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Bargain Basement Shopping

basement.jpgFor those that watched the Ainge interview saw him joking about free agents coming to Boston and following the James Posey plan.  "Come play for us, and go get your money later."  In other words, sign for less money to play for Boston, create a name for yourself, and cash in next year. 

Now, keep in mind that he was laughing when he made that statement.  He was probably exaggerating a bit.  Well, maybe.  On the other hand, if you can get players for less than their true value, that's good business.  The only trick is making sure it still makes good basketball business.

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Good Things Come to Those Who Wait

Ainge was willing to use the MLE on Posey, but he was the best guy on the unrestricted market willing to accept the MLE.    Now the best way to maximize value is to wait until all the opportunities dry up for the guys looking for MLE (or partial MLE dollars) and give them a nice fallback option.  We are saying, in effect, "Can't get the payday you were hoping for?  How about signing a one year deal with us?  You'll win a bunch of games, raise your stock around the league, and sign a big deal next year."  Players are competitive by nature, and if they can't get paid, they want to win.

Almost by definition trying to sign any restricted free agents means overpaying them to keep the former team from matching.  On the other hand, if you wait long enough, sometimes a team will decide that they can't wait any longer on their free agent and move on to other options.  The teams with cap space and willing to spend have all spent their money.  So that means players might be looking at sign-and-trade options.  What if the Hawks sign-and-trade Josh Smith in exchange for a package that includes another wing player or two?  Would they still match any offer for Childress?  As it is, how much do the Timberwolves still want Ryan Gomes now that they have added Mike Miller?  If Ryan can get the full MLE from someone, I'm not sure that deal will be matched. 

The point is things change (sometimes very quickly).  Sometimes waiting produces opportunities that were not considered viable before.  Consider this:  Last year James Posey wasn't signed until August 27.

Markdown Options

When you shop in the bargain bin, you are normally looking at items that have some sort of flaw or have fallen out of style.  Same with players.  The question becomes "does the talent outweigh the risk?"  We've talked about some of these guys in the past, but let's break them down here.

Shaun Livingston - I'm a big fan of bringing this guy in.  He was a huge talent when he was healthy and seemed to be the point guard of the future in La-La Land before a series of setbacks and one gruesome injury.  Obviously the risk is that he'll snap in two and play fewer games than Planet Pollard.  The upside is that he'll be a super-talented backup to Rondo.

Stephon Marbury - Yeah, we've gone over this before.  But it bears mentioning again.  The guy has $21M talent and a $.02 head.  If we can point him in the right direction and sell him on Ubuntu, he'll be the best bargain on the market.  He only has to stay sane for a season.  Even Artest has been able to pull that off in the past.

Darius Miles - Like Livingston, any team picking him up is gambling that he'll be able to stay off crutches.  Then again, he's only looking for a veteran's minimum contract.  He's a very good low risk, high reward kind of guy.  He's been working overtime to make sure people know that he has grown up and has a love for the game that is driving him to get back on the court.

Tony Allen - Needs no introduction around here.  Usually with knee injuries of this sort, the first season is just ok and the second is where the player gets back to normal.  That was what happened with Tony's first injury, at least until he got hurt again.  Maybe this is the year he'll hit his stride and stay healthy.  Maybe.

I don’t think you can fill out the rest of the roster with Patrick O’Bryant, 2 rookies and some combination of the above players.  That’s just too much risk.  But I could see Ainge picking one of the above and giving him a shot.  It is my hope that he’d balance it with a low risk, steady hand like Kurt Thomas.

Nobody really knows what Danny is going to do.  He might not even know yet.  However, based on recent history we know that he won’t overpay (sacrificing flexibility down the line) and he will look to maximize talent for a bargain price.   It worked last year, can it work again next year?  We’ll see.

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Don’t offer more than 1 year contracts to anyone. No UFA still in the market is good enough. Spend the full-MLE again next year in a better player. Posey was the last difference maker from the bench in the free-agency market this off-season. This situation is quite different than last season’s, IMO. Last year market was much stronger, that was why we lucked into Posey. This year, the only reason to wait is to get cheaper deals. The good UFAs are already signed. Offering the full-MLE to Childress or Gomes wouldn’t be very smart, IMO.

Do you know if Livingston has already started taking contact drills? Can he practice in consecutive days?

by cordobes on Jul 21, 2008 5:50 AM EDT reply actions  

I always liked Gomes, but he’s really a 4, and had a very good season with Wolves because he played the 4. getting him, or going after him, does not fill needs as long as we have Big Baby and Leon. Marbury is poison, and just doesn’t get it. Livingston is still a guy with potential only, not what Celtics need.
   Tony Alllen would be good to retain. Childress would be a great addition, and at his age, you could justify giving him the long dollar, but would the Celtics spring?.
   Danny Ainge will have a few options as we get later in the summer. Athletes like Dahntay Jones, who can defend the perimeter, but are questionable scorers, will be around. And what about the kid that impressed at summer camp last year. He’s was long and talented. Bobby Brown ha sbeen getting some press recently as a PG talent. If we lose Eddie House, he’s a choice.
   Filling out the roster after the starters is a lot easier than the problem we had last season.

by VT Bill on Jul 21, 2008 6:05 AM EDT reply actions  

As I’ve been saying for awhile, get ready for a MAJOR downgrade of the bench. God help us if any of the starters get injured.

by CoachBo on Jul 21, 2008 6:47 AM EDT reply actions  

I’ve been saying this since he was released last season to make room for PJ Brown and Sam Cassell- the Celtics should bring back Brandon Wallace. (I assume this is who VT Bill was referring to.) He was a young, limber 6’9 small forward who would rebound, and had some offense. What’s more, he could be resigned dirt cheap (if anyone could find where he is).

The Celtics could use Brandon Wallace and Bill Walker, depending on the situation, to approximate James Posey. It may sound too simple, but why not?

by no kidding on Jul 21, 2008 7:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Ainge is willing to wait until the right chips fall. He as much admitted that we’re not looking at another James Posey but rather a Posey by committee replacement. That suggests that Ainge can go in several directions depending upon what’s left.

Yet, if Josh Smith gets the $$$ he’s looking for, Childress might be had for the MLE or close to it on a longer term deal. Reserving the MLE for other possibilities makes little sense because it’s the Childress type of addition that the MLE was designed for.

Kurt Thomas certainly looks like he could solve some of the inside uncertainty and waiting too long may be risky but if it’s all about “bargain-basement” we’ll just have to hope and wait.

I have a distinct feeling that Marbury is part of the many scenarios that Ainge has constructed.

by moskqq on Jul 21, 2008 7:51 AM EDT reply actions  

I actually like the Darius Miles idea.

by mcpu40 on Jul 21, 2008 8:07 AM EDT reply actions  

i liked b. wallace too, but we already have baby and powe- don’t need himm. we need a 3 and a 1 and maybe another 5.

by nazzbo on Jul 21, 2008 8:17 AM EDT reply actions  

House and Allen signed for 2 years…. that’s a bargain… Good job Danny… and he also has the Mid Level to sign another player……

by Ancient Red on Jul 21, 2008 8:32 AM EDT reply actions  

With the House and Tony signings it’s apparent that Barnes probably wasn’t being seriously considered by the Celtics. I have to believe that Kurt Thomas/Childress figure somewhere as does Marbury. What a surprise indeed if Randolph were bought out and Danny cast his eyes in THAT direction!

I also must believe that Doc wasn’t kidding when he said that Tony started to show signs of his former self during practice sessions in the playoffs. Perhaps he didn’t play much in the playoffs because he’s previous inactivity affected his rhythm and readiness (and because we already had Posey).

by moskqq on Jul 21, 2008 8:59 AM EDT reply actions  

What’s going on at the end there? The last graf is bolded and then cuts off…

Good article, though…this is where becoming a championship team changes things. It’ll be fun to be a fan of a team that can attract the bargains.

by FierceLikePaulPierce on Jul 21, 2008 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

fixed the article, thanks

by Jeff Clark on Jul 21, 2008 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

The bench will be no more a minus than it was last year entering the season. We have some young guys who will continue to improve (BBD, Leon), others who have a chance to help (Giddens, Walker), and almost certainly there will be some veteran help a la PJ Brown available during the season. Our bench did not become crazy deep until the end of last season, remember.

by sk7326 on Jul 22, 2008 8:40 AM EDT reply actions  

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