What Is Maggette Worth?

You cant compare Maggette to Garnett, Pierce, and Allen. Its tough to get excited about Maggette in replacement of Posey who was the glue that brought everything together. Posey’s ability to do all the “little things” on a consistent basis will be tough to replace.

“Posey’s ability to do all the "little things” on a consistent basis will be tough to replace."

I think the question is, how much are the Cs going to need players who can do the “big things”? It’s unlikely that Pierce, Garnett or Allen are going to just fall apart over the next two seasons…but they are guys who’ve been the league for over a decade and just put in the toughest season of their careers. While they should be able to get better as a team, we may have already seen the best individual efforts from GPA. As a 6th man, Maggette could take up any slack from those guys in a way Posey couldn’t.

However, the best chance to win another title is probably next year and keeping Posey is the best move in that respect.

Mike

Posey is the same age as Garnett. So if they gave Garnett 5 years, why not Posey? My only caveat would be Posey’s health. I will forgive Ainge for losing Posey only of Posey’s knee blows up (again) in the middle of his next deal with some other team.

As for Maggette, scoring is always overrated and defense is almost always underrated. That’s just the way it is.
Great offense trumps great defense on any given play, but over the course of the game the percentages favor the team that plays the better defense.

Besides defense and treys, Posey gave the Celtics toughness and ’tude.

His flaws are all as a primary option, as one of the top two players/scorers on his team. The author says it best himself:

In other words, as a sixth man he’s great, as a starter he’s not.

What are the Celtics bringing him to be again? Ah yes, 6th man.

This:

1. Maggette is a great sub, the kind of aggressive scorer you love coming off the bench. He has a shoot first mentality and is a mediocre defender at best. In other words, as a sixth man he’s great, as a starter he’s not.[/quote]

and this:[quote]

1. Maggette has made it clear he wants to start and be a primary offensive option. But he’s the type of high-maintenance player who doesn’t make teammates better. In fact, because he doesn’t create much, there tends to be a lot of standing around when he’s got the ball on the perimeter.

is a contradiction for a team built like the Celtics. One of the reasons Maggette doesn’t make much sense is because we already have two of the best wingers in the game playing on the ball. I want someone who comes off the bench to play on the weakside and to guard the best player of the opponent, allowing Allen or Pierce to rest on the defensive side.

I think PP had a similiar kind of scouting report from outsiders before this season ended. I don’t put too much stock in it. Corey is a far superior player to Posey. Posey is getting way to much hype for a guy that no one really wanted last year..

I think PP had a similiar kind of scouting report from outsiders before this season ended. I don’t put too much stock in it. Corey is a far superior player to Posey. Posey is getting way to much hype for a guy that no one really wanted last year..

Only in reports from very incompetent scouters. Pierce is one of the best defenders in the league.

I understand where you coming from, the problem is that we already have Pierce. Maggette is exactly a poor man’s Pierce with homeless man’s Pierce defense. It’s not the kind of wing rotation I’d want, especially because Ray himself is a better strongside player than Maggette.

Bring back Posey!

When some people say Posey is overrated by most Celtic fans, I can find that persuasive. But it’s also easy to undervalue his talents, one of which is his lack of difficulty in coming off the bench (something, by the way, he routinely did during his four year college career).

Yeah, Maggette might work out fine here, though I’m not expecting him. Still, if he does come, his self-perceived need to be a starter is likely to cause some occasional friction. And that should be factored into the thinking when Ainge is deciding what to offer the two guys.

Darius Miles is our savior !!!

The Heat won a championship with Posey, and so did the Celtics. Maggettee has barely been in the playoffs.

So we know the Celtics can win without Maggette. Would they have won last year without Posey? I’m not so sure. Can they win again without Posey? I’m not willing to gamble that they can.

 I think this depends on whether you consider what was most important for the finals or if you look at the entire playoffs.

If you are preoccupied with LA, then you need Posey.

Maggette would provide a lot of offense for the second unit, and that might be more important against the Cleveland’s and Atlanta’s of the world.

I would do Maggette for 4 yrs at $28M. That’s more than what others are giving him. I think he can stay healthy (Ray missed his share of games too last season). Ray too was considered a weaker defender. If Maggatte wants to be part of a championship (I don’t know him much) but if he has the eye of the tiger, I would definitely take him over Ray in a heartbeat. This guy is every bit as good as Ray (except 3s) and he’s a big time bargain compared to Rays $17M. If Clips are truly interested in Ray, I would try to do something of a sign and trade. We would be younger and better with Kaman/Maggattee for say Powe/Ray/draft pick/Scal.

Maggatte is easily worth $7 M in my eyes.

BIG difference between that report and the posters on this board who are dusting off space in Springfield for Corey while making up stories about Posey’s defensive inadequacies.

Maggette is a talented scorer and can get to the line. Period.

Expecting him to play D, or through injury isn’t going to happen. He’d be a decent sub for Ray on the cheap, but too many teams will overpay for him. I think he’s a smokescreen for Posey’s agent. “Look, we have guys who will sign for the minimum just to play here…”

Maggette would give Thib a migrane. If Thib sticks around that is. I hope he does.

lets see submarine our chance at future talent acquisitions, overpay for a 7ppg spot up shooter when we have multiple holes to fill. fiscally its just not responsible. id love posey back but at our price. danny doesnt have the luxury we have of thinking just the one move in front of our face. he has to weigh that against the longterm propects of the franchise in order to make sure we stay competitive for the foreseeable future.

The more Posey gets cast as the basketball Obama, the more other middling players will want to catch some of the same championship magic.

Just listen to what Pierce has to say on this issue. I wish Garnett and Allen would speak up as well.

I’m tired of hearing all this talk and analyzing of Posey vs Maggette. We don’t have a clue at what is really going on. People insist on comparing Maggette to Posey as an offensive player. OK, Maggette is a better offensive player, but I would rather have Posey taking the big shot when it really counts. As to what each would mean to a team, specifically the Celtics, I don’t see what all the talk is about. As Celtic fans we should realize that Posey is about much more than stats. He plays every play like we are down be 5 even though we may be up by 20. He doesn’t stop playing a play until he’s sure the whistle has sounded and that the play is really over. He encourages the young players, teaches them and learns from them and others. He’s a great teammate. He’s the best hugger in the league. There is no one available as a free agent who can help the Celtics more than James Posey and I think we should pay him fairly and even above that if that’s what it takes. We can’t worry about 2 or 3 years from now. Now it’s about now. Hopefully all this will end tomorrow and Pose will be ready to play for us next year. What should really be our concerns are a big with length to back up Perk, a guy like PJ, an experienced vet. We also need a backup for Rondo and I would be more than happy with Eddie House.