Salary Cap FAQs: 2008 Edition
| Player | 2008-2009 | 2009-2010 | 2010-2011 | 2011-2012 | 2011-2012 |
| Kevin Garnett** | $24,750,000 | $16,400,000 | $18,800,000 | $21,200,000 | n/a |
| Paul Pierce | $18,077,903 | $19,795,712 | $21,515,521 | n/a | n/a |
| Ray Allen | $17,388,430 | $18,776,860 | n/a | n/a | n/a |
| Kendrick Perkins | $4,078,880 | $4,250,000 | $4,390,208 | n/a | n/a |
| Brian Scalabrine | $3,206,897 | $3,413,793 | n/a | n/a | n/a |
| Rajon Rondo | $1,315,080 | $2,094,922 | $3,018,783 | n/a | n/a |
| Leon Powe | $797,581 | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a |
| Glen Davis | $711,517 | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a |
| Gabe Pruitt | $711,517 | $825,497 | n/a | n/a | n/a |
| J.R. Giddens* | $797,600 | $857,400 | $917,200 | $1,655,546 | $2,483,319 |
| Bill Walker* | $442,114 | $736,420 | n/a | n/a | n/a |
| James Posey | Free Agent | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a |
| Tony Allen | Free Agent | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a |
| Eddie House | Free Agent | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a |
| P.J. Brown | Free Agent | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a |
| Sam Cassell | Free Agent | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a |
| Scot Pollard | Free Agent | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a |
| Totals: | $72,266,519 | $67,151,604 |
$48,641,712 |
$22,855,546 | $2,483,319 |
Team options are in red and qualifying offers are in green. Salaries shown in orange represent non-guaranteed / partially guaranteed deals, while trade kickers and other owed salary obligations are in purple. Player options are listed in blue. Total salary assumes that all options are picked up.
* Salaries for Giddens and Walker are estimated. Giddens' salary amount is based upon 100% of the rookie scale, and Walker's deal is a standard two-year minimum.
** KG's salary is listed differently on Hoopshype and ESPN than it is on ShamSports. Sham sports lists his salaries as $24,751,934 / $16,451,934 / $18,866,934 / $21,281,934
Of course, the "meaty" part of this post is the "Frequently Asked Questions", where you can learn everything about J.R. Giddens' contract holdup, why we really won't have cap space in 2010-11 even though it looks like we will, and the fate of Semih Erden. Titillating stuff, I know.
All that and more, below the fold.
Frequently asked questions:
1) How much is the salary cap for the 2008-2009 season? How much is the luxury tax? What is the difference between these two numbers?
The salary cap for this season is $58.68 million. The luxury tax is $71.15 million. A lot of people get these two numbers confused, so I'll do my best to explain. However, the absolute best place to have these questions explained in detail in on Larry Coon's NBA Salary Cap FAQ page.
Essentially, the salary cap is a "soft" number which serves the purposes of limiting a team's ability to offer free agents from other teams contracts. A team can offer a free agent a starting salary below or equivalent to its amount of remaining cap room. For instance, if a team is $7 million below the salary cap, it can offer a free agent from another team a deal starting at $7 million per season. If a team is over the cap, the most it can offer is the mid-level exception (the "MLE"), explained in greater detail below. Obviously, we are far above the salary cap, and as such, for purposes of the Celtics discussion of the salary cap is purely academic.
More relevant is the luxury tax. Basically, for teams that exceed the luxury tax, they pay a dollar for dollar penalty on amounts above the tax. This money goes to the league, where it is divied up between the teams that stayed below the tax (again, this is overly simplistic, but you get the idea.)
Last year, the luxury tax was $67.865 million. Our payroll was roughly $76 million, meaning we paid a little over $8 million in luxury tax ($8,218,368, to be exact). We also missed out on a league subsidy of $3,081,807, which only goes to non-taxpayers.
2) What is an "exception"?
An exception is just that: an "exception" to the salary cap that allows a team to go over the salary cap to sign, or in some cases trade for, a free agent. For the Celtics, there are four relevant exceptions: the mid-level exception ("MLE"), the Bi-annual exception (also called the "LLE" or the "million dollar exception"), the minimum salary exception (also sometimes called the "veteran's minimum"), and the traded player exception.
The MLE: The MLE can be used to sign players to contracts for a maximum of five years, with annual raises equivalent to 8% of the contracts first year value each year. This exception is available to teams above the salary cap, and can be used annually. For the 2008-09 season, the MLE can be used to give free agents contracts starting at $5.585 million. The MLE can be used in its entirety on one player, or can be split amongst several players.
The LLE: The LLE can be used to sign players to contracts for a maximum of two year, with up to an 8% annual raise in the second year. This exception is available to teams above the salary cap, but can only be used every other year. The LLE for this season is $1.91 million. The LLE can be used in its entirety on one player, or can be split amongst multiple players.
Bird Rights: For any of our own free agents who have played for three years without changing teams via free agency for three seasons, we have what are known as "Bird rights". This allows the team to sign the player for any amount up to a max contract. Tony Allen is the only one of our free agents that we have Bird rights with. (The exception is named after Larry Bird, who was the first player to be signed with the exception, in 1984-85.)
Non-Bird Rights: For any of our own free agents who only have played for one year or less without changing teams via free agency, we can offer them a 20% raise over their 2007-08 salary, plus an annual raise equal to 8% of the value of the first year of the contract.
The Minimum Salary Exception: This is an important one for the Celtics, for reasons that will be explained in greater detail below. This exception allows a team to sign a player to the allocated minimum salary, which varies subject to the signing player's service time. Contracts signed with the minimum can be up to two years in length.
3) What's the max contract we could give to another team's free agent? Posey? House?
We can offer any free agent the MLE, which as noted above begins at $5.585 million. The max we can offer is a 5 year deal. Thus, the breakdown is as follows:
Year 1: $5,585,000
Year 2: $6,031,800 (8% raise equal to $446,800)
Year 3: $6,478,600 ($446,800 raise)
Year 4: $6,925,400 ($446,800 raise)
Year 5: $7,372,200 ($446,800 raise)
Thus, the max contracts we can give are:
One year deal: $5,585,000
Two year deal: $11,616,800
Three year deal: $18,095,400
Four year deal: $25,020,800
Five year deal: $32,393,000
We can also offer Posey and House non-Bird contracts, in the following amounts:
Year 1: $3,847,200 (20% raise from this year's salary)
Year 2: $4,154,976 (8% raise from Year 1 salary, equal to $307,776 raise)
Year 3: $4,462,752 ($307,776 raise)
Year 4: $4,770,528 ($307,776 raise)
Year 5: $5,078,304 ($307,776 raise)
One year deal: $3,847,200
Two year deal: $8,002,176
Three year deal: $12,464,928
Four year deal: $17,235,456
Five year deal: $22,313,760
As for House:
Year 1: $1,800,000
Year 2: $1,944,000
Year 3: $2,088,000
Year 4: $2,232,000
Year 5: $2,376,000
Thus, that's a max of a five year, $10,440,00 deal. More likely, he'd be looking at a two or three year deal, maximum.
We could also offer any player the LLE, which is $1.91 million this year and $1.99 million next season.
4) How many players do we have under contract? What is the maximum number of players we can have on our roster? Is there a minimum to the players we can have under contract?
Currently, we have nine players under contract. We also have the draft rights to J.R. Giddens and Bill Walker, who are expected to sign contracts, and Semih Erden, who will play at least one additional season overseas..
Once the season starts, a team can have a maximum of 15 players under contract, and a minimum of 13 players. Rosters must be finalized on or before October 31, 2008.
5) What are the benefits to signing a player to a minimum deal?
There are several advantages to signing a player to a minimum deal. First, there is no limit to the number of players a sign can sign to the minimum. Second, any player signed to the minimum doesn't count against the MLE, meaning the MLE can be allocated towards other players. Most importantly, though, the NBA actually subsidizes teams that sign players to the minimum. The team is only responsible for the first $797,581 of player salary; the league pays any amount over this threshold. Additionally, only $797,581 counts towards the luxury tax.
6) Where can I find a list of this year's free agents? What about free agents in future years?
This year's free agents are available here. You can find rankings by position here, and you can also find a decent free agency tracker here, although it has yet to be updated.
Potential 2009 and 2010 free agents can be found here.
7) Do teams have the right to match offers given to their free agents?
Generally not. The only time a team has the right to match an offer sheet given to a player is if that player is a "restricted" free agent. Essentially, a player is a restricted free agent after four years on a rookie deal for first rounders, and for all others players who are entering free agency in their first three seasons.
Under those circumstances, a team has a right to match offers to its restricted free agents, so long as the team extended the player a qualifying offer. If a team chooses not to extend a qualifying offer, the free agent then becomes unrestricted.
Our only potential restricted free agent this season was Tony Allen. However, the team elected not to extend him a qualifying offer, instead choosing to make him an unrestricted free agent. As noted above, we still possess Tony's Bird rights, and can sign him for any figure up to the maximum.
8) I heard J.R. Giddens didn't report to minicamp because he didn't sign his rookie contract. What's up with that? Aren't rookie contracts slotted at a certain salary?
Yes, rookie contracts are slotted. A rookie contract for the #30 pick is slotted at $797,000. However, here's the catch: teams can sign their rookies for anywhere between 20% below that number and 20% above it.
Thus, we can sign Giddens to a contract for anywhere between $638,080 and $957,120 in his first year. That's a difference of $319,040. Most rookies are given the full 120%, but with our team over the luxury tax, it's likely that Danny is trying to avoid going that high.
9) How much will we pay Bill Walker?
As a second rounder, there is no "slot" for Walker's salary. We're allowed to pay him any amount between the minimum salary and the full mid-level exception.
In the past, Danny Ainge has made a practice of signing second-rounders with a portion of the MLE. Why? Because the team wants to sign its rookies to three year contracts, and teams can not offer three year deals with either the LLE or the minimum salary exception.
Signing a player to a three year deal (usually one year guaranteed with two options) is important for two reasons. First, because it keeps the player on a rookie pay scale for three years, instead of the typical two. Right now, this team needs cheap young talent, as it has three well-paid superstars on the roster. Secondly, signing players to a three year deal means that the team acquires "Bird rights" in that player, meaning that the team can exceed the salary cap to sign that player without having to use the MLE or another exception. This is helpful in holding on to our free agents, in case Danny hits it big on one of his draft picks.
However, if the team signs Posey or another player to the full MLE, it is likely that we'll sign Walker to a minimum deal. ($442,114 this season, $736,420 next.)
10) What about Semih Erden? Will we have to pay him if he's in Europe?
No. Erden has one year left on his contract overseas. It is expected that he will come over to the United States next year. Either way, we retain his draft rights for one year after the expiration of any non-NBA contract he plays under. That means that if he extends his deal overseas, we continue to retain his rights until one year after his last contract terminates.
11) What does it mean when people say salaries need to "match" in a trade?
Assuming both teams are over the salary cap, incoming and outgoing salaries must be within 125% + $100,000 of each other for the trade to go through.
12) So, we have Bird rights to Tony Allen. Does that mean we could sign him to a huge one-year deal, and then trade him to another team as an "expiring contract"?
No. If you give a player larger than a 20% raise, he's subject to something called "base year compensation". Essentially, what this means is that for purposes of trades, you only count 50% of the player's actual salary as outgoing salary for trade purposes. However, the team trading *for* the BYC player has to count 100% of his actual salary for incoming purposes.
I know that's confusing as heck, so let me use an example. Let's say we want to trade Tony for a player making $7 million. We thus intend to sign Tony to a one-year, $7 million contract. Here's how that breaks down under BYC rules:
Boston trades: Tony Allen ($7 million salary * 50% reduction = $3.5 million)
Boston receives: $7 million player
The trade cannot go through, because the $3.5 million and $7.0 million salaries don't "match" within 125% + $100k.
Couldn't a team just sign Tony to a $14 million expiring contract, then? No. Here's why not:
Boston trades: Tony Allen ($14 million salary * 50% reduction = $7.0 million)
Boston receives: $7 million player
So far so good, right? However, the next step kills it:
Team X trades: $7 million player
Team X receives: Tony Allen ($14 million salary, with no reduction)
Thus, once again, the salaries don't "match". Base year compensation makes it very difficult (although not impossible) for players to be traded in the first year of contracts where they saw a substantial raise.
13) Looking at the above chart, it looks like the Celtics only have around $49 million in salaries committed for 2010. If the cap goes up to around $65 million, does that mean they can spend $16 million on free agents? Could they then resign Ray Allen with their Bird rights?
No and no. Surprising to many, free agents continue to count against a team's salary cap until they're either signed or renounced. This is called a "cap hold". Free agents essentially count against the cap at a figure greater than their previous salary.
The amount of these cap holds varies significantly; for actual percentages, see here. For purposes of the Celtics, Ray Allen would have a cap hold in excess of $20 million. While the team could renounce Ray, if they did so they would only be able to pay him the minimum salary.
Of even more significance is the cap hold of Rajon Rondo. As a restricted free agent, he carries a cap hold of 300% of his previous salary, or approximately $6.3 million. Thus, under the above scenario, the Celtics actual cap room would be approximately $10 million, rather than the $16 million anticipated. Further, there would be additional salary slots or cap holds for any other players on the roster. Long story short, unless we're starting over with ten or more new players, we don't have signficiant cap room in 2010-11, even if we renounce Ray.
14) Does Pierce have an early termination option in his last year? Is Leon's contract really not guaranteed?
There is conflicting data regarding Pierce's contract. Hoopshype has Paul's salary in 2010-2011 as guaranteed; ShamSports (a site I actually like a little better) says it's an option. I went with the "better safe than sorry" approach, and listed it. Peter May would be proud.
In terms of Leon's contract, this year's salary was originally non-guaranteed, meaning the team could terminate it if they wanted. There were certain performances clauses tied to statistics that would have made it a guaranteed deal. Leon misses those incentives, but it seems extremely likely that the team will bring Leon back, if they have not formally picked up his option already.
15) Where can I research these issues on my own?
Larry Coon's FAQ is an invaluable resource. For those who want to go above and beyond Coon's efforts, you can find the actual text of the Collective Bargaining Agreement on the Player's Association website .
16) Are you going to update this during the year? What if I have questions?
Yes, we're going to keep this updated throughout the year, in this thread stickied at the top of the Celtics Talk forum . Questions can be asked there, or in the comments below. We'll incorporate good questions into both this and future FAQs.
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Thank you for this information. I’m generally in the dark on this stuff, but I find it quite interesting.
by nachoman on Jul 9, 2008 9:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was about to ask about the Wally thing before I actually read your piece – nice work, very detailed
by Jeff Clark on Jul 9, 2008 9:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Excellent work, Roy. My one question is about Garnett’s trade kicker. I don’t think it is carried on Boston’s cap unless and until he is traded and the kicker in fact kicks in (as was the case with Szczerbiak). If I’m wrong, please explain.
by Brickowski on Jul 9, 2008 9:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great Job Roy! Thank you for the hard work putting this together. For a second, I was excited about the possiblity of a superstar add on in 2010-2011 until you explained it fully.
by BringToughnessBack on Jul 9, 2008 10:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Excellent work, Roy. My one question is about Garnett’s trade kicker. I don’t think it is carried on Boston’s cap unless and until he is traded and the kicker in fact kicks in (as was the case with Szczerbiak). If I’m wrong, please explain.
I was talking about the trade kicker KG got when he was traded from Minnesota, Brick. He was entitled to something like a $6.75 million trade kicker, which could have scuttled the deal. That was one of the reasons his contract was extended: to allow us to absorb the blow of the trade kicker over five years, instead of two. It’s also a reason KG was willing to take lower base salaries, because he got a pretty hefty boost when he was traded.
I actually edited out the information about Wally, though, as apparently I was operating under some faulty information (one more reason not to rely upon everything you read). A reliable source indicated that all cap hits associated with a trade kicker go to the team acquiring that player, meaning Wally’s hit followed him to Seattle. This was contrary to multiple reports I had read online, but I trust this source.
by Roy_Hobbs on Jul 9, 2008 10:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Excellent work Roy, proving once again you are the man when it comes to cap info. I have a question. Can a team under the cap have cap space for contracts and then if they then exceed the cap in the same year get the MLE?
Example:
For arguments sake let’s say Team A has $15 million in cap space because they have 10 roster spots signed to the tune of $53 Million and change. Their first move in free agency is to use all that cap space by giving Player A everything under the cap in a 5 year contract worth nearly $70 million. They then sign to 10 year vets at vet minimum contracts each. This now fills 13 roster spots and they are now over the cap. Are they now entitled to use of the MLE and LLE since they are now over the cap and the season hasn’t started?
by nickagneta on Jul 9, 2008 10:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Excellent work Roy, proving once again you are the man when it comes to cap info. I have a question. Can a team under the cap have cap space for contracts and then if they then exceed the cap in the same year get the MLE?
Example:
For arguments sake let’s say Team A has $15 million in cap space because they have 10 roster spots signed to the tune of $53 Million and change. Their first move in free agency is to use all that cap space by giving Player A everything under the cap in a 5 year contract worth nearly $70 million. They then sign to 10 year vets at vet minimum contracts each. This now fills 13 roster spots and they are now over the cap. Are they now entitled to use of the MLE and LLE since they are now over the cap and the season hasn’t started?
It’s a complicated question, nick.
How this works is, if Your Contracts Your Cap Holds Amount of MLE Amount of LLE (if available) Amount of Trade Kickers (if available) < Salary Cap, then no, you don’t get to use the MLE. That applies if all those things combined fall below the salary cap at any time (ie, if you clear up a cap hold by renouncing a free agent, etc.).
The intent of this is to keep teams that are under the salary cap from using an “exception” to the cap, as well. Only teams over the cap are entitled to an exception.
by Roy_Hobbs on Jul 9, 2008 10:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Roy. I though having WEally on the books looks a little strange. As for Garnett, I thought his kicker was the reason he’s making 8 million more this year than he will next year. Otherwise, I believe that a year-to-year salary reduction of nearly thirty percent would violate the CBA.
by Brickowski on Jul 9, 2008 10:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Roy. I though having WEally on the books looks a little strange. As for Garnett, I thought his kicker was the reason he’s making 8 million more this year than he will next year. Otherwise, I believe that a year-to-year salary reduction of nearly thirty percent would violate the CBA.
No, the rule about reductions doesn’t apply in the case of extensions as far as I understand, Brick. It’s essentially a new contract, and the team can sign him to pretty much any reduction it wants; it just looks strange, because this isn’t normally done. The trade kicker, though, is carried over all five years of the deal.
by Roy_Hobbs on Jul 9, 2008 10:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In answer to one of your questions, Brick, the trade kicker has already been accounted for. I found this through ESPN.com:
Salary figures obtained by ESPN.com show that Garnett’s salary will be $14.7 million in the 2009-10 season, $17.1 million in 2010-11 and $19.5 million in 2011-12, when he’ll be 36. Garnett was already scheduled to earn $22 million and $23 million over the next two seasons.
(For salary-cap purposes, however, his salary in each of those years will jump by $1.75 million to account for the trade kicker, making it $23.75 million for 2007-08, $24.75 million for 2008-09, $16.4 million for 2009-10, $18.8 million for 2010-11 and $21.2 million for 2011-12.)
by Roy_Hobbs on Jul 9, 2008 10:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
question: is it possible to give a guy an MLE offer that declines over time? for instance, we could give Posey the following numbers:
Year 1: $5,585,000
Year 2: $6,031,800
Year 3: $6,478,600
Year 4: $3,000,000
Year 5: $2,000,000
for a total of just over $23M which is a million more than if we signed him to the Non-Bird for 5 years but less than the $25M full MLE and softens the economic impact in the out years
by Jeff Clark on Jul 9, 2008 10:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No, Jeff. Salaries may decrease over time, but by no more than 8% per year (on the same contract).
by Roy_Hobbs on Jul 9, 2008 10:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
got it, well, you could still level it out with less money in year 3 and declining then on – just a thought
by Jeff Clark on Jul 9, 2008 11:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hobbs, nice job.
Jeff, perhaps you should consider placing a semi-permanent link to this particular posting on your front page somewhere. It’d be a nice resource to return in the future. It could answer the occasional plea for help, while resolving various disputes.
by no kidding on Jul 9, 2008 11:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A great Piece of work. Roy. I understoord it all but would not want to bt tested on it. Thanks.
by Freeease1 on Jul 9, 2008 12:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
is it bad of me to look at that chart and immediately think “Ray and Scal make for 22M in expiring salaries in 2009-2010”?
by Jeff Clark on Jul 9, 2008 12:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Awesome article. I learned a ton, and linked to it in the message board over at TWolvesBlog.com Thanks Roy, very well done, and easy to follow & comprehend (which is a huge accomplishment based on how complex some of this stuff is).
by BonK on Jul 9, 2008 12:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Call me crazy. I can’t help but think that Pierce could (wink wink) opt out of the final year of his contract to give the C’s enough money to sign LeBron, and there’d still be enough money left to give Paul a decent salary for another 2-3 years with what’s left over. Yes, I’m crazy. But don’t tell me you don’t there isn’t a part of you that’s thinking “oh, snap, that could happen!”
by Section301 on Jul 9, 2008 12:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
None of my business but Roy I hope you were compensated well for this piece. With all respect to those who have posted articles on this site, this wins the Oscar. Honestly, a hell of a lot of work and follow up went into this at a crucial moment for fans. Kudos. Congrats. Po gets runner up for the interview with Russ.
by The Real Large James on Jul 9, 2008 12:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice job, Roy Hobbs, you deserve a place in Cooperstown after this.
After Psey is set, I think Ainge should start working on a longer deal for Powe, although he’s probably looking at Erden and Big Baby to fill that spot.
by Legend on Jul 9, 2008 1:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3480247&campaign=rss&source=NBAHeadlines]the tax man cometh:[/url]
The other six taxpayers from last season are the Cleveland Cavaliers ($14,008,561), Denver Nuggets ($13,572,079), Miami Heat ($8,318,879), Boston Celtics ($8,218,368 ), Los Angeles Lakers ($5,131,757) and Phoenix Suns ($3,867,313).
Each of the eight teams will receive formal invoices by Friday and must remit their tax payments in full to the league office by July 23.
Worth every penny.
by Jeff Clark on Jul 9, 2008 2:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I usually don’t use this word, but Roy: awesome!
I only wish I had time to pore over this at length.
by Eeyore III on Jul 9, 2008 2:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank You Roy. I on board with no kidding about the permanent link.
by FatjohnReturns on Jul 9, 2008 2:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Have any of you looked at the free agent list for Summer 2010, when we’re projected to have $15-20 million in cap space?
http://www.realgm.com/src_freeagents/2010/
Lebron James
Dwayne Wade
Josh Howard
Dirk Nowitzki
Kobe Bryant
Pau Gasol
Richard Jefferson
Amare Stoudamire
Tony Parker
Caron Butler
All unrestricted. Then there’s the restricted players like Oden, Durant, Horford, etc.
by Real World on Jul 9, 2008 3:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Have any of you looked at the free agent list for Summer 2010, when we’re projected to have $15-20 million in cap space?
See question #13 above. With the “cap holds” of Ray and Rondo (plus the salaries and/or cap holds of any other players on our roster) we won’t have much cap space at all in 2010.
by Roy_Hobbs on Jul 9, 2008 3:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great work Roy!
So what is the best way to use the 21.8 million of expiring in 2009-10 for Scal and Ray?
To trade them or to let them expire? Or is there another option?
Great work again!!
by Mon on Jul 9, 2008 3:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The thing that boggles me is how Bartlestein can represent House and Posey adequately at the same time, having in mind that there is a direct conflict of interest there: the more we pay for Posey, the less we can spend on House, and vice versa.
by kozlodoev on Jul 9, 2008 5:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The vast majority of the 2010 unrestricted free agents will have signed extensions with their current teams long before they hit free agency.
by Brickowski on Jul 9, 2008 5:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
One other point. Roy, I thought Scalabrine’s last year was a team option, but your chart does not induicate that. Maybe it wasn’t.
by Brickowski on Jul 9, 2008 6:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Woo Hoo in 2011 Rondo got all the money in the world
and we are in rebulding mode again.. ;D
by Edgar on Jul 9, 2008 6:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In response to Section301’s comment on Pierce doing a “wink wink” Brand type opt-out (but actually re-signing), I was thinking the same thing. But then I saw the cap-hold stipulation. So is it correct to assume that even if Pierce did this, he would count even more against the cap than his salary(~25M?).
I would watch for Danny signing free agents to 3-yr deals, and then having cap space in in the summer of 2011. Hopefully everyone with capspace would have used it the previous summer, and we could get some bargains.
by Vicirus on Jul 9, 2008 7:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WOW… phenomenal work, Roy. I’ve always been fascinated by the NBA CBA. I just love this stuff.
As far as cap space in 2010-11… if we sign Rondo to an extension the summer before, then we will not be hit with the $8m cap hold, but the actual contract amount. Although, the extension would probably start around $8m anyways.
The plan would have to be to re-sign Ray to a 2yr/$10m deal (Bird rights envoked), then sign Pierce to a modest extension in 2010 (3yr/$30m) so his actual salary hits 2011. That would still trap around $46m on Pierce, Allen, KG, and Rondo. Add in another $8m for rookie and other contracts, and we are still pretty close to the cap in 2011, which will be around $63m by then.
Gonna have to keep building this team through the draft, trades, and MLE signings until KG’s contract runs out.
by Timbaland7 on Jul 9, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well Roy, when I saw this earlier today, I said I’m going to set aside some time late tonight to sit down and try to digest it all. Excellent job. I agree with the person who said he wouldn’t want to be tested on it, but I this gives me a much better understanding of this stuff.
I’m finding this off season every bit as interesting as the actual season.
by Kuberski33 on Jul 9, 2008 11:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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