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Starting Five - 1/15

We are halfway through the season and I'm not sure we know exactly what we have with this team.  It feels like we've had two seasons already.  One perfect one (27-2) and one pathetic one (the recent slide). 

Thankfully we've turned things around lately and we might be headed in the right direction.  I compared these Toronto and New Jersey games to free throws and layups to get a shooter back in rhythm. So far so good.  The Raptors games were the free throws (one of which bounced around the rim before going in) and so far we've had one layup against the Nets.

So there's hope we can put the slide behind us and get back to a Championship pace.  Hey, don't look now, but we still have a shot at the Bulls record.  All we have to do is win all the rest of the games this year.

Here are some more bullet points to start your day.

Star-divide

  • Loved listening to Wyc in the 2nd quarter last night.  He's not shy about his opinion is he?  He wants Danny to improve the roster.  Specifically he's hoping for some "beef" to match up with the Cavs and probably another guard too.  I don't think this is a matter of him telling Danny how to do his job.  I think this is more a case where he has an idea of what Danny is looking for and it matches what he sees as needs as a fan of the team.
  • For those subscribing to the "showcase" theory, it was a good night for showing off Big Baby.  As Justin Poulin pointed out in his podcap, Baby was even out on the floor for a little bit of garbage time (Project O'Bryant only saw 5 minutes of court time).  Side note:  Is Big Baby the new Tony Allen?  He's shows signs of brilliance intersperced with head scratching bouts of mistake prone basketball.  Love the effort, but I'd like to see more consistency.
  • Great to see Bill Walker get some run.  However, if you believe that Baby is being showcased, is it safe to assume that Bill Walker got extended garbage time minutes because he's one of the few young tradable chips we have?  (Giddens didn't see the floor)  Just asking.  Don't shoot me.
  • Rondo had 11 points (5-9 FGs), 12 assists, 7 boards, 3 steals, and 4 turnovers.  Harris had 17 points (5-9 FGs), 3 assists, 2 boards, 3 steals, and 6 turnovers.  They go at it again on Saturday, but Rondo is unfazed.
  • The team has two full days off before visiting New Jersey this weekend.  I suggest at least one day of absolute couch potato vegging.  Do nothing all day.  That will be very hard for guys like Pierce and KG who seem to thrive on working out.  Maybe take another day to get in a good practice and work on some things that have been slipping.  In particular I'm sure Tom Thibodeau has some words for the guys on rotations and responsibilities.

We're halfway through the year.  A little much-needed rest before one more game against the Nets (hopefully another layup) and then the schedule starts heating up with games against the Suns, Heat, and Magic next week.  That stretch will tell us if the team has truely turned a corner or if they were just beating up on the bad teams this week.

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one win at a time. dont look for future games, just concentrate on who they will play next and they will be fine. Let the coach and his staff make the plan for upcoming schedules, by that there will be no much pressure in their minds.

Let those rookies play in decent minutes, win or loss or even attach them with the starters.
Good win and looking forward for more.

by spoiled on Jan 15, 2009 8:34 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I’ve felt since the summer that they keep Walker and trade GIddens. Of course I’ve barely seen GIddens play and he did well in the D league so I would love to see what he can do. He has length and can shoot which is a skill that walker doesn’t have. Still, walker can defend and play the backup 3 and he could probably replace tony allen thereby making him tradeable. I also think Gabe has shown he belongs in the NBA whether on our team or another so he has value. If there’s a market for TA I’d trade him in a heartbeat. Sure he can score 30 on you one night but the next night he’s MIA. Baby seems to be playing harder. I think he knows he’s on the block. Scal appears to be safe and as much as it pains me to say it he has helped the team the past few games. But you have to give something to get something and he makes the most $ on the team so he’s obviously in the mix when it comes to doing a deal.

by Red2 on Jan 15, 2009 9:19 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Why does Scal appear to be safe?

If a trade is to happen, Scal will almost certainly go, because his contract is needed to make the numbers work.

by Bankshot on Jan 15, 2009 9:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bill Walker makes me wonder if he’s Tony Allen with more self-control. Pruitt again looked good playing defense and handling pressure while dribbling. I think he’s the answer as backup point guard.

And once again, O’Bryant looked good during the chaotic garbage minutes he was out. Several have taken particular notice of his two air balls, but he looked good in defense, particularly in bothering shots. And since I seem to take a minority view on playing O’Bryant, I was interested to hear that Tommy Heinsohn shares it with me.

by no kidding on Jan 15, 2009 9:27 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

You really think Pruitt is they guy we should go into playoffs as our backup? hes abysmal at running the offense, he has a decent shot, that is it…hes another eddie

by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 15, 2009 9:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's a matter of time, which is why Pruitt needs to be annointed "the guy."

The ability to run an offense, especially with a constantly changing backup unit, is one of the last things that can be assessed about a point guard. Things like man and team defense, ball-handling, shooting, penetration, and passing, all can be judged rather quickly. But the ability to run an offense, with everything that entails, well, that’s always more of a work in progress. It’s mostly a question of time.

It isn’t just that the new point guard needs to develop certain patterns and rhythms with this teammates, it’s also the teammates need to learn their roles with him at the point (because every point guard brings a different offense). Also the coaches suddenly start asking for different things, based on the skill set of the point guard. It’s a complicated, organic kind of thing. Look at the situation with Rondo, and how it’s changed, and how unsettled it still is. It’s a learning process for everyone involved.

But in balance, yes, Pruitt seems to have the saavy to be a good backup point guard in this league. Eddie House is not comparable to him. Eddie’s a backup 2, and a pretty decent one. But he’s no point guard.

by no kidding on Jan 15, 2009 10:23 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

pruitt running the offense poorly?

in like the 5 games the guy’s played in for 10 minutes? give him a chance to learn and build confidence. meanwhile, he’s bigger than eddie, he’s a better defender than eddie, and his shot actually goes in much of the time. what i mean by that is — does eddie’s ever go in? does it ever go in at crucial moments? he’s a shooter who never makes shots in the cluth. he’s aweful. he’s our worst bench player when he was supposed to be the best.

by ssspence on Jan 15, 2009 10:24 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No
Bill Walker makes me wonder if he’s Tony Allen with more self-control.

No. I’ve watched both guys play since college (Giddens too) and Walker is nothing like Allen. Walker was an offensive stud from the moment he stepped on the court but has a history of caring less about defense. He almost treated it like it was beneath him. His coach was fighting to keep his job and I think Keeping both Walker and Beasley happy was his number one priority. Classic case of when the superstars screwed up the rest of the team took the heat.

Allen got his minutes only because of his defense. On nights he didn’t bring it defensively Sutton had no qualms about sitting him. His offense improved incrementally year by year, but he often played like a bull in a china chop offensively.

by Jaycelt on Jan 15, 2009 9:59 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So as someone who’s spent a decent amount of time watching Walker, you’re saying you don’t think he’ll work hard enough to play good defense in the NBA. That’s interesting. (I certainly don’t know.)

by no kidding on Jan 15, 2009 10:28 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think he said that

Just that Tony Allen has always been a defensive stalwart with an often suspect offense while Walker’s strength has always been an offensive force while providing subpar defense. I am of the same opinion (although I don’t remember Allen playing for the Cowboys).

Walker reminds me a lot of a young Bonzi Wells. I think it’s the best comparison for him, when it comes to recent or current NBA players.

by cordobes on Jan 15, 2009 11:17 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure what the difference of opinion is here.

cordobes,

Jaycelt, you, and most of the known universe believes Tony Allen has “an often suspect offense.” I agree, which is why I wrote, “Bill Walker makes me wonder if he’s Tony Allen with more self-control.”

But Jaycelt didn’t agree with that assessment, and wrote what he wrote. Because I wasn’t sure of his meaning, I rephrased his statement, to see if he wanted to amplify on it. For instance, does he believe Walker won’t work hard enough to play good defense in the NBA. Or is there something else, far more important, that makes Bill Walker “unlike a Tony Allen with more self-control.”

I’d like to to understand more about Walker.

by no kidding on Jan 15, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know about him

What I saw from Walker was a fairly vulgar lateral quickness, not a lot of awareness (he had some mental meltdowns on the defensive side) and very poor defensive technique (to the point he wouldn’t keep his defensive stance every possession). Allen has better instincts, physical tools and is more polished as a defender.

I don’t think one can conclude from this if he’s going to work hard enough to play in the NBA or not. He doesn’t seem lazy and, by all accounts I’ve read, he’s great work ethic.. It’s just that so far (at least until last season) he showed a lot more of promise on the offensive side; while Tony was always known by his defensive prowess.

I also don’t think their offensive games are really that similar, besides the suspect jumper (that Walker is apparently improving) and the will to attack the rim. Allen plays like a guard (albeit one with poor handling and vision), with a great 1st step; Walker is more like a PF, with a post game, explosive attacking the basket with a short power dribble. I’ve watched Walker playing as a “bull in a china shop” as well, I don’t see that as a big difference (except, and this is very important, that Walker is still a 20 years old rookie).

by cordobes on Jan 15, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting, thanks.

by no kidding on Jan 15, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually

No one knows how hard Walker will work on defense because up until this point no coach has made him, that was my point.
Allen had a coach that made defense a priority.
Walker had a coach that owed his job to a Walker and Beasley (at the time) and was well aware of it.

I never said Walker couldn’t be a good defender if he worked at it. He obviously has all the skills. I just don’t know how you can look at the guy and think TA when they are exact opposites.

by Jaycelt on Jan 15, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Exact opposites? Perhaps that’s an overstatement.

by no kidding on Jan 16, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I am of the same opinion (although I don’t remember Allen playing for the Cowboys).

You should google the OSU-SU NCAA Tournament game in 2003.
Tony Allen did a masterful job on Carmelo Anthony in the first half holding him to 2 points.
Unfortunately Allen had to sit with 3 fouls in the second half and Melo found his touch.
That just goes to show you how easily history can change. If Allen hadn’t gotten into foul trouble there’s a very good chance there would have been a different NCAA Champion in ’03.

by Jaycelt on Jan 15, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Another question

Can Bill be an appropriate replacement for TA? Their body type is similar, but that’s very interesting to hear the offense vs. defense comparison. If all he has to do is learn how to play defense, then maybe Bill Stays and Tony goes, no?

by chunnamark on Jan 15, 2009 10:35 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I doubt Walker has the tools

to become a good defensive wing so fast.

by cordobes on Jan 15, 2009 11:17 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Personally,

I think Powe is the one being showcased. He’s a good offensive player only against certain matchups and doesn’t play good defense against bigs, which is what we need out bigs to do the most. The most often used phrase by the Celtics commentators regarding Powe: “This is a tough matchup for Powe.”

by Bankshot on Jan 15, 2009 9:34 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

ditto

yes

"Would I rather be feared or loved? Easy. Both. I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." Michael Scott

by Jeff Clark on Jan 15, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

think it's realistic for memphis?

they might rather have House, which would be fine by me, but he has to consent to the trade. otherwise, i’m not giving up anyone other than giddens in this trade in place of TA. so not walker, gabe, baby. o’bryant sure but that’s not happening.

by ssspence on Jan 15, 2009 4:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't see much of a gain.

Statistically, there’s not much difference between the two pairs, especially if you adjust to minutes played. Powe’s a good deal heavier than Warrick, which in light of Celtic’s problems, helps down low. But Ross has more length than Tony, so that’d help with covering small forwards. Still, Powe’s solid demeanor seems to help the team a good deal. I’d be hesitant to screw up the locker room chemistry.

by no kidding on Jan 15, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

if thyere is a trade brewing, i think it’s less about what we give up and more about what we get. i hated to see big al, gomes, and delonte go, but look at what we got.

by nazzbo on Jan 15, 2009 10:23 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

It certainly can work the other way. There are frequently deals made where teams come to regret who they traded off. Who knows? Bill Walker could be one of those guys.

by no kidding on Jan 15, 2009 10:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Different Team

I know it’s the Nets, but they’ve been doing ok lately. But the C’s looked like a different team last nite. Home cooking. They just looked rested and played with more energy and focus. It could be their recent problems was just the schedule catching up to them. Hopefully that’s all it was. I know we need to be better and I’m sure Danny is working on this. Wyc said, when he sat in with Mike and Tommy, that we were looking to improve the roster.

by TrueGreen on Jan 15, 2009 10:47 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Likely Moves

1. Powe and BBD are unrestricted free agents in June. One will be resigned, one will be traded, either at the deadline, on draft night, or in a sign and trade over the Summer.

2. Either Walker or Giddens will be traded. Walker obviously has more value. The NBA has known about him since he was 14 years old, and being O.J. Mayo’s high school teammate didn’t hurt. Plus Walker is a very high I.Q. kid.

3, The BIG decision is what to do about Ray Allen in 2009-2010.

by Brickowski on Jan 15, 2009 11:09 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

No Decision

The only critique I see repeatedly about Ray is his age. He is a better player than I ever thought he was and is even better this year than last. Physically his age is probably 5 years below his chronological age. To me there is no decision to be made. Resign him so his contract coincides with KG and PP. I don’t see anyone in the league that we can get, considering all factors, to take his place.

by TrueGreen on Jan 16, 2009 7:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Let’s not get too excited about Bill Walker’s garbage time debut. I seriously doubt that a rookie will be seeing significant minutes off the bench in the playoffs.

by dobbs on Jan 15, 2009 11:54 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

He will not see significant minutes

Dobbs you’re absolutely right, he’s not going to see any time this year. However, that doesn’t mean there’s nothing to be excited about. Did you see that move on the baseline? That was so involved, it was like something out of Pierce’s offensive playbook. For a guy coming up from the D-League, that’s impressive. I think the excitement is mainly about our future. Experts around the country seem to think our future is bleak, but with the emergence of Rondo, Pruitt, Perk, Powe, Davis, Obryant and Walker, I’m starting to feel pretty good about it. Give me a healthy Tony Allen and we’ve got something there. Plus there is no doubt in my mind that barring any serious injury, Paul Pierce will play until at least age 36, and be effective. He just loves basketball way too much.

SCOTT

by Vegas Scott on Jan 15, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought walker’s D was ok and his rebounding was very good. He plays bigger than he is and like Pierce is strong and can get to the hoop. I’d love to see giddens as well so I can get some idea as to his abilities

by Red2 on Jan 15, 2009 1:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Stand pat, Danny. For now

Team still has ability to get better, especially on bench. Do not risk extra strong chemistry for marginal talent improvement. (Tyron Lue will be mentoned by bloggers shortly). Unless the team has obvious hole in Feb. No sooner but then grab the missing piece. By the way, I do think the Marbury idea was bad then maybe

by Wildblu1 on Jan 15, 2009 1:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

perhaps, perhaps

I prefer a large sample size before getting excited about a young, athletic player. Else you just get sucked into the same Kedrick Brown / Gerald Green / Marcus Banks whirlpool of hope. They have to prove to me that they can play basketball, and that takes a while.

by dobbs on Jan 15, 2009 2:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The problem comes in when they seldom, if ever play. The coaches presumably know what they’re doing. But sometimes you wonder.

by no kidding on Jan 15, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think both JR Giddens and Bill Walker have far more value as players and prospects … than they do as trade assets.

by Who on Jan 15, 2009 8:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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