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Idea: Mike Miller?

Ken Berger has a pretty good article on some folks that might be changing addresses in the next month.  One name he tossed out as an idea for the Celtics is Mike Miller.

2. Mike Miller, Timberwolves: Who wouldn't want a 28-year-old, 40-percent career 3-point shooter on a short contract? The Timberwolves, who are heading nowhere but the lottery with or without him. Miller is getting healthy again after missing time with an ankle injury, and his shooting touch will be in demand. The Knicks need someone to make 3s to free up Mike D'Antoni's system, and Miller's contract ($9.75 million next season) satisfies the Knicks' desire not to add long-term money.

Just thinking out loud here, but couldn't the Celtics use Miller's shooting touch off the bench with losses and injuries mounting? If Doc Rivers could find a way to hide Miller's defensive deficiencies, his shooting and rebounding could be just what Boston needs to replace James Posey. Miller turns 29 on Feb. 19. What could be a better birthday present than a trade to the defending champs?

At first I thought the idea was loony.  There's no way we would have the salaries to match up with a 9M contract.  Then I fiddled with the trade machine and found out that a package of Scal, House, and Tony actually works money-wise.

Of course it only saves the Wolves $1M next year and it doesn't make alot of basketball sense for them.  So don't count on it unless they are desperate to save money (not likely).  Then again, maybe Kevin could do us one last favor before getting the boot this offseason.

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I would think CLE would be at the top of that list. They could offer Wally and get back Miller and Madsen and save Minny $13 mil and it still would not tie up money for 2010 FA because both Miller and Madsen contracts are up then…

would love Miller, though. shooting from the wing is definitely the one area i hope they add to…

by winsomme on Jan 14, 2009 11:10 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed

other teams have much more to offer

"Would I rather be feared or loved? Easy. Both. I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." Michael Scott

by Jeff Clark on Jan 14, 2009 11:13 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’d love to get Mike Miller. He’s a real good player on the right team. I’d even sweaten the pot a bit with a draft pick or Giddens, etc.

by moiso on Jan 14, 2009 11:30 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

McHale & Co

they’re not really going to make another trade with the Cs. it’s just not going to happen. #32’s house would be egged by every other GM in the league.

by ssspence on Jan 14, 2009 11:32 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Id love the to get Miller, and he would love to come here, hes stated Doc was his favorite coach and im sure hes sick of playing on bad teams

by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 14, 2009 11:32 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, the C’s would have to give up too much. Miller isn’t that much of an upgrade over House, and at least House can impersonate a point guard if necessary.

Besides, Miller needs a haircut. He has the worst hair in the NBA after Chris Kaman.

by Brickowski on Jan 14, 2009 11:34 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's right, you're wrong

Miller for House straight up? I’d keep House. Miller can shoot but he can go cold. Just like Eddie.

by Wildblu1 on Jan 15, 2009 2:06 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

would love him with open arms

if miller becomes a celtic we know McHale is the in love with helping danny win another ring for the C’s

by tommyfan on Jan 14, 2009 11:35 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like Miller BUT

we lose a unreliable wing , a decent jump shooting guard and a forward who shoots around 33% from the 3 line himself. I am not sure we come out net ahead on that. PP is going to have problems guarding Kobe and LeBron without getting rest of them for 15 mins a game(pose in past, TA this year??)

by wahz on Jan 14, 2009 11:41 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If what goes down however is we add a key player one for one up grade on the floor like Miller, but also get a couple free agents then we CLEARLY improve. In other words if we got Miller in a trade and then starbury and and a big as free agents, we are upgraded in a significant way. Scary though:I don’t even like Tony but I am worried about having a back up to PP

by wahz on Jan 14, 2009 11:45 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

defense

in the playoffs, we usually started Ray on both of them (at least kobe), then had PP guard them in the 4th if im not mistaken

by action781 on Jan 14, 2009 12:40 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I understand

but what went down last year during the actual games was that Posey was on them when he was in around 50% of the time and no less than that. and pp was on lebron more than ray was. Bottom line: we need an athletic wing for around ten minutes a game on Lebron and Kobe who isn’t PP or Ray. that is Tony right now so if we drop him we need someone else, imho.

by wahz on Jan 14, 2009 1:29 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would not get rid of House for this dude. Or TA for that matter.

People on here are incredibly critical and tend to freak out and demand sweeping changes, but in my view Eddie offers a huge “clutch” aspect to the bench that we can not afford to get rid of. Also, TA still has a lot of improvement to make and has a place on this team. Once Pruitt grows better into his role as bench PG, TA and House will be much more effective as bench scorers. The one aspect of the bench that truly needs improvement is the Center position. We need another effective big man.

by NoobSaibot1994 on Jan 14, 2009 11:46 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This idea is about more than Miller

First of all, I think you’re underestimating Miller a bit. He’s a former 6th Man of the Year (and ROY) winner , which shows he can produce off the bench from a game to game basis. That’s something you can’t say about either Scal, TA or House (at least not this season).

Then you have to think about Millers size. He’s that 6’8 guy that the bench needs. He can easily play the 2 and 3 but I have to admit that 4 is a strech for him. So he’s no perfect Posey replacement, but he does alot more on the offensive end than Posey (and it’s obvious that Miller can be somewhat of a liability on defense, but Ray Allen was also a poor defender before he joined the Cs. I’d be amazed if he didn’t step up, if he got to Boston).

And on top of that, he’s a very good 3-point shooter, perhaps better than House. He’s a 40% career shooter from downtown while House is shooting 38,1%..

Plus, if this was a probable trade (which I wouldn’t say it is), it would also open two roster spots for a point-guard (Marbury) and a big body..

I can see why Minny wouldn’t do this, but certainly not why the Celts wouldn’t. This trade would solve so many issues.

by Shots on Jan 14, 2009 1:42 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dump Tony

Mike Miller is way better than Tony Allen. Tony has a lot of improving to do and he isn’t doing it, he was supposed to be good this year and make up for Posey but that isn’t happening.

by Jmicro on Jan 15, 2009 12:47 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another thing

During the win streak and the earlier part of the season, it was generally acknowledged on this site that TA was the most important scorer off the bench and the bench’s overall effectiveness suffered greatly without him. Then he gets a little hurt, loses some efficiency and everyone can’t wait to insult his intelligence and demand for him to be traded. My point is – the general attitude of this site is very reactionary and tends to flip-flop greatly based on the outcome of a game or a few games. I really like this site, but the negativity is very disappointing much of the time and frustrating to read.

by NoobSaibot1994 on Jan 14, 2009 11:53 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I blame the internet

yup, we do overreact a lot, but I guess that’s part of the fun! ;)

"Would I rather be feared or loved? Easy. Both. I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." Michael Scott

by Jeff Clark on Jan 14, 2009 12:25 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The team doesn’t have the pieces to get it done. Miller would have been a nice fit though.

by Who on Jan 14, 2009 11:57 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The deal would make sense if two things happen.

1. We include a 1st rounder (lotto protected, of course)
2. Starbury gets bought out and lands here, taking over Eddie’s minutes.

Not saying that I would be in favor of this happening… but if DA is dead-set on getting Starbury, you’d be better-off with Mike Miller on the squad than Eddie. It would also free up a roster spot for another veteran free agent, even after adding Starbury.

by theBird on Jan 14, 2009 11:58 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think I’d be alright rolling with Gabe Pruitt if the C’s had a player of Miller’s caliber next to him.

I think Miller has done a good job with his passing and ball handling for Minnesota this season. He’d be able to help out whatever point guard was out there. You’d also have one of Ray Allen and Paul Pierce too, so you’re point guard would be getting great help from your wings.

by Who on Jan 14, 2009 12:09 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m perfectly fine with no-Starbury as well, but if that’s the direction Danny is heading then you’ve got to figure that he’ll be looking to get value for House as well. Figure they still need to do SOMETHING to free up some roster spots, as well.

by theBird on Jan 14, 2009 12:24 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dont forget

we still have sam i am too

by action781 on Jan 14, 2009 12:41 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

miles

last nite darius had 13pts in 13mins…i feel if memphis doesnt sign him after the 10 days i think the celtics could go back after him

by tcelt on Jan 14, 2009 12:29 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Would sure be nice..

Miller would be awesome in Boston, but I strongly doubt that the Wolves would settle for that package.

 I doubt Cavaliers would bid Sczerbiak for him though, as I’m sure they’d chose to get a ‘big’ upgrade for him, or keep their current roster. And in my opinion Miller is equal to Sczerbiak..

But hey, the Lakers proved last year that all trades that work capwise are ‘realistic,’ so guess I’ll pray for this to happen!

by Shots on Jan 14, 2009 12:45 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Cavs would just keep Wally if all they wanted was a three point shooter who doesn’t defend. Wally is just as good as Mike Miller.

by Brickowski on Jan 14, 2009 1:24 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m surprised so many here would be interested in losing three guys (House, Scalabrine, and Tony) for a someone with a suspect ankle and poor defense.

by no kidding on Jan 14, 2009 1:34 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Without the ridiculous trade ideas, Celticsblog wouldn’t be nearly as entertaining.

There will be player shuffling for financial reasons at the deadline, but the only potential impact player who is likely to change hands is Shawn Marion. I would not be surprised to see him go to the Cavs.

Instead of targeting someone like Miller, why not go after a player who makes sense, like Nick Collison? I’d give up Scalabrine, House and Powe (or Davis) to get him.

by Brickowski on Jan 14, 2009 1:50 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cleveland

Does anyone else worry that if Cleveland makes a big move (using Wally’s expiring contract) that we might overreact with a panic move of our own? Say Cleveland gets someone like Jamison, Carter, or Kirilenko. It doesn’t matter who, but assume (reasonably) that they add a significant piece. Any chance Ainge reacts like Phoenix and Dallas did to the Gasol move last year? Because we don’t have spare young talent, large expirings, and first round picks to give, the only way to really get anything significant would be to give up a contributing asset — Rondo, Perkins, or Allen. While there might be plausible deals where you turn one of them into 2-3 solid players and thereby improve our depth and overall talent, it would still be a terrible knee jerk reaction to break up our core, right?

by Larry.Loving. on Jan 14, 2009 2:22 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

here's the deal

Or at least my opinion on the state of the Celtics! Ainge took a gamble on OBryant bec of his youth and lost. Perk is going to suffer from this shoulder injury throughout his career and we don’t have nay trading chips. We have a Big baby and Leon. Leon is the better offense out of the two but because of his size you can’t move big baby and that’s it. So be happy we got title 17 last year! It won’t happen again unless perhaps Rondo becomes a 54% shooter from 15 and 18ft out!

by richardlight on Jan 14, 2009 2:50 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

NEVER GONNA HAPPEN

Aside from the fact that the deal does nothing for the Wolves, can we really afford to trade 3 of our rotation guys for 1? We don’t have the depth.

by bigmikek7 on Jan 14, 2009 3:30 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We can only hope

When you win the NBA championship I wish other teams would want to deal with us for a need at a certain position. I would be surprised if anyone wanted to help us unless we gave them an extra player to make it work and that would not happen. I think we can only hope for acquiring a unrestricted free agent, someone cut from another team, somebody from the NBDL or promote someone from our own roster and change things from there.

by CelticsWin on Jan 14, 2009 3:40 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cannot and Will not Occur

As much as I would love to see Mike Miller as our sixth man, it is jsut not possible. We really have NOTHING to offer Minnesota in this trade. As much as an improvement Miller is individually over TA, Scal and House, it would ultimately deplete our bench.

I think a much better idea is to try and get one of these bigs out there being shopped such as Diop from Dallas.

by OhioCelticFan on Jan 14, 2009 4:06 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not happening

This isn’t happening. We wouldn’t want to tip the apple cart that much just for Mike Miller even if Minnesota was willing to do this deal. The Celts aren’t going to make a sweeping trade; they’re going to add someone or trade prospects and picks at a maximum.

by dobbs on Jan 14, 2009 5:23 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don’t think Mike Miller is nearly the player that he was 2-3 years ago. We sometimes make the mistake of allowing past performance to cloud our objective evaluation of what a player can contribute today.

If Miller were that good, he’d be playing big minutes for the Wolves with Corey Brewer hurt and McCants in the doghouse (where that selfish gunner should have been all along). Instead, McHale has given those minutes to Rodney Carney, who has done a nice job recently.

by Brickowski on Jan 14, 2009 6:07 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There’s a big difference going from a team’s best perimeter player to becoming a team’s fourth best perimeter player. Miller will get the easy shot attempts that he doesn’t receive in Minnesota while in a Celtics uniform.

by Who on Jan 14, 2009 6:34 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I disagree. Miller should get plenty of open looks when the defenses collapse on Big Al. Everyone else on the Wolves is getting open looks on the perimeter: Foye, Love, Gomes, Telfair, Carney. Why should Miller be any different?

by Brickowski on Jan 14, 2009 10:42 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I partially agree and partially disagree.

The Wolves are 28th in the league in eFG. This despite having three perimeter players who last season posted double digit scoring averages efficiently and on 40 from downtown. That plus guys like Gomes. I expected them as a team to be shooting the ball a lot better this season, and to be significantly improved squad on the offensive end of the floor.

I also think perimeter players like Rondo, Pierce and Ray are great for creating space and jump shots for players like Mike Miller …. particularly Rondo. Miller doesn’t have anyone who does that for him in Minnesota.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Foye spend a good chuck of this season struggling with his shot only to hit a hot streak over the past month? Foye is shooting an almost identical mark to Miller also.

Carney and Telfair are players you’d prefer shooting threes against other guys. They should be getting some looks. Carney’s jump shot has been inconsistent so far in his career, although it’s better than he’s shown to date. We all know Telfair’s jumper.

Also the Jason Kapono problem, where opponents stick to him like glue and allow his other teammates to hit three pointers. Similar situation with Mike Miller?

Partially agree and partially disagree … I do think Miller should be doing better in Sota, but I also think he’d get a big boost from joining a squad like Boston.

by Who on Jan 14, 2009 11:03 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

doc and miller go together. that would help miller here. miller is no great shakes on defense but is better than wally was and wally was smart enough to play the passing lanes and get out on break.miller is not a stupid player. on the other hand, i would much rather have a collison, because we need a big. no way la would ever let us get chris mihm?

by nazzbo on Jan 14, 2009 11:28 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LA would be delighted to give us Mihm— for the right price.

Mihm should have tuck to swimming.

by Brickowski on Jan 14, 2009 11:37 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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