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Celtics/Raptors: Part 2

Toronto Raptors at Boston Celtics, Jan 12, 2009 7:30 PM EST


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Toronto Raptors (16-22) at Boston Celtics (30-9)
Monday January 12
7:30 PM ET
Regular Season Game #40,  Road Game #21
TV:  NBA-TV,  CSN HD
TD Banknorth Garden 

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For the second game in a row, the Celtics are facing the Toronto Raptors.  In Sunday's afternoon game, the Celtics came away with a win and showed some signs of coming out of their slump but, they also allowed the Raptors to cut a 20 point lead to 5 before escaping with a win. 

I expect the Raptors will take a look at what worked in the 4th quarter and try to come out with that to begin the game.  There has been bad blood between these two teams since Gerald Green slammed in a breakaway dunk to put an exclamation point on a blow out win. The games between these two division rivals are always chippy and I expect that to continue in this game.  

It would be nice to see the Celtics give a strong effort for two games in a row and start a new win streak with back to back wins against this division rival.

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Coach: Doc Rivers
Average Age: 26.7
Average Height: 6-6
Average Weight: 222


Probable Starters

Rondo/  R Allen/  Pierce/  Garnett/  Perkins

Injuries:
Tony Allen  (ankle)  day to day
Kendrick Perkins (shoulder) probable
Kevin Garnett (leg) probable
Paul Pierce (knee)  probable
Rajon Rondo (leg, shoulder) probable




Coach: Jay Triano
Average Age: 26.7
Average Height: 6-7
Average Weight: 226[\b]

Probable Starters

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Solomon/ Parker/ Moon/  Bosh/ Bargnani

Injuries
Jermaine O'Neal  (knee)  out
Jose Calderon  (hamstring) out

Key Matchups
  vs  [image]
Rajon Rondo   PPG 10.7 RPG 4.70 APG 7.6 EFF + 17.61
Will Solomon   PPG 4.9 RPG 1.1 APG 3.3  

  vs 
Kevin Garnett   PPG 16.2 RPG 9.00 APG 2.6 EFF + 21.73 
Chris Bosh   PPG 23.8 RPG 9.80 APG 2.6 EFF + 25.65 

Honorable Mention
Ray Allen     PPG 17.5 RPG 3.50 APG 2.7 EFF + 16.08
Anthony Parker    PPG 9.6 RPG 3.10 APG 2.4 EFF + 10.26

Game Notes
Ray Allen was hot in the game in Toronto, hitting 8 of 10 from beyond the arc.  Hopefully he will stay hot as they continue the rivalry at home. 

Perk missed the first game of this home and home series but was hoping he would be ready to play in the second game between these two. .    Scal did a good job of filling in for Perk in his absence but it would be nice to have Perk back. 

Keys to the Game
Defense  
The Celtics got back to their defensive identity for 3 quarters in Sunday's game but let up in the 4th quarter.   They need to get back to defending for 4 quarters.  The Raptors are a good perimeter shooting team and so the Celtics must guard the 3 point line along with defending the interior. 

Rebound   The Raptors out-rebounded the Celtics by one in their first meeting and the Celtics need to be more aggressive to keep the Raptors off the boards. 

Take Care of the Ball The Celtics have been turning the ball over too much and the Raptors will make them pay by converting them on the other end. They have to take cut doen on their turnovers.  They had just 12 in Sunday's game and they need to keep them down in this game as well. 

Play 48 Minutes   The Celtics have gotten in the habit of playing hard for periods and then letting up.  The Celtics must get back to constant effort because other teams are playing 4 quarters against them  and they can't afford to take any quarters off.

X-Factor
Home Court
Both teams had to travel and both are playing in the second of back to back games.  Both teams have some momentum considering the Celtics won the game, but the Raptors came back from 20 points down to cut the lead to 5 down the stretch.    The Celtics are at home and that could be the difference in this game. 

 

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Still have a shot at 73 wins!

All we have to do is win all the rest of our games.

Easy enough, right?

"Would I rather be feared or loved? Easy. Both. I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." Michael Scott

by Jeff Clark on Jan 12, 2009 3:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Back2back

Didn’t realize the second game was tonight. Normally I’d favor the C’s in this situation, but the fact that they seem completely wiped out already doesn’t bode well. If TA is back and/or if Walker plays, it would be nice to see…

by chunnamark on Jan 12, 2009 3:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don’t care if they win. Pierce should rest, and so, probably, should Garnett.

by Brickowski on Jan 12, 2009 3:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Lucky if they win 50

Sad to say it, but our glorious Celtics are going down fast. So many problems, it’s hard to see how they’ll fix them all, especially with Doc Rivers making the decisions
- Perk is out. Why? Because somebody SLAPPED HIS ARM. If his shoulder is that delicate, there is little chance that he will make it through this year. One more slap and he could be out for good.
- Rondo’s critical flaw (no jumper) is now an open secret. EVERY team we face from now on will look to exploit it.
- Pierce is playing ok to poorly. Something’s going on there. Don’t know what, but it has been going on all year.
- BB Davis is just ridiculous as a player. Does not belong in the NBA. He is too short for his position, too slow, arms too short, legs too short, no ups… and oh yeah, he’s FAT. Come on, we all love these guys who won with this team last year — BECAUSE they’re so unusual — but BBD is a joke, and should not be playing at all.
- Doc Rivers is much MUCH worse than I thought he was. Lets BBD play 30 min while O’Bryant sits. Has Pruitt — who has handles, ups, athleticism, a good jumper and good passing — but hardly uses him. Why is that exactly? And our 2 hotshot rookies have yet to see playing time. They might help. How do you know unless you try? Weird.

by DRJ1 on Jan 12, 2009 4:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

calm down

BBD. Belongs in NBA. I remember last year when KG was out we played San Antonio. BBD completely shut down Tim Duncan. Pruitt should be used more, but lets let Doc use the tools he has. This team is going through a rough patch. Don’t press the panic button. Calm down. There is still no team in the East that can rival us. I know the Cavs look good. But if you shut down Lebron you shut them down

by sdhman11 on Jan 12, 2009 5:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

wow...

so you think the defending champs will be lucky to finish the season 20-23?

just wow.

by WillyBeamin on Jan 12, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

Unless O’bryant and Pruitt and/or JR and/or Walker step up big, the answer is yes, they are likely to go <50% between now and the end of the season.

by DRJ1 on Jan 12, 2009 6:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not overly optimistic about this game. we may gut out a win but it will take another big night from someone- Ray ALlen again? to win this game. Had we finished the game strong yesterday I might be more optimisitc but right now we’re tired, hurt and there is no cavalry on the bench. It’s time to start developing gabe, billy and JR to see if they can help us win some games with hustle and hops. Pierce needs 3 weeks off and I’m worried that his knee will be an issue all year. garnett is beat and perk is, well, he’s a play away from being out for the rest of the year. HIs shoulder is now chronic and will plague him the rest of his career. we’re starting to look like a one and done team and we have no first round pick this year. I say let’s take the rest of the year to get ourselves ready for the playoffs- assuming we get there

by Red2 on Jan 12, 2009 5:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

see comment above chill out.

we won 19 in a row earlier this year. No one was griping about the close wins then. This team needs rest. Especially the starters. This may sound stupid but one of these nights. Doc should start the bench

by sdhman11 on Jan 12, 2009 5:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Walker

Billy Walker should def get some burn tonight with PP and TA both out. I have high hopes for this kid, he might one day be the face of the Celtics.

by Champzilla on Jan 12, 2009 5:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Walker, JR, Patrick, Pruitt

I agree, we have some good potential sitting on the bench. Every one of these guys has shown us some good stuff, rookies in D League, POB and Pruitt in play. It’s time to find out what they can really do. You know, before the Titanic went down, I’m sure there was somebody counseling calm. I think you need to remain proactive in this and all other endeavors, or you will sink someday. Celtics are sinking fast… now is the time to look for solutions, because it will too late before we know it.

by DRJ1 on Jan 12, 2009 5:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Deep Doo Doo

I can’t recall such a dramatic negative turnaround not caused by major injury in any major sport. It has gotten to a point where I think it’s a combination of nagging injuries, some fatigue and team psychology. If the latter is mostly the reason for the drop off, I think it can be overcome however we still miss Posey more than most people thought we would.

by The Real Large James 2 on Jan 12, 2009 5:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Fatigue

I’ve heard this explanation of fatigue in a few places. What does it mean, exactly? Every team in the NBA is playing roughly the same schedule. Celts have played 2-3 games more than others. Is that the cause of this overwhelming “fatigue”. I don’t think so. “Fatigue” to me is a euphemism for “loss of will”. Teams like the Cavs… never stop trying, every game, every minute. Like the Cs were last year. This year our boys are giving up too easily. Ok, not KG… it’s not in his DNA. And not Ray. But most everybody else. They had the fire at the beginning of the year, but now that other teams have integrated their new players and gotten tougher, the Cs are folding more.

Maybe it’s “We have our championship. We’re getting older. This hurts, that hurts. Wtf, it’s not that important anymore.”

by DRJ1 on Jan 12, 2009 6:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Now your making sense

They need a few days off. Not so much for physical rest but mental rest. They need some time to bond together as a team. Just some mellow days. All the time they seem tight on the court. Its like they aren’t having fun. They need to get together over the All Star break and have a drunken pool party. It sounds ridiculous. But it will help get all of the tension out

by sdhman11 on Jan 12, 2009 6:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Celtics should throw a drunken pool party at the All-Star break? Man, that’d be a huge hit with Donald Stern. Sort of like that drunken cruise party the Minnesota Vikings had a year or two back.

by no kidding on Jan 12, 2009 7:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I fully understand. But then, the Vikings had also planned to keep things on the quiet.

by no kidding on Jan 12, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

besides being caught is there any downside?

by sdhman11 on Jan 12, 2009 8:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Pierce's Missed a FT

Bargnani hits a three….OT?

by Fundefined on Jan 12, 2009 9:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Pierce must have been on amphetamines. Great offensive game.

by Brickowski on Jan 12, 2009 10:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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