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10 Things About the Coming Season

1) No Posey

Posey was great.  No Posey no title; but that was last year.   

Last season the Celtics desperately needed veteran championship experience.   James Posey (with some help from Eddie House and later PJ Brown) provided that crucial veteran poise.   This year things are different.  Take a look: Suddenly the Boston Celtics roster is crammed full with bearers of the the one true ring.   They know how to do it now.  

Best of luck to James Posey and the New Orleans Hornets.  The Boston Celtics will be fine without him. 

2)  The Most Important Thing

As it was last year, the fate of the 2008-09 Boston Celtics lies not in the hands of Darius Miles, Patrick O'Bryant or JR Giddens.  Instead the Celtics will fly as high as their stars carry them.  It is Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen and Rajon Rondo (yes he's included in this core group) that will lead the way, with substantial help from the other big minutes players like Kendrick Perkins.

No one should expect any sort of drop-off from the all-stars.  Garnett and Pierce had top seasons last time around. 
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3)  Ankles

Ray Allen?  I never bought into his "perfect ankles" mantra following twin surgeries last year.   Now a year and a half removed from those procedures, I believe Mr. Allen will be more efficient, more consistent, and a metronome-steady nightmare for the opposition.  Observers of other teams who are hanging their hopes for Celtic demise based on Ray Allen's age are in for painful disappointment. 

4) Big Three

Remember the amusing "Big Three" controversy?  It's about to completely not matter.  Rajon Rondo is going to make it the Fab Four.  (Wait, has that phrase already been used?)

5) 12 Minutes

Say goodbye to small ball.  The Celtics regularly played Posey at 4 to get him more time. That generally wasn't the best line up (except in the finals). Now they'll stick with large brawny men at the back-up 4 on a regular basis.  Those 12 minutes at back up small forward are all that really need to be directly replaced.  

Roughly 12 minutes with four interesting candidates to earn that time.  I'm sure someone will emerge from the Tony Allen, Giddens, Miles, Walker group to fill this modest void.

Hugs are done though.  Sorry but there will be no more hugs. 

5)  Length and Athleticism in the middle

These were weaknesses last year.  This year, maybe a strength.  

Guessing Boston could draft him a few years back, I watched Patrick O'Bryant quite a bit in college.  He's very long, moves very well, and could help immensely if he works very hard.  O'Bryant is one of those long thin agile centers that are among the most unpredictable prospects to enter the league.  IF he develops he could give the Celtics a smothering interior rotation.  You place the towering Mr. OB next to Garnett and navigating the paint for the opposition will be like moving through a spider web.  I REALLY hope he shakes off his Nellie-inspired doldrums and becomes all he can be.

If O'Bryant can develop quickly and earn minutes this will be an incredible team.  If he doesn't, that's initially more playing time for Baby and Powe, but the Celtics would eventually have to find a tall back up center as they did last season in PJ Brown.

6)  Who Wears Suits?

One way to guess who will play is first to figure out who will sit:   Who will 13th, 14th, and 15th men will be?  Once you know that you can tell a lot about the rotation:

Right away I pencil Bill Walker to be inactive.  He's coming off surgery and needs to develop, maybe in the D-league.

Gabe Pruitt?  He's got to earn the spot.  Expecting him to surpass Eddie House in the line-up is asking a lot, and if he doesn't do that I don't see him being regularly activated.  

With a full 15 man roster that leaves Scalabrine or Giddens as the other man out.  Decisions on this stuff aren't made now; it's all earned in preseason. 

7)  Miles

Darius Miles might not make the team but if he does he dresses.  He's can be a prototype long 3.  It's a lot easier for Doc to plug him in there then bite his nails with a rookie.  

Three questions:  
Will he even make the team?  
Remember when Walter McCarty used to teasingly mimic Miles' signature bull-horns head pound after making a basket?
What are the odds in Vegas for Tommy Heinsohn ever uttering the phrase, "I... LOVE... DARIUS!!"   Hmmm, that one's probably a longshot.

8) Depth

The other gossamer hope of Celticphobes is that with Posey and PJ gone the Celtics will be severely weakened when the starters are off the floor.  Pardon me while I pause for a long and hearty guffaw.   I ask who among the returning bench players will be worse this season than last?  None.  Powe, Big Baby, and Tony Allen should all be better.  Eddie House will be just as good.  Plus you throw in the modern miracle of Danny Ainge's low-pick drafting ability, mix it all up, and what do you get:  More able players than minutes.

9) Find Out What It Means To Me

(Thank you Aretha.) The Celtics have earned near universal respect.  Earlier comments here about people expecting a Boston drop off are the rare exception.  Almost everywhere the team is pencilled in as the East favorites.  

As it should be. 

10) A Year Later

Looking back, last season was magical.  The pride of the franchise as been restored to full luster.  On opening night the 17th banner will rise, joining its companions from 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s...

...Then the games will begin once more and the defending world champion Boston Celtics will seek to win another title.  The world is green again.

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very positive, gant. i hope you’re right and why not!

by nazzbo on Aug 26, 2008 4:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, Gant. I really enjoy this feature. I hope you’re right about most of this!

by silvershamrocker on Aug 26, 2008 4:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gant is cheating again – 2 #5’s make this a top 11 list :P

by Jeff Clark on Aug 26, 2008 4:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oops. I’m out of practice. :)

Please consider the second #5 as a homage to the league’s real MVP, Kevin Garnett.

by Gant on Aug 26, 2008 4:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great read Gant, welcome back.

My only concern is your comment.

The real league MVP is co-shared between Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett. One without the other and we do not have a 17th banner.

Look forward to more stuff during the season.

Cheers

Aussie

by Aussie Celtic on Aug 26, 2008 5:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

When is the last time a team repeated? 2002!

The 50’s-60’s C’s did it a bunch of times…. the Jordan Bulls a few… anyone remember any others? Hakim’s Houston, the Shaq Lakers…..“The Bad Boys” from Detroit….Bird never did it….nor Cowens.
It isn’t easy…. but the key will be Ainge’s ability to replace and reinforce.

Age creeps up… no use denying it and the passion needed to over come injuries and other hardships, for “the one ring” may not be as easy to reproduce for a second.
Last year we survived Allen’s ankle, Garnett’s abdomen and Pierce’s knee injuries, will they bounce back as quickly?

Will the egos be as easily sublimated this season?
Will Pierce and Allen spend as much energy on defense again?

How much better were we than Cleveland?

You say O’Bryant, Giddens, Miles and Walker won’t be key, but unless these guys are the next Havlicek, Sam and K.C. Jones,Bailey Howell, etc…. I think the second time around will be very tough.

Danny knows what is necessary….let’s hope his choices were the right ones.

The Sixties teams were built on intellect and will as much as talent.

by JB_Celticsstuff on Aug 26, 2008 6:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Aussie. It’s great to be back on Celticsblog!

JB, I don’t mean to imply the peripheral players won’t be a factor. They will. But they’re the icing. The starters are the cake, and are the ones who will predominantly determine if another title is won.

In answer to the other questions: Egos?- No problem. Pierce and Allen continue to play D?- Si. How much better are we than Cleveland?- Enough better.

Repeating is hard and there are no guarantees. But if you have to pick one team to win it all this year, you have to go with the Celtics.

As for age related deterioration- inevitably that will happen sometime, but there’s been no indication it will be this coming year.

by Gant on Aug 26, 2008 6:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice read. But…
You can guffaw all you want, but without Posey, P.J. and (to a MUCH lesser degree) Cassell, we’re a thinner team. Period. Doesn’t matter that the others get better. We need REAL replacements for Posey and P.J. (not as much Cassell, but still), and we haven’t found them yet. Simply stated, we’re not as good as last year. We’re still very, very good — just not as good.

by Big_Easy on Aug 26, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We could argue this forever and not solve anything. I side with Big Easy – good team, but one that’s going to demand far more minutes from the Big Three because we’re very thin off the bench.
The trio isn’t young enough to weather extended minutes.

by CoachBo on Aug 26, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

As far as the bench, of the those three vets only Posey was around fort the first half of the season. PJ Brown was pretty much a non factor until his great performance in the playoffs. So looking at the early season, all you have to do is think about what the team needs to replace Posey— and in particular the small forward Posey rather than the power forward Posey.

Long term if the team has holes they’ll fill them at mid-season just like past year.

You take into account one full year together, the invaluable playoff experience, and increased athleticism; and there is reason to think this year’s team will actually be better than last year’s.
It may not show in the record- 66 wins is a lot- but by playoff time this group may be more ready to go than the 07-08 team. — no Atlanta surprises in the first round.

I see more answers than questions on the Celtics.

by Gant on Aug 26, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

1. #5—12 minutes. Danny remarked that they didn’t like Posey at the 4 and that it really didn’t work so they really didn’t use it with the purpose of going small. Danny said the one time it really worked was game 4 in the finals, the greatest comeback in NBA finals history.

2. The one thing that concerns me that wasn’t mentioned in the article is a backup for Perk. I think Powe and BBD can do the job during the regular season, but I wouldn’t count on them in the playoffs. I read today where PJB might consider coming back at midseason. And even if he’s not a true center he has the length and smarts to take care of that.

by TrueGreen on Aug 26, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice column. I like the positive attitude and have grown tired of hearing from the-glass-is-half-empty crowd.

by no kidding on Aug 26, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great discussion piece Gant. No real way to agree or disagree with all that is said untill the season actually starts. Lets indeed pray some of the gambles – POB and Miles pay off. If only one of them can come up to their potential – then the loss of Posey could be compensated.
I missed in yours and the comments one more subject – Doc. Two years ago it was can Doc – last year he was a hero in his rotations and managing the playing time – especially of the (then) big 3. Which Doc will we see this year?

by bigal_nl on Aug 27, 2008 6:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It will be anything but easy, but with relatively good health among the starters (especiallt PG&A), I see many places where they can should improve from last year to make up for the loss of Posey.

Perk and Rondo for starters should continue to develope. A healthy more experienced Tony Allen with a more consistent role,along with Powe, Baby and Pruitt advancements, and the possibilities from one or two of the rookies, O’Bryant and Miles are really promising. Scal should not be dismissed. If he can find his shot (of course iffy), since he does so many of the underappreciated things well, he could have a bigger role.

As I was saying there are many ways they could be even better than last year, even from PG&A familiarity. The hardest ingredient for them to compensate for, one way or another, will be the individual, and especially team defensive glue that Posey had a big part in during the playoffs.

Yes JB, hard work, team-focused commitment will need to be there, and last year’s success could subtly distract them from the kind of single mindedness they had in 2007-2008. But my guess is that Garnett, Allen and Pierce will be driven by their character and their bonds formed last year that will be reinforced by having targets on their backs all 2008-2009. Combine with that their joyful experience with success, the urgency that comes from their knowledge that they have a limited window of opportunity and, I suspect, the players’ belief in the tradition that great Celtic teams don’t win just one championship, but compete for it all pretty much every year, and they will have more than the motivation they need.

With a second championship they will become a more full-fledged member of the club occupied by the other Celtic championship teams of the 50’s & 60’s, the early 70’s and the 80’s. I think they’ll have a good shot at it.

by SteveZ from Edgemont on Aug 28, 2008 2:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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