-Ron any less intriguing for non-boosters of the purple and gold.  Can't wait to see how this one plays out.

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What do you think happens the first time Kobe shows his ‘leadership’ abilities of cursing Ron out for missing a jump shot?

I hope they make this trade, and then Ron [beats up] Kobe at practice when he throws one of his patented tantrums in his direction.

Edited. No profanity or masked profanity please. -sw

by D Dub on Jul 11, 2008 1:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like a reality show to me, eh D Dub?

-sw

by Steve Weinman on Jul 11, 2008 1:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good call. it is a great move in theory, but I can’t see Ron taking kindly to Kobe’s condiscending arrogance.

When you talk to the hardcore Laker fans, they will tell you that Kobe had nothing to do with bringing this team together this year, after all – besides Pau – it was mostly the same squad last year that he wanted to be traded away from…

The difference maker in the locker room for them this season was Derrik Fisher, not Kobe. When Fish leaves that team, they will crumble.

by D Dub on Jul 11, 2008 1:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, your boy at Celticsblog gets no love after he said the following things on June 30:

 Re: Anyone else have a terrible feeling that Posey is going to end up in Laker Gold?
Â" Reply #53 on: June 30, 2008, 12:35:36 PM Â"
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My thinking would be LA trading for Artest, maybe a sign and trade sending Odom north. No way Artest takes a 3 million dollar cut. Another player…..maybe, farfetched, but maybe. Artest, forget it, no way.

 Re: Artest “Not Opting Out”
Â" Reply #2 on: June 30, 2008, 09:50:22 PM Â"

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I don’t know what Odom makes but a semi straight up Odom for Artest trade would seem to make sense for both teams. Or maybe Artest and a player for Odom.

 Re: Elton Brand opts out.
Â" Reply #18 on: June 30, 2008, 10:19:39 PM Â"

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Quote from: timepiece33 on June 30, 2008, 10:10:55 PM
The Lakers should offer Gasol for him. It is a deal the Clippers won’t likely get an improvement on and it provides them the badly needed physical nature they need.

Here’s a scary thought. Lakers trade Gasol for Brand and Odom for Artest and Sheldon Williams. They resign Vujacic and let Turiaf go and come to town next June with a lineup of

Kobe
Fisher
Artest
Brand
Bynum

with a bench of
Vujacic
Radmonovic
Williams
Walton
Farmar
Ariza

That’s a tough team!

I’m crushed! :‘( :’(

LOL ;) :D

Just kidding but I thought this one made logical sense from the minute Odom decided to play matador defense in the Finals and helped his team look foolish in the Finals.Great minds and all that I’m imagining Sam Amick and you boy Mays must also be handsome brilliant men as well. LOL!

by nickagneta on Jul 11, 2008 4:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great observations about team chemistry for the Lakers D Dub. How do you think Bynum feels after the Kobester last summer told a group of fans with a camera that Bynum was essentially nothing and should be traded? Bynum went out and had a phenomenal first half. While I hate the Lakers I was secretly happy for Bynum showing up Kobe. Fisher is a professional and fits in well with the Lakers. I’m not sure why they let him go in the first place. They’ve been weak at the point for a while. As far as Artest is concerned, if Larry Bird was willing to have his photo taken with Artest for the cover of SI, then there’s got to be something there in Artest that’s positive. I just don’t think that Bird would lower himself for some cheap pr stunt for his team. I think he genuinely believed that Artest was a special player. Finally, Sacramento and the Lakers don’t like each other. Moreover, they’re in the same division. I’m not sure Sacramento really wants to make the Lakers better by trading Artest to them. I guess if the Lakers think they can move Odom, which I believe is the consensus in the organization, then they’ll keep trying to do it. Meanwhile, perhaps that will make them less enthusiastic about approaching Posey.

by The Real Large James on Jul 11, 2008 5:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The deal is going to be Artest and Kenny Thomas (or SAR) for Odom. Makes sense for both teams. LA makes a run at a championship with Artest, who is a better player tand a much more natural small forward than Odom. Meanwhile, Sacramento becomes a major player in the 2010 free agent market.

by Brickowski on Jul 11, 2008 6:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, that’s a pretty amazing starting five with one major weak spot. Point guard. Although, in the fabulous triangle offense the pg is less important. That said, if Rondo keeps improving, he’ll destroy the Lakers defensively.

by The Real Large James on Jul 11, 2008 7:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m not sure how well liked Artest is in Sacramento but I have to believe the fans will go nuts if Artest goes to the Lakers. There’s a lot of bad blood there which got worse when the rumors emerged about the playoff game being thrown by the refs a few years back.

by The Real Large James on Jul 11, 2008 7:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not sure the Maloof’s will gift wrap the Lakers a championship. I will believe it when it goes down. I don’t see how Kenny Thomas is worth getting basically nothing in return for Ron Artest..

by Sweet17 on Jul 11, 2008 7:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Best scenario is Maloofs extract LAL’s first-round draft pick in like 2013, and Kobe’s injured in his next-to-last year, and LAL’s awful, and they get lucky in the lottery (which by then has been reformed and isn’t such a crapshoot, anyway,) and they wind up getting the number one overall selection and handing it over. For once. ;)

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Jordan Farmar in Fisher’s pg spot by the playoffs.

by wiserguise on Jul 11, 2008 8:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

artest is a doofus, but a lock down defender. he can put up points as well. the zen master can have him read-the art of war. or maybe buss can hire dr. phil as an adjunct coach.

by nazzbo on Jul 11, 2008 8:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not sure the Maloof’s will gift wrap the Lakers a championship.

That’s my thought, as well. I think Sacramento will look far and wide before helping out LA.

I think if you’re the Lakers, you have to make this gamble. Odom is best as a power forward; at small forward, his rebounding skills are diminished, and his defense suffers. Offensively, he has an erratic outside shot. Artest is a better fit at both ends of the court as a small forward.

The problem, as set forth above, is the locker room. In the past, Artest has shown it doesn’t matter if he’s on a winning team in championship contention or not; Ron Ron is going to act up whenever he wants to. That being said, he very well may be able to keep himself under control for a year, making LA an even scarier team than they are now.

by Roy_Hobbs on Jul 11, 2008 9:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Artest the nut case will guarantee no title for LA – would love to see it happen…..

by Master Po on Jul 11, 2008 11:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The guys on Celtics Stuff Live laughed at me when I suggested this exact trade in an e-mail on last Sunday’s show.

by MaxwellSmart on Jul 11, 2008 11:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think the Kings made the right choice drafting Jason Thompson. He’s going to be pretty good.

If this deal were to happen, I could actually see Kobe and Artest getting along.

by DJ to Bird on Jul 11, 2008 1:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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