Doc Is Exactly The Same Guy

which is a problem if your team is not championship material. you have to have some differences with a last place team full of youngsters. and that is why we lost 24 games. but it doesn’t matter anymore! because we have players that Doc can coach. yessss

• won 24 games

I think Doc’s patience when we were bad and excellence when we were great is a testament to his character and coaching abilities, which are signifantly greater than virtually everyone on this blog gave him credit for before the beginning of last season. Shows how amatuerish we are when it comes to evaluating good coaching.

Doc did a terrific job with the players that he had in ’08.
He will have a different kind of team in ’09 without Posey.
It will be interesting to see how he blends the younger players
into a decent 2nd unit.

The problem is you can’t be the same guy with two completely different teams. That should be taken as a backhanded complement or a flat insult.

Doc did a terrific job of implementing and teaching the youngsters an incoherent defensive concept for 3 consecutive seasons and a better job using youth as an excuse for his constantly getting embarrasingly outcoached time after time.

He also did a terrific job of getting out of Thibodeau’s way and letting Thibodeau rebuild and implement an NBA defense. Doc did a solid job of managing egos in 07-08.

You know, it is so patently obvious that the owners were referring to demeanor, attitude, etc. in those comments, that anyone who tries to use that to suggest Doc implemented the exact same techniques with players, obviously has an agenda that a Championship, or even 2 for that matter, won’t solve. Doc played under Mike Fratello for years in Atlanta, as his point guard, the coach on the floor, and most know of Fratello’s defensive rep.

Thibodeau did not singlehandedly turn things around, he had this chap named KG, who happened to win Defensive Player of the Year, an intriguing choice compared to most years, since he did not have gaudy #s, but he was recognized for his instrumental role in the team defense of the C’s as a whole. Thibs, KG, Doc, and many others all take some share in the credit for winning it all, it was a team accomplishment. But attempts to diminish Doc by promoting Thibs to ethereal status without any understanding the effort the players actually put forth misses the mark. Doc knows a heck of a lot about defense, far more than any fan who writes on this blog, he did far more than manage egos last year. Ask the players if they think Doc was some sort of Wade Phillips and if Thibodeau implemented all of the basketball stuff. If one has listened to their public comments, they would know the answer.