So now we have 5 PFs ? I smell a trade coming soon.

I am so pumped! hopefully he can when most improved player!!!

And here I was just checking the site on the off chance something happened ;D

Interesting move. Wonder what the deal is. It’s nice to have a team good enough that if Miles’ doesn’t work out it isn’t the end of the world.

I’m sure we’d all agree that he if he plays up to his “average” this signing would be considered a steal.

I just heard this on the dale and holley show, im actually all for the move, can’t hurt…

Well, I did not like the thought of signing Miles when I had heard that the Celtics worked him out twice, and my opinion hasn’t changed. Miles hasn’t played in the NBA for two years, he’s a notorious coach killer, and his attitude is awful. For some reason, I’m not so sure I can picture Darius Miles being a pro-Ubuntu type of person.

With that said, it is a low-risk signing, and any funny business, he will simply be cut. I can’t imagine that this deal is for anything more than one year at the veteran’s minimum, so it isn’t a financial hit. Also, maybe this is the stage where Miles reflects on his mistakes and finally starts growing up. He’s good friends with Paul Pierce, so maybe our current group can keep him in check.

We’ll see, but I’m skeptical.

So is Bill Walker going overseas now ?

BOOOOOOOO!!!!!! we go from Posey to Miles? awww lawdy

I love this move.

Kind of how the already rich can afford to invest in more volatile but higher return investments, the C’s are stocked enough that Danny doesn’t have expend cash or cap or roster spaces on low potential players—even at the bottom of the roster. (Hello, Scal!)

Is he reaching too far into the injury scrap heap? Probably not if they’re doing their homework as well. Does the Miles deal mean that Livingston is out of consideration? (If they could sign him too, that might really be pushing it!)

this is inane. For the cost of one year/7 million, we lose Posey in favor of two guys with a history of attitude and knee problems. Ainge’s “free agents lining up around the block” amount to the dregs of the NBA scrapheap. You all realize, do you not, that we just signed a guy who when healthy and in his prime was considered an untradeable problem on one of the worst teams in the NBA. “win win” indeed.

Now that he’s a Celtic…I can root FOR him.

CelticBalla32 said:

he’s a notorious coach killer, and his attitude is awful.

Can you give some examples of his awful attitude?

Frig, and I just thought we has nothing to talk about LOL… Great signing since it’s not guaranteed. The Celtics can cut him at any time, but somehow I have a feeling that this is going to work out well for Boston.

Just think when Boston acquired Dennis Johnson for Rick Robey how everyone thought how was Dennis going to fit in with Bird, McHale, and Parrish. I’m not saying that Darius is Dennis Johnson, but they had the same bad attitude.

Maybe, just maybe putting him with the Big Three might help him mature and grow up very quickly and understand his potential.

You can complain about this signing one bit…..

Okay I take back what I said about this being a boring summer hahahaha !

I’ll trust Danny’s judgement on this one, although count me in the Shoulda Kept Posey Camp. I have been watching tivo’s of the playoffs all summer, Posey did some unbelievable things at key times in games. Who’s gonna step up?

^He has serious talent though dude. That trumps all that stuff. That’s just how the world works. it’s not really fair.

Anyone remember a few years back when Tommy referred to Miles as “The Clippers Walter McCarty”? ;D

Great signing…I liken it to renting him for the next two months to see if he can be an asset to the team. If not, then he can take a hike.

If he makes that far, and screws up during the season (doubtful with the vet leadership in place) he can be put on the injury list, or outright waived/released, whatnot.

Teams that are at the pinnacle of their sport can afford to take minor risks like this.

it’s been a while,so, i remember him being a knucklehead, lots of athleticism, but spotty play——making 1 great play and disappearing afterwards. i also remember turnovers.

The Village Idiot said:

Can you give some examples of his awful attitude?

At this point, do you really need evidence? Quite frankly, I don’t want to waste my time searching for “official” proof. But here’s what I can tell you off the top: He’s had problems with each and every coach he’s ever had, he once said that he doesn’t care how many games the Blazers win because “Cheeks is gonna get fired anyway,” called Mo Cheeks the N word and cursed him out at a film session, he’s been caught with marijuana more than once, he once publicly and semi-furiously complained about not having a Trail Blazers bobble head, he’s a career underachiever because he had never had great work ethic, etc. etc. etc. He’s an idiot and a bad attitude. “Ubuntu” and “Darius Miles” just don’t seem to fit in the same sentence.

Miles is joining the big ticket, jesus and the truth…not really worried about his attitude ;D ..Jeff mentioned that a couple of years out of the league with injuries, has probably helped him mature..one additional thought..Doc..Maybe Danny has done it again…

  “Anyone remember a few years back when Tommy referred to Miles as "The Clippers Walter McCarty”?"

I’d be happy if he played defense like McCarty and brought Waltah’s energy. Face it, the roster is loaded. Barring an injury, Miles will probably make the roster but will be fighting to just suit up. (I still think Pruitt will not make the team and another guard will be added)

Anybody find it interesting that Manboobs and Miles are listed at 6-9 235lbs? Slightly different body types?
 ;D ;D

I think the 10 game suspension is a blessing in disguise for both Boston and Portland, especially Portland. It gives the team more time to see how Darius Miles responds to the grind of training sessions and NBA travel, to see whether his fitness can hold up. Like an extended training camp for the coaching staff to evaluate Miles before putting him in games. Since he hasn’t played for two years that extra period of training likely will be beneficial. For Portland it buys more time and if Darius is struggling, it makes it more likely he doesn’t make 10 games.

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I keep thinking about Dajuan Wagner and the Warriors. How they felt he looked great in workouts, was playing great in early practices/games, and would be an important part of their team. Then that grind started to pick up and his body just couldn’t handle it, from there it all fell apart quickly and he was bought out two months after signing that two year deal.

If he plays basketball the way he acted in the movie “The Perfect Score” we are all in for a treat.

Well, now we have two so-called low-risk, high-reward signings. I remain dubious. To compare O’Bryant to P.J. and Miles to Posey is just laughable. Two reasons:
1) P.J. was class all the way, AND Perkins is not in my opinion going to be much better with fouls as he was this past season. I predict marginal improvement in that area from him. If there’s a glass ceiling with Perkins, it’s on his fouling. Just my opinion.
2) We go from two leaders/veterans with two humongous question marks. That’s expecting a lot.
As I’ve said before, I believe this crew can win the East, and hey, that’s great. But I just don’t see us winning it all again unless there’s a pretty serious vet pick-up. I’ll just nurse that title next season and hope for the best. Could be worse I suppose. My whole thing is, I felt that by going ahead, sucking it up and giving Posey his extra year or two would have made us unbeatable for a couple more years. Hoping to get ready for a free agent run in a few years just seemed too risky when we had already mortgaged the future for more title shots with KG and Ray Allen.
Whatev. We’ll see what happens.

Perk has improved every year he has been in the league, I’m pretty sure with Clifford Ray in the offseason he will have a better offensive game. We also didn’t have PJ Brown at the start of the season, so you have to compare POB to Pollard.

Count me amongst those excited for the second coming of Darius Miles. We need a young running small forward, and playing with Garnett, and with Champions, should help Miles become that.

Also, don’t forget the Boston fans who have willed three separate sports to professional Championships in the last four years. Maybe it’s the long winters, maybe it’s all the drinking, maybe it’s just a native mean-spirited attitude: but in any case, Boston fans do not allow second best.

I think is a good move. He can be fired at any time. And honestly, if he gets his stuff together there is a ton of upside. And if he starts to act out, KG will him.

I don’t mean that rhetorically. I mean KG will actually physically kill him with his bare hands.

I think having KG as the drill sergeant, more than anything, is the reason Danny is willing to take on such a problem child.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyBf2fK37yE

So overall, Master Po, it would appear that you couldn’t be more excited with the signing? Great post.
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“one additional thought..Doc..Maybe Danny has done it again…”

The thought of Doc with anybody with a history of character problems is scary at best. He has no history of being able to handle anybody with issues. So hopefully Miles is past them.

For the record, ubuntu may be the dumbest word since eclectic…both words mean nothing.

If there’s one team who can afford to take a risk and see if he’s got anything left it’s this Celtics team. They’re going to win 50 games no matter who else is on the team, and if he has anything left, it’s just a bonus… and insurance in case Pierce gets hurt.

i like it. im sure being told he’d never play again has given his life a tremendous amount of perspective over the past 2 years. he’s no longer guarenteed anything and if he wants to play basketball for a living he’s going to have to work. also, there is more than enough veteran leadership on this team to squash any fears that he’s going to come in and cause trouble. good job danny

it is a low risk high reward signing, but i have a hunch that, like B. Wallace and Bynum and Pittsnogle, Miles will be cut before the 1st game.

The Village Idiot said:

At this point, do you really need evidence?

Sure, because I haven’t followed his career and don’t really know much about him.

CelticBalla32, don’t you think Danny (and Doc) have the same concerns as yourself in regards to any new player they bring in buying into the system, teamwork, Ubuntu, etc? Don’t you think they covered these things thoroughly before signing him to a contract? I think for fans to be concerned about how a guy supposedly is “in the locker room” if the management is convinced that is not an issue, makes no sense. Will the fans be affected by how Miles acts around the team? We are not giving enough credit to the core of the team and the workouts/interviews/discussions the Celts brass have had with Miles.

All we need to do is look at the Pats with Dillon, Moss, etc in terms of when a championship team is established, the outsider has to come in and fit in and buy into the system. If not, see you later, they have no long term ties to Miles. When the Big 3 came aboard, Danny had limited resources remaining and knew he would have to be creative with the rest of the roster(we got Posey cheap, if he was in line for the money he got this year, we would not have been players for him last year). This is a low-risk, potentially high reward signing, the “attitude” thing is overblown because if it is a real problem even after he is surrounded by true pros, it will never become an issue because he will be long gone.

“The worst of Antoine Walker, Ricky Davis, Vin Baker, and Mark Blount combined.”

That is theoretically a worst case but, unlike these former starters or important role players (who were counted on), Miles is the 14th or 15th man in the depth chart. If Kevin Garnett is his hero, it’s all to the good. He will need to earn his minutes and prove that he’s healthy and, if he does (at a more mature age 26 following what was supposed to be a career ending injury), he ought to be a lot more grateful for what he took for granted before. It’s a no brainer low risk and high reward move. If he can’t cut it because of attitude or injury, they will simply cut him.

Big_Easy, I think you might be underrating the veterans we already have on the team. I agree Posey and PJ were huge for us at different times in that historic run, especially Posey. However, I think the need for “veterans” is a bit different for this team as the C’s now have a whole core who have gone all the way and experienced all that that requires. That was a real concern last year, that PP, KG and Ray had never even gone to the Finals, let alone win, and could they do it without that experience. Having answered that concern, this year’s team is not so heavily reliant on bringing in “other” vets to address that, KG, Ray and PP (and to a lesser extent Rondo and Perk) now ARE those vets. I think having some more youth and athleticism off the bench this year will be a welcome burst of energy, and the vets we already have will be enough to carry the C’s through the tough times.

I like bad boyz ;) Great signing !

dude!! Yes!!! This could be fun!

Check out the comments over at the Blazers Blog post: http://blog.oregonlive.com/blazers/2008/08/celtics_sign_darius_miles.html#more
The vitriol directed at Miles and our own Danny by Blazer fan is hilarious and kinda scary.

BILL WALKER JUST SIGNED !!!

TP for me

why are most people worried about miles’ attitude problem when our own tony allen who’s got some ’tude problems of his own got curbed and bought into the ubuntu thing???

give miles a chance! i believe he’ll be great for the team if he’s really up to it.

go c’s!!!

i’ll add too, if miles can get his act back at least on the defensive side, then he’ll be a great asset… he was a great help defender, blocks shots, very athletic for a 6’9 or 6’10 sf, runs the court and finishes well (thunderous most of the time)…

i will root for this guy to make the team… he can definitely help if ever…

http://flowncars.blogspot.com/2006/05/more-proof-nba-players-are-craziest.html

KJ33 said it well. This is what you get when you have three guys making 60 mil on your payroll. You fill in on the cheap. We wouldn’t of had Posey last year if he wasn’t a bargain basement type either. We will win because we have one of the top five guys in the league and one of the top ten players as his teammate. Plus an all star as the third guy. Nuff said! On a side note, I’m psyched that Walker is signed. I still feel he will really help this year.

Barring any health setback, everyone here is going to love this move by Ainge. He is going to provide good scoring punch in the second unit, so that it won’t be Tony Allen out there going one on five.

If the guy walks the line, great. If he doesn’t, or his knee can’t cut it, you cut him loose. And if you do have to cut him loose, it’d still be a positive. It’d provide a useful demonstration to everyone else on the bench.

i hope darius miles makes the team and i think he can help the celtics win