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Bill Walker is now "that guy."  You know, that guy that everyone wants to see play more minutes but isn't quite ready yet (according to the coach).  There's little not to like about Walker from a Celtics perspective.  Lets review some of the reasons:

  • He's fearless - he backs down from nobody and that is already getting on the nerves of opponents.
  • He's intense on the court - which makes him fit in well with guys like KG and Powe.
  • He's very athletic, which makes for some very entertaining dunks.
  • He has overcome setbacks - like tearing is ACL and slipping to the 2nd round of the draft.
  • He's accessible - he does a weekly interview with Celtics Stuff Live. (we now know that he doesn't care if you call him Bill or Billy and his nickname is Sky Walker - not to be confused with Kenny)
  • He seems humble and grounded.  Every quote from him seems like he gets how much work he has to do to become what he can be.  He also just got a tattoo "1023" (his old house number) to remind him of his roots.

Most importantly, the guy can play.  He's not just athletic - Gerald Green was a great dunker.  This guy can create his own shot. Consider this scouting report from Draft Express (covering the D-League Showcase):

His ability to slash to the basket and get in the paint was on full display. He doesn’t have the ball-handling skills to fully utilize his athleticism yet, but he is clever in his approach – using several maneuvers to get his defender off balance and gain a half a step, driving left most of the time. He also uses his strength very well, driving into the paint and then turning the move into a post up to bully his way to the rim. His mentality is to try and dunk the ball every time, which is definitely how you want to see a player with his tools approach the game.

There's a lot for him to keep working on, but it sounds like he's working on it the right way.  Consider this quote (Globe):

"Only the strong survive. This is a man's game. You want something, you have to go out there and take it. That's my mentality. [Defense] is the only way you're going to stay out there on the court. [Rivers] could have easily just let me sit there. That was a way of just saying I'm thankful to be out there. I'm going to keep on working, stay humble, and try to help out. I didn't know all the inbounding plays. But it was still fun.

I'm pumped to see him play and I believe he has a bright future on this team.  JR Giddens might be good someday but I wouldn't mind seeing him used in a trade either.  Bill Walker is another matter.  I'd hate to see him go anywhere else because I think he's got that drive that sets him apart from other players.  Like many fans, I feel like if he's given a shot, he'll make the most of it.

However, don't count on him getting more than garbage time minutes any time soon.

Star-divide

From the Herald:

While he played well - he has played well and sometimes astoundingly so since training camp - it’s unlikely to have any impact on Doc Rivers’ plans and needs.

"You get up and down a bit, and then it starts to work for you," he said of getting back into the NBA flow. "The thing is that I didn’t even know if I was going to play. Afterward (Rivers) just told me good game. You only do what you can do."

And right now it appears that Walker and Giddens - clearly the best players on the Utah roster - have a better chance of playing in the NBDL All-Star Game than of making further contributions here.

Rivers, asked if either player had a chance of helping plug holes in the Celtics’ current manpower shortage - especially where the injured Tony Allen is concerned - impatiently waved off the suggestion.

"We haven’t even had time to practice," he said. "I haven’t had a look at them."

I can understand that to an extent.  They haven't had time to practice and when they do have practice it should be focused on fixing what is broken, not tutoring a young guy that doesn't know all the plays yet. 

Still, the fan in me thinks that Walker could provide the team some much needed athleticism and creativity to the second unit.

Hey, the Free Gabe campagin has worked out well so far.  Maybe we can get Bill Walker some more time too!

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The team should be playing either Bill Walker or JR Giddens while Tony Allen is out. It’s a good opportunity to do so.

by Who on Jan 16, 2009 9:27 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

*Rivers, asked if either player had a chance of helping plug holes in the Celtics’ current manpower shortage – especially where the injured Tony Allen is concerned – impatiently waved off the suggestion.

"We haven’t even had time to practice," he said. "I haven’t had a look at them."*

That’s the most important part of this whole thing… it should tell you something about people that love to assume things instead of dealing with facts.

by BudweiserCeltic on Jan 16, 2009 9:33 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Doc's an idiot

He has been the most stubborn coach in playin young rookies….We as fans are probably just very excited to see BW succeed as we have been dissapointed with Gerald. ( but 95% of us here feel BW is miles better than what Green ever was).

I just hope Rivers just realize that BW right now alone whether he has practiced with the C’s or not is right now better than TA alone….His IQ and demeanor on the court just says it all that this kid is highly likely to succeed and im glad we are the team that drafted him.

by bopna on Jan 16, 2009 9:51 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My comments weren’t directed at that. It was directed at people that assume that pretty much the reason why players don’t get on the floor is because they are no good.

by BudweiserCeltic on Jan 16, 2009 9:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

"Doc's an idiot"

This “idiot” led a team that started last season with about 7 or 8 players after the trades for KG and Ray Allen and took this group who had never played together to an NBA Championship, #17 after 22 years.
Unless you’re an equivalent to Larry Brown, Greg Popovich, Danny Ainge and others I would use other words.
Just because Walker played well in pre-season and one garbage time doesn’t mean he’s ready for the NBA. In addition, we are no longer in development mode. We are playing for another championship.
If it is your opinion that Walker should immediately take TA’s position on the second unit that’s fine. I just disagree. I’d rather see Scals who is an experienced veteran and knows how to play the game, especially at the defensive end.

by TrueGreen on Jan 16, 2009 10:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And Furthermore

Two years ago we had a rookie named Rajon Rondo. Doc played him as a rookie. He actually won the starting job and last year was a major factor in us winning the Championship. I think Doc actually knows when a player can play.

by TrueGreen on Jan 16, 2009 10:23 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I am not really disagreeing with your comments, but I want to add that we all have seen Doc not play Gomes until injuries forced it to happen, not play Al at center until Perks injuries forced it to happen, not play Al and Perk at the same time for 2 years, not play Delonte much until later in his rookie year, and start Telfair over Rajon for quite awhile. He wasn’t very slow to play Baby minutes last year, but was slow to play Powe the previous year. He did play Tony Allen quite a lot in his first year.

I have concluded that Doc has the mindset to play rookies if he thinks they are good defenders. I believe that if we had a rookie center who was just a great defender, he’d be playing him. I don’t think he loves teaching rookies, I think he likes the rapport with veterans. I think he may well be a very good and even great leader of established veterans

Bill could have a ton of potential and make a difference out there as a solid replacement for TA. We won’t know and Doc just is a guy who doesn’t believe in fairy tales, ie, he’d literally have to see them tearing it up in practice for an extended time for him to bite on the idea.

Scal gets minutes over various kids over the years most likely because he isn’t often out of position on defense or offense for that matter. (not to mention his ability to roll on the floor and bang into opponents knees).

Lets not forget Gabe isn’t a rookie.

by wahz on Jan 16, 2009 12:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

?

“We haven’t even had time to practice,” he said. “I haven’t had a look at them.”

Pretty lame quote…

If the above is true, what has the team been doing, going to the movies?

Being from Albuquerque, I know what kind of defense Giddens is capable of. Doc should give both some minutes, and help them develop!

by nba is the worst on Jan 17, 2009 8:40 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

?

Pretty lame comment…

Maybe he hasn’t had time to see Walker really practice since he got called up. Maybe the Celtics have had games and road trips. You don’t practice every day in the NBA, just like in baseball.

And if there’s one thing this team does better and with more intensity than any other team, it’s practice long and

by Greg on Jan 19, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Gerald was purely a jumpshooter in actual games. This guy attacks the rim and dunks while being defended. Thats a huge difference.

by moiso on Jan 16, 2009 9:36 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well, they're practicing today, aren't they?

Teach Bill those plays already. The Celtics need some energy (not to mention another small forward).

by PJ Martinez on Jan 16, 2009 9:44 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Energy

They have energy. They need REST and they are getting it this week. It showed in the last game because they had great energy for 48 minutes.

by TrueGreen on Jan 16, 2009 10:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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I know Scal is playing out of his mind right now but I certainly am more rather see BW than Scally at this point even at the expense of us losing a few more games rather than not finding out what Walker could have given us.

by bopna on Jan 16, 2009 9:56 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Scal needs to play PF and that’s it.

by BudweiserCeltic on Jan 16, 2009 9:58 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Is there any doubt Scal is channeling Posey?

I swear its amazing. If he shoots close to 40% from the 3 line he is a VERY valuable player for us as he knows where to be and is a solid defender. Maybe it was there all along and I couldn’t see it because he wasn’t shooting well. I was embarrased to have him on this team. he is even dunking easily on the break.

I too see no harm in playing Bill. But Doc won’t do it I don’t think.

by wahz on Jan 16, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Scal doesn't rebound.

Which is perhaps the most important thing for a big man to do. Great, he had eleven points the other day. He hurts the team while he’s out there by not collecting any boards. Just because people can’t actually see him failing to collect boards (the way you can see someone missing a short or turning it over) doesn’t mean it doesn’t hurt the team.

by PJ Martinez on Jan 16, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bill walker needs to play, suck it up Doc…This kid reminds me of a younger Pierce but actually more mature….Part of the reason PP developed so quickly was because he actually played when he was a rookie( i know, that team wasnt contending, but still)
The other top teams in the east have worked rookies into the rotation, Cleveland with Hickson, Magic with Courtney Lee, and its helped those teams! …

by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 16, 2009 10:03 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Totally disagree

Walker is no Paul Pierce. Pierce played as a rookie because he was the best option on a team headed nowhere. That was great and luck for PP. This team is competing for a championship, paying about $60 mill to three players to put it in that position. We are not developing players as we were two years ago. Walker was in the Development League to develop as a player. He even says, to his credit, that he needs to work on alot of things. We have better players on our roster now than Bill Walker. Hopefully Walker will develop and become a large part of our team in the future. Maybe he will show Doc something to merit his playing this year. But he hasn’t yet. We are also not “other teams”. We are the Celtics. If those other teams had qualified vets to fill those positions vets would be filling them.

by TrueGreen on Jan 16, 2009 10:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, well the Cavs and Magic are competing for a championship, have injury problems and are getting help from their rooks in meaningful playing time…I see no reason why we cant, especially when TA is the disaster he is…and I may have exxagerated when I compared walker to pierce, but he does actually remind me of him..

by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 16, 2009 10:19 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Also, we were competing for a championship last year and played BBD meaningful minutes, and it helped us in spots..so its a contradiction to say we dont have time to deveolp players or play rookies, especially with a bad and depleted bench

by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 16, 2009 10:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

BBD

Who would you have played in place of BBD?—- And “he helped us in spots”——When it came to the playoffs we saw much more of Posey, PJ Brown and Leon than BBD. If we had no other choice this year than to play Walker I’m sure he would be playing, but there are others who are better and more experienced, including BBD.

by TrueGreen on Jan 16, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thats my whole point, Bill walker could help us in spots, he could help keep minutes down for Pierce especially while TA is out (supposedly our 6th man being out isnt an injury?, yeah ok) Im not saying log him 20 minutes a game once the playoffs start…

by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 16, 2009 10:58 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Probably not as much

But now that they’ve gotten an oppurtunity it looks like they both have earned spots in the rotation, and its not like we dont have injuries of our own, it wouldnt hurt to give bill some more oppurtunities

by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 16, 2009 10:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We Don't Have Injuries

We have players who are hurting with bumps and bruises who are able to play. Even Perk can play and he will soon. We have no players who are injured that are unable to play, with the possible exception of TA. We don’t know about him. I don’t think Walker is ready to beat out any of the guys taking TA’s minutes right now. I’d also prefer Pruitt to get some of those minutes over Walker. He’s more ready and more important. And if you wish you can say Doc is developing Pruitt. So we have a guy who is developing on this team now.

by TrueGreen on Jan 16, 2009 10:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We dont have injuries? um okay

by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 16, 2009 10:59 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Walker, rookies & the bench

First off, Doc played rookies in his first couple of years in Boston. You saw the results. Mental mistakes, lack of focus on D, dumb fouls, etc, etc. For every bit of potential you saw, there were the mistakes that led to lots of losses and few wins.

As for Walker, he seems to have the right attitude. He looked lost on the first few sequences of the Nets game, but then got in the flow. He looks good, but he was playing against the Nets bench at the end of a blowout. I’m a fan, but let’s keep things in perspective. Incidently, my 9 yr old son has fully bought into the hype. “Walker, he’s like… LeBron James!!!”

I do think you’ll see more of Giddens and Walker over the next couple of weeks. Ainge might be showcasing them in blowouts to generate interest around the League.

by LuckyNumber07 on Jan 16, 2009 10:15 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

First off, Doc played rookies in his first couple of years in Boston. You saw the results. Mental mistakes, lack of focus on D, dumb fouls, etc, etc. For every bit of potential you saw, there were the mistakes that led to lots of losses and few wins.

….And lest we forget, some of the most pathetic and inept defensive and game situation “coaching” in NBA history. The lack of a coherent defensive system and some bizarre rotation and game coaching contributed to a good number of those losses. Also, lest we forget tanking.

I liked Walkers demeanor a lot better this go-round. When he created his own shot with a great move, he ran down court instead of pounding his chest and celebrating. I see him maybe helping in random spots or not at all this season. But Jeff’s analysis is dead on. Walker needs to play the game and not act like the messiah every time he makes a solid play.

by Finkelskyhook on Jan 16, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

need a better picture

anyone have any big (wide enough to be cropped to 455 pixels wide) pictures of Walker in a Celtics uniform?

the one of him and the other two rookies holding up their uniforms is the only other decent one I’ve got

"Would I rather be feared or loved? Easy. Both. I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." Michael Scott

by Jeff Clark on Jan 16, 2009 10:18 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

here are a couple more, although they are less than 455 pixels wide.

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0bfL5WT2n28qS/340x.jpg

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07Oj1U6bza05w/340x.jpg

the one looking over Marbury’s shoulder is pretty cool, it even has an extreme close-up of someone’s massive calf muscle (I assume Big Baby’s he he)

by Ruben Wolkowyski on Jan 16, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

thanks!

the one with Marbury is all the more stunning because I didn’t know Starbury played this year – that must have been preseason

"Would I rather be feared or loved? Easy. Both. I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." Michael Scott

by Jeff Clark on Jan 16, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

BIll Walker Hype Club

We are still accepting applications.

Reporter: About a year ago I asked about the Celtics-Lakers thing and you said you'd really only seen it on TV. Now you've been through it, can you talk about playing the Boston Celtics for the NBA championship?
Kobe: It Sucks.

by indeedproceed on Jan 16, 2009 10:31 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

sign me up

I want a laminated card and decoder ring

"Would I rather be feared or loved? Easy. Both. I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." Michael Scott

by Jeff Clark on Jan 16, 2009 10:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

me too

trade the entire bench other than walker and gabe. trade em all for picks in the two thousand teens! a seven man roster kc jones-style, and all seven guys are all-stars. wait, keep baby, i like it when he does his wacky ‘make some noise’ thing on the jumbotron….

by ssspence on Jan 16, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

he has a shot at PT

and that’s all we can ask for right now. As Wyk said the other night, we’re looking for another shooter or another banger— Bill Walker is our other (and bigger) TA.

by datruthyall on Jan 16, 2009 10:38 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

The New Bench

When the rookies and O’Bryant are ready they will play. The other 3 ways they will play are. lop-sided games, foul trouble or too many injuries. Otherwise wait until next year if they do not get traded this year!

by CelticsWin on Jan 16, 2009 10:42 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

BW needs to play period

there is no need to explain this logic…A player develops quicker if he plays on the court and not buried in the bench as what doc does..(Big Al circa 2006)..Id want to see BW play now behind PP rather than see PP spent about 40 min playing time with a banged up knee when we are 32-9 and heading towards the playoffs.

Id like the W’s but a few more losses that increases the confidence of Pruitt/Walker is alright as atleast we would see exactly what player we have….( see Big Al circa 2007…played out of his mind and it resulted in KG to Boston)

by bopna on Jan 16, 2009 10:51 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

the excuse for pob is- he has to show more in practice- the one for walker is we haven’t had a practice. iam not attacking or defending doc but there does seem to be a contradiction. i know this doesn’t belong here but— i saw the bulls cavs game last nite and i was way down seeing delonte fracture his wrist- but then there he pops up on the bench and they’re saying, he’ll be back sooner than later. he gets hurt a lot- but he’s a gamer. so’s lebron, but i am really sick of his hurt and anguished at the calls jobs he does on the refs. stern and the nba are enabling him. and by the way, he was a walking turnover machine last night and they could have called more.

by nazzbo on Jan 16, 2009 11:08 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

We are not a development experiment right now!!

Count me as one who sees a fantastic upside with Bill Walker, it is fun to think about what he may become. But for those who most like watching the growing pains of exciting young players with potential, please follow the Wolves. The C’s are in a different cycle right now, and all of what we see as fans, in terms of ability and potential, does not make the kid ready to be part of the regular rotation of a Championship team. Sadly, many have not made the transition from watching kids develop to cheering on a team whose goal is the Finals.

There is so much more to making a rotation than what we see in the games. Anybody who is suggesting that Walker could/should replace T. Allen right now just doesn’t get it. For all of TA’s shortcomings, he has played in the league, can cover 2’s, and can slash to the basket, all traits Walker just does not have…….yet. Rooks will always be worked in slowly on highly competitive teams, that is just the way it is. That means nothing in terms of the future ability of Walker, it just means he has landed on one of the top 3 teams in the league, this is not Miami or Chicago where some growing pains can be tolerated since there is no hope of winning 60 games.

by KJ33 on Jan 16, 2009 11:29 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Sorry but this is just a contradiction, the celtics won a championship with a 2nd year PG who has never played an entire season starting until that year, and had regular minutes for a rookie in BBD, now all of a sudden we’re too good to give Bill Walker minutes when in actuallity this team isnt as good as last years? I guess we’d rather have PP playing 40+ minutes on a bum knee

by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 16, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hype hype hype

So far we’ve seen 12 worthwhile minutes of Bill Walker in a regular season NBA game and already the hype machine is starting to crank up. I love Celticsblog!

Doc is not the type of player to play rookies or young players just to see what they can give the team in 2-3 minute spurts at the end of quarters. He’d prefer to not play them at all or only in 20+ pt blowouts with 8 minutes or less to go in the game. This is the same guy that plays his starters when we’re up 15 pts with 4 minutes to play. He never feels like a lead is safe and clearly doesn’t trust players that he hasn’t established that trust in. This is why Scalabrine plays. This is why Patrick O’Bryant doesn’t play, even when we’re thin with big men.

How do you earn Doc’s trust? Nobody seems to know. It took him 40 games to figure out Ryan Gomes was worthy of ANY minutes. It took him 2 seasons to understand that Al Jefferson should be playing 40 minutes a night.

All of this said, it should be evident that barring injuries, Bill Walker is NOT due to see any significant minutes this season. We’ll be in a dogfight for home court advantage in the East for the entire season and Doc is just not the type of coach that’s going to sacrifice valuable games in this race just to see what he has in a rookie / placate the fans.

by dobbs on Jan 16, 2009 11:32 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I really hate the whole idea that one can’t develop players while winning, especially for teams with Championship aspirations. It’s the biggest BS going around here. Was Detroit wrong in giving Stuckey some playing time last year? Are the Spurs mistaken in giving George Hill some playing time? Did giving Davis playing time last season prevent us from winning the Championship? Was it a mistake for Houston to give playing time to Carl Landry?

by BudweiserCeltic on Jan 16, 2009 11:46 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

People trying to make that point sound ridicoulous, we actually need to be bringing young players around right now, not ignoring them and acting to good for them…pretty dumb if you ask me

by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 16, 2009 11:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Developing Players On The Celtics That Are Playing

BBD, Leon, Rondo, Pruitt and I would possibly add Perk and TA to this list. These are not rookies, but they have not reached their full potential and are developing so as to reach that point. Despite it’s record the team is not playing well. Just ask the players and coach. To add guys like Walker or whomever to a team that isn’t playing as well is it could gives us no benefit at this time. Let’s solidify what we have and then we can play around for those who want it.

by TrueGreen on Jan 17, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

To Add

Playing Walker will not affect the minutes of KG, PP, and RA. They may play lots of minutes in a single game or two, but their average is below 35.

by TrueGreen on Jan 17, 2009 10:54 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought Walker had a decent jumper in college but I haven’t seen it in the pros. He’s a little undersized to play SF in the NBA so he needs a reliable shot— and three point range.

by Brickowski on Jan 16, 2009 12:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

new poll

added a poll since everyone seems to be debating this today

"Would I rather be feared or loved? Easy. Both. I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." Michael Scott

by Jeff Clark on Jan 16, 2009 12:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

did anybody happen to notice that Delonte broke his wrist?! That shifts the balance of power somewhat – he is (was) a key ingredient to the Cavs’ recent success.

by jurrasicearl on Jan 16, 2009 12:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It was the wrist on his right hand. And Celtic fans know that Delonte’s right hand is like tits on a bull. He’ll be back in no time, surely not long enough to upset the balance of power.

by dobbs on Jan 16, 2009 1:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I thought we already discussed this yesterday lol. or atleast 65 people who posted comments did. Got pretty heated from what I remember…

by Goldstar88 on Jan 16, 2009 2:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Bill Walker is a rookie

Give him some time and he will develop into the player we could use on this team. It might take a couple of seasons to reach his full potential. Right now he can keep working on defense and when Doc can use him he will play.

I’m not gonna go into a big argument about why Doc should or should not play him. He’s the coach of that team and he makes the decisions not us.

by illestmcsgt on Jan 16, 2009 3:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

interesting note in SI.com

Ian Thompson said this:

There was no big man available at that stage of the draft who would have been capable of helping a contender like the Celtics, who need veterans who know how to play in the late rounds of the playoffs. That’s one reason why Boston essentially put its pick up for sale to rival teams on the eve of the draft. But there were no takers.

I have heard this before (that they were shopping the JR Giddens pick on draft night)

I just don’t see that guy in the long term plans of this team

"Would I rather be feared or loved? Easy. Both. I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." Michael Scott

by Jeff Clark on Jan 16, 2009 3:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

W

If you’ve ever heard or seen Bill Walker give an interview, you should know right away that Bill Walker is no Gerald Green. Walker is far more intelligent than Green, and he probably is more talented to boot.

by jurrasicearl on Jan 16, 2009 3:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

by the way, has anybody out there been keeping tabs on how GG has been doing lately with the Mavs? I saw him play in a game a couple of months ago, and in that game Dirk kept yelling at him to get in position. It did not look too auspicious.

by jurrasicearl on Jan 16, 2009 4:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Doc makes mistakes

…like everybody else. He has played BB Davis way too much, when it’s clear that BBD is at his ceiling… his body and talents are genetically limited (i.e., he’s not gonna improve much from here). Doc has also played Tony “The Moron” Allen way, WAY too much… we should get rid of that guy ASAP.

And now, we’ll see about Walker. Sky’s the real deal, with enormous potential… that’s why Danny went out of his way to get him. So they stick him in D League and play TA instead (stupid move). But now we’ll see… the correct thing to do now is give Walker his shot… give him meaningful minutes and let him blossom. This kid could be huge… his potential is enormous… to the point where it’s possible he could make their season. You’ll never know unless you give him his shot.

But Doc makes mistakes, just like the rest of us. What I don’t like is his lack of imagination. It seems that when he chooses a direction, he rarely changes it. And that’s too bad, because the ability to make mid-course corrections is critical to any successful endeavor.

by DRJ1 on Jan 16, 2009 4:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Cavs should go down now

Delonte broke his wrist. Doesn’t matter that it’s not his shooting hand (how could you think it does?)… he’s out for at least a month. When he said he’ll be participating in their upcoming road trip… well, that’s just a silly kid talking. He’s out, period.

Lebron has a cold. Bad one… practiced today in a coat, because he was “shivering”. Jeezuss… go home and sleep it off guy. I’m thinking he might not show up for tonight’s game.

And of course, Wallace and Z are both out too. Looks like the Cavs are gonna come back to earth right now… tonight is the 2nd of a back to back with… the Hornets. Good luck trying to win that game with 3 starters out and Lebron shivering and probably feverish. Look for them to lose 3 or 4 (at least 2) of the next 6 games.

by DRJ1 on Jan 16, 2009 4:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well, you were mistaken on the 1st game, and I'm thinking the Lakers will be too soft too

 The replacements for delonte came through with a flourish, to say the least…

by nba is the worst on Jan 17, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

music to my ears (although I wish them all well….just not until July).

by jurrasicearl on Jan 16, 2009 5:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If you've liked the way Danny's draft picks have performed

then it’s tough to criticize Doc. I know the argument can be made that Doc should be more willing to get his talented youngsters into the game faster, because whenver they do get in the game they exceed expectations. But who’s to say that the the phenomenal play of Danny’s draft picks hasn’t been because Doc gave them minutes at exactly the right times? Think about where Powe, Rondo, Perk, Big Al, D-West, and Gomes (even though the latter 3 are no longer wearing green) are in their careers. Would they have gotten to this point without having played under the tutelage of Doc Rivers? Most people on here would instinctively say yes, but the point I’m trying to make is that there’s no way of really knowing.

by Toine43 on Jan 16, 2009 5:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It's arguable

… that the Cs would have won last year with Mickey Rourke’s pet chihuahua coaching. It’s arguable that Tom Thibodeau had more to do with the Celtics’ latest championship than Doc. I don’t know. I do know that Doc has shown very little imagination lately… he picks a plan and seems to never move from it. A blind man can see that Walker needs real minutes now, that he has enormous potential, a great attitude and high IQ (which Tony Allen will never have). But game after game we see…. scal, big fat baby, tony “the moron” allen… bla bla bla. Hell, Doc has spent the last 2 years trying to teach TA the game of basketball… when it should have been clear from day one that Tony simply doesn’t have the synapses to understand… he’s just too stupid, and that’s no joke.

by DRJ1 on Jan 16, 2009 6:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ancient Rivaly is correct

The rookies can be worked into games, and their energy will help the team! C’mon Doc, loosen up a bit (like Van Gundy in Orlando – LOL!)…

by nba is the worst on Jan 17, 2009 8:46 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

It is a great time . . .

to appreciate what nuggets we have on the bench, and your Billy Walker article was right on Jeff. The more he plays, the more the fans will embrace this guy. He’s going to be a good addition THIS year if he gets lucky and breaks into the rotation. What he proved to me in the D-League is that he has the total package offensive – he can shoot the three well and that seals the deal as far as getting some time at the 3-spot on this Celtics team, at the expense of Tony Allen unfortunately.

by ManchvegasBob on Jan 17, 2009 9:57 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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