Crazy Idea

Posey obviously needs to be the first choice over any possible malcontent being added to the roster.

In my estimation, Posey, KG & Ray Allen can out influence even the baddest apple in a similar way the core players on the Pats manage their locker room.

Randy Moss is excelling on the Pats, maybe the veterans on the Celts can have the same influence. There has been crazier ideas, but I think Posey is a must to even venture down this path.

One thing’s for sure, if Marbury ever ended up here, he’d have to prove his worth to the fans in this city before they’d fully welcome him.

Let’s assume House is gone. Starbury would fit in like a more talented version of Sam I Am on last year’s team. So I think it could work (when Same was hitting his shots off the bench the team was unstoppable.) The real question is attitude, and I agree it’s a gamble, but it’s the right kind of gamble at short money. He’s only 30 (31 this next year) so it’d not like he’s over the hill.

It looks like his defense is awful on 82games (opponent PER) – but it didn’t seem to have an effect on the overall team defense which was awful either way. So I think he’s also a candidate for an Eddie House / Ray Allen – this guy can’t play defense – improvement.

Roster wise – he can play the SG when Rondo is at PG or PG against high pressure defenders and get it across the half court. Not sure if he’s as much of a sniper as House – few are – but open looks help.

Did the buy out already happen?

Jeff,

You’re right. This is a crazy idea.

You are talking about a guy who had some shady connections with Isiah’s sexual harassment case v. Anucha Browne Sanders.

Besides the fact that he has been a dead weight in this league for too long and has had some totally whacked out moments, the Browne Sanders case for me is enough to scream a resounding NO!

Not only does Starbury stink, he’s a loser too. No thanks.

I’d rather see Eddie House, and Marbury is a “crazy” idea, but I’ve also read some good things about him and he could be one of these misunderstood bad guys created with media help. When surrounded with “character” players such as we have in Boston, maybe he could fit in. Even if House were here, both are shooters, Marbury’s probably better at the point offensively, and they might even be able to play together and give them that bench scoring that we need, in addition to spreading the court. In any regard this would be a late add-on.

Marbury could be a valuable “chip” only if Posey returns. While offense is ALWAYS needed, defense rates a close second. If Posey doesn’t return we’ll need someone to fill his void and that means a defensive minded player who will change the tempo of play.

While Tony comes to mind I wonder if he’ll ever gain the consistency required for a championship run. We also should be concerned about his degree of recovery from the knee problems. Doc had commented that Tony’s practice performance during the playoffs suggested that he was fully recovered yet Danny didn’t resign him nor did Tony see much PT in the playoffs…“writing on the wall”? Posturing?….

  Wyc commented that Danny had plans to add a few more players depending upon his ability to sign Posey (and even House). Was Marbury one of those? Is Giddens in the mix? Doc and Danny said that it’s possible Giddens could see PT in the coming year but as yet he remains UNSIGNED.

Once the Posey issue resolves it would appear that other “chips” will fall and that (with the exception of Patrick O’bryant) everything remains on hold.

While we speculate on another run for 18, recall that the Celtics were very lucky that key players remained relatively healthy for the entire year. Should a key injury occur the addition of a Marbury could keep us in the race while rehab awaits that player’s return.

Marbury shouldn’t come to Boston. He’s still a starting quality point guard in this league and he should look for a more suitable home than here.

Stephon has undeniable talent? So does Ron Artest. So?

I wouldn’t want to keep abreast of a weekly Starbury watch. Besides, a football locker room is a lot bigger than one for a basketball squad. It’s easier to dampen down a guy like Moss.

I’m resigned to seeing if Gabe Pruitt can make do as the backup point, with the expectation that someone else (Ty Lue?) will be around if he can’t.

Jeff, by the way, thanks for the effort in writing about something, anything, other than the non-developments in the Celtics’ effort to resign… (I don’t even want to say his name).

Call me crazy, but I don’t think a guy that just got the “Starbury” logo tattooed on the side of his head is ready to come of the bench and just be Stephon.

One other item………Marbury is cousins with Sebatian Telfair, who didn’t work out so well here.

Could be a factor to seriously consider.

If you got Marbury for peanuts, fine, sign the dude, good back up option.

Posey is the guy we need to resign. Offering 2 instead of 3 years, come on Danny! After Scal, Blount, etc type signings; throw Posey a bone for 3 yrs and get it done, even 4 if we have to.

Marbury comes in with the attitude of being a back up,either he or House will work for us. Posey is the guy who will be sorely missed if Danny does’t buckle down.

If you sign Marbury for little money and he’s a headcase, cut him. With small $$$, it is low risk, high reward.

I doubt we do both Eddie/Marbury, we need to still get playing time for Pruitt/Walker/Gidden/ maybe Tony too. We need to see what we can develop for 3 years down the road.

I say NO THANKS to the TRUCK PARTY! He doesn’t really play defense and has not mastered a “team” game. He is not a successful player and that attitude would be like a tumor growing in the locker room. Yes, we drafted Giddens, let’s not sign the truck party and give him a damning influence!

no,no, and no.I can’t think of one player from the knicks that has ever come to the celtics and done well. Ray Williams might be the closest. I don’t ever see Marbury playing defense and I think his game and ability are hugely overrated. He was a good player once upon a time but he doesn’t have it anymore so not only is he a POS, primadonnna and a cancer but he’s not that good. Why would you even take a chance on a guy like Marbury? He’s Kenny Anderson times 4 and we all know how well Kenny worked out. At least artest has talent.

it’s the crazy time of year. i agree with moskqq- nothing happens until posey is resolved. i think house is a strong possibility. tony seems a dimmer possibility tho still a viable option—the devil you know scenario. i don’t like marbury. never have.

Marbury also provides a backup for Ray Allen, don’t sleep on that. Posey saw all his minutes at the forward spots.

No. No. No. This is just a terrible idea. Rondo played 30 minutes per game for the NBA champions in his second season. You can bet your booty that’s going up to 35 or 38 next season. We need a backup that is willing to play 8-10 minutes per game. Hopefully that’s Eddie House. If not, I’m fine with it being Gabe Pruitt.

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck…it’s a duck. Marbury has too much baggage – on court (no D, shoot first type isn’t he?)and off court. While I thought Ricky Davis was a good gamble, Marbury is trouble.

Re-sign Eddie. PLEASE

I’d rather have House. But if the choice is Lue or Marbury, I think I might choose Marbury. Can’t believe I just typed that! :o

Roy, how did the Ricky Davis experiment “fail”? They won 45 games and went to Game 7 of the playoffs in their first year. Little unfair methinks. I will keep saying this until the cows come home (Is that the phrase?). Davis played his butt off here and kept his mouth shut. There is no reason Marbury couldn’t do the same.

Marbury is two years removed from a 16/5 season. If he has his head on straight (big if), he would definitely be a big boost to the ballclub.

Consider this: Posey, with his DUI, technically has had more off the court problems than Stephon Marbury has. Go figure.

He’s Kenny Anderson times 4 and we all know how well Kenny worked out. At least artest has talent.

What’s wrong with how Kenny worked out? He was a solid point guard for the C’s. Again, all this talk about Marbury “stinking”…he is one year removed from a 16/5 season and in his limited playing last season, he averaged 14/5. You may not like him, but he does not stink.

Also, on the sexual harassment case, we should be clear what those “shady connections” are. He had consensual sex with an intern. If those are the extent of his off-court issues, that he likes to have consensual sex, then well, I think Posey’s DUI was a little worse and he worked out fine. It’s all about perception.

He’s a shoot first no-D point guard. Why would the Cs want someone like that? I doubt he would be willing to back up Rondo
who is a better player anyway. I hope House comes back and that
the Cs get a chance to break in Gabe Pruitt slowly. But the Cs need to sign Posey. If I were the Lakers I would sign Posey.
He would make them smarter and tougher and he wouldn’t be guarding Kobe 18-20 minutes a game. He would be guarding Pierce
or Allen.

I don’t think the problem would be “knowing” his role/place on this team…. it would be accepting it and being happy with it. That wouldn’t last more than a month or two I don’t think.

I live in New York City and have been exposed to 3 years of Marburyisms. He loves the coach, he hates the coach, he’ll play any position, he’s a volume shooter, he’s injured, he’s fine, etc, etc, etc.

Rondo really needs a guard who can handle ball pressure & some shooting ability to back him up. Not a disfunctional vet who hasn’t been able to play consistantly in past 2-3 seasons.

One thing I don’t understand about the Marbury situation is why the Knicks would buy him out. Please correct me if I’m wrong, but Marbury is something like a $21 million (give or take a few bucks) expiring contract. Wouldn’t it make more sense to do what the Bulls did with Tim Thomas a few years ago and tell Marbury to go home and just pay him? Come the trading deadline in February, they could trade Marbury for anybody in the league.

Unless the Knicks are dead set on getting under the cap and making a run at LeBron in 2010 (logistically pretty unlikely), or can buy out Marbury for 30 cents on the dollar (probably unlikely the way they handled the Jalen Rose situation) it seems to me that it would make more sense to keep the expiring contract around as a commodity and see where it goes. Chances are the Knicks are going to be pretty mediocre this year, but let’s just say Mike D’Antoni finds a way to make this roster work – they could be in a position to add a valuable player in February if they still have that contract.

Any thoughts on this?

Come the trading deadline in February, they could trade Marbury for anybody in the league.

Well, Marbury’s contract expiring is more valuable to the Knicks than it is for them to trade it away for a longer term commitment.

nope, dude just got his jersey number tattooed on his face, tells you everything you need to know about where his priorities are

plus the number 3 is retired here, i don’t think he’s gunna take his face, fresh with the number 3 on it to a team where the number 3 is retiredand

also, he wouldnt take the pay cut, he’s all about ego and the one way player’s pad their egos is large paychecks

i dont want lue either, resign eddie, give pruitt a chance, or go after livingston before you try either lue or starbury