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First Half Thoughts:

We're up 30.  I'm sure you can imagine, these are good thoughts.

  • It is amazing how much attention Shaq requires.  Especially when Perk is out of the lineup.  That said, the Celtics successfully defended him more often than not.  Double teams, fronting, and going right at him on offense all help to minimize his impact.
  • What more can you say about Rondo?  He's attacking the rim, putting Nash on his heels, and even hitting that midrange jumper.  Glad to have good-Rondo back.
  • Pierce set the tone early with some hot shooting, but as the announcers said the shots are all in the flow of the offense.
  • Great hustle on several plays.  This is what was missing for much of the slide.
  • Transition buckets off of 15 Suns turnovers.
  • Great start.  Baring an epic collapse, we'll see a lot of the P.O.W. camp (Pruitt, O'Bryant, Walker).

 

Star-divide

Second Half Thoughts:

  • Not much left to talk about here.  The Celtics held the lead in the 3rd and played the subs in the 4th.
  • Actually, Scal was out with the 2nd unit in the 4th despite being a starter.  Would have liked to see Walker sooner.
  • I must say, Walker OWNS garbage time.  More please!
  • Pruitt also missed an alley-oop dunk that would have made the highlights.
  • Nice blowout win.
Boston
 Starters Min FG 3Pt FT +/- Off Reb Ast TO Stl BS BA PF Pts 
  R. Allen G 32:07 8-12 4-5 0-0 +23 0 2 3 1 1 0 0 0 20 
  R. Rondo G 29:41 9-15 1-1 4-7 +22 2 5 7 3 2 0 1 3 23 
  B. Scalabrine C 33:25 2-8 0-3 0-0 +18 0 2 2 0 0 1 1 2
  P. Pierce F 32:34 6-15 0-3 0-0 +26 1 8 8 2 2 0 2 3 12 
  K. Garnett F 25:08 7-10 0-0 2-2 +24 2 8 3 0 3 1 0 3 16 
 Bench Min FG 3Pt FT +/- Off Reb Ast TO Stl BS BA PF Pts 
  G. Davis 22:49 4-10 0-0 1-2 +10 3 9 1 2 1 0 0 3
  L. Powe 22:29 2-7 0-0 1-1 -7 3 5 0 1 0 0 4 3
  E. House 18:41 3-10 0-3 0-0 -5 0 2 2 1 0 0 0 2
  G. Pruitt 12:00 1-4 0-0 0-0 -14 0 1 3 0 2 0 1 1
  B. Walker 5:32 3-3 0-0 1-2 -6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
  P. O'Bryant 5:32 0-0 0-0 0-0 -6 0 0 1 2 1 1 0 1
 Totals 45-94 5-15 9-14 11 42 30 12 12 3 9 22 104 

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Outlet Passes

I’m totally loving that everyone has their heads up and are looking to make the long outlet passes for easy transition buckets off misses and turnovers.

by BleedinGreen417 on Jan 19, 2009 9:57 PM EST reply actions  

Powe and BBD

If they would only slow down and not force the issue so much, they would be much better players. That is why the second unit needs a go-to scorer…Marbury anyone. This would allow both Powe and BBD to play to their strengths and occassionally be more aggressive when their “feeling it”. I really think Pruitt is a keeper, he’s silky smooth. Where’s Bill Walker? I hope he gets in, I haven’t been able to see him play yet this year…

by daveedee36 on Jan 19, 2009 10:08 PM EST reply actions  

What happened to Powe?

I only watched the 2nd half, but Powe did not look so good. Last season and the beginning of this year he was scoring at will from the low block. He had major trouble scoring in garbage time tonight. One night is not worth making a judgement on, but he hasn’t played as much lately, either. Is this just a bad stretch for him? Did he not show up for garbage time minutes? Any other ideas?

by MurphyHOF on Jan 19, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Confidence maybe??

I don’t know either but there does seem to be a significant difference. He seemed to be just lowering his shoulder and bullrushing the basket tonight…might be trying to replicate last year and because of it, he might be forcing the issue.

by daveedee36 on Jan 19, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

What happaned to Powe

is what I’ve been saying happens all too often. Let me take a common phrase I hear from the commentators with respect to Powe: “This is a tough matchup for Powe”

Just one of many reasons we should keep BBD over Powe if a choice needs to be made. BBD just has a more versatile game and can be used in more matchups, especially defensively. I prefer to keep both if possible, though.

by Bankshot on Jan 19, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

BBD is that much better?

Seems to me that those same much ups would pose the same issue to BBD. The difference between the two is that Powe is better on the boards where BBD brings a little more athleticism (especially on defense where he’s more active and switches better). But that hasn’t always translated to production…I don’t see all the games so that’s just my humble opinion based on a small sample.

by daveedee36 on Jan 19, 2009 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

He was a little better in the first half...

…that’s when he got all his rebounds, and he played some good D on Amar’e. He really feeds on ball movement for his offense, and there was precious little ball movement in the 4th quarter. This one-on-one post stuff they’re having him do doesn’t play to his strengths; he just uses the same move and teams are picking up on it That said, I agree, he does seem to be struggling recently even doing basic things like catching passes and finishing strong, which he always seemed above-average at before. Hopefully it’s just a bad stretch that he plays himself out of.

by MattD on Jan 19, 2009 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Game ball goes to Scalabrine for his outstanding defense on Stoudamire. As I said earlier, if you stop Stoudamire, you stop the Suns, and the Cetlics did.

This is probably the best game I’ve seen Scalabrine play as a Celtic.

by Brickowski on Jan 19, 2009 10:28 PM EST reply actions  

agree...

Scals was huge! He might not be the prettiest of players, but he gets the job done. I like when they run the ball through him on offense, he makes good decisions.

by daveedee36 on Jan 19, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Stoudamire's a fraud.

He’s not the engine that makes the Suns go, and never was.

by wondahbap on Jan 20, 2009 1:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Scals's Value

This game demonstrated the value that Scals brings to this team. In a post-game interview with Dickerson Scals explained how he examined the way Stoudemire played against Toronto to see his tendencies. He then watched film of his last 5 games to do the same. If Scal knows in advance who he will be guarding he will examine the tendencies of that player and then execute a game plan to defend him. We keep talking about the need to add to this team, but we shouldn’t forget about Scals. When it comes to the playoffs it’s about defense and that is where Scals excels (in addition to doing the other little unnoticed things).

by TrueGreen on Jan 20, 2009 8:48 AM EST up reply actions  

the most impressive thing tonight was

How the first unit maintained total intensity in the 3rd quarter following a 30 point half time lead. Very impressive, and hard to do.

by footey on Jan 19, 2009 10:32 PM EST reply actions  

minor point on BBD

I’m not a big fan of his jump shot – it doesn’t go in

if I wanted to see someone miss jumpers, I’d ask Rondo to shoot more

"Would I rather be feared or loved? Easy. Both. I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." Michael Scott

by Jeff Clark on Jan 19, 2009 10:49 PM EST reply actions  

he consistently makes those shots before the game working with powe, and clifford ray

no one here talks about it but i mentioned it last year: baby and Cliff Ray work out before every game. Powe is often there too but not always. this is home and away because i am a bit of a stalker. We can assume baby is being tld to keep shooting. As one example, Scal makes a very poor percentage of his jumpers before the game, freakishly bad. baby is making his mid range jumpers probably at a 70% rate. So no point here other than i am guessing he is being told to keep at it and he must lack confidence still

by wahz on Jan 19, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yea, I think Reggie Miller said....

something to the effect that Doc wants him to continue to take those shots.

by daveedee36 on Jan 19, 2009 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

what are you talking about with scal?

he makes almost all of his jumpers before games. its during the games that he struggles at times. he has a very good shot when theres no pressure. But i’ll believe you about baby

by Slick on Jan 20, 2009 1:42 AM EST up reply actions  

They don't all go in, of course

But he certainly does make some. He was 4-10 tonight, one more FG and he is 50% from the field, more than acceptable. It’s all about shot selection. When he is within 18 ft. and the ball is swung to him wide open, his percentage is far greater than anything deeper or off the dribble or on the move.

by KJ33 on Jan 20, 2009 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Doc has been telling BBD to keep shooting them

And his form is not bad at all. The accuracy is improved. I think he’s buying himself some more time.

by cordobes on Jan 20, 2009 2:46 AM EST up reply actions  

First group was outstanding, Rondo and Scal especially. Liked Bill Walker’s aggression a bunch off the bench – but the rest of the bench was garbage, especially O’Blount.

Bring me a 5 and a shooter, and we’re ready to take on Cleveland, Orlando and LA.

by CoachBo on Jan 19, 2009 10:57 PM EST reply actions  

First Half

Did you see the bench play in the first half. They were excellent. I was disappointed with their play in the 4th quarter, but when it counted they played very well.

by TrueGreen on Jan 20, 2009 8:50 AM EST up reply actions  

1st team was dominance tonite. scal = good spacing on o and solid fronting of amare on d. rondo the magnifico. hitting jumpers, setting the pace. bbd good in quarter 2 as was eddie.these type of games are fun to watch because you see team ball, hustle and everyone playing like they mean it. bravo.

by nazzbo on Jan 19, 2009 11:14 PM EST reply actions  

Besides the obvious...

…we saw that quietly, Rajon has developed his jump shot. It was there tonight, and deadly. That is a great step forward… if this continues, woe to any team that lays off daring him to shoot. Walker had an excellent game. Got a feeling we’re gonna need him later on. Scal was great on D, but missed every jumper he took. Ugh. POB is… well… still befuddled out there… good on D, but seems to have a short attention span when it comes to protecting the ball. We might be able to win as we are, but it sure would be great to get a reliable big.

by DRJ1 on Jan 19, 2009 11:33 PM EST reply actions  

Rondo looked great all around tonight,

but I’m not ready to go overboard on the jump shot – he’s still putting up a 27.7 effective field goal percentage on his jumpers this season. More games like tonight’s would certainly help change that, though, and it’s always nice to be encouraged.

-sw

Manuel Aristides Ramirez is the greatest hitter I've ever seen.

by Steve Weinman on Jan 19, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

Well said. A game is a very small sample.

by cordobes on Jan 20, 2009 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow!

One game he hits a few jumpers and he has all of a sudden developed a jump shot?! Did he do that since the last game?! If he can just develop it so easily then why did he wait so long to do it… Yes, he hit a few jumpers tonight. Tonight we saw the Rondo that makes this team tough to beat. I don’t know why the guy can’t mentally turn it on more than once in awhile though. If he plays like that, which he is always capable of, he is truly an all-star caliber player and we are very tough. Why he goes games at a time without being aggressive baffles me… One night does not make a jump shot though, as Steve’s stats below confirm.

by EJPLAYA on Jan 20, 2009 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

well lets show that Rondo is now hitting a slightly better % of both Ft's and three this year now

and its been creeping up so that id think 65% ft and 32% threes is afeasible and a good step up from last year. are these numbers good? no, but i bet he gets to 70 and 35 next year or the year after while being a great defender, distributor, penetrator and rebounder

by wahz on Jan 20, 2009 1:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Rondo's percentages are misleading

He doesn’t take enough shots to make them significant. He only takes a few wide open 3’s here and there.

by cordobes on Jan 20, 2009 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually, this is the second game Rondo has been taking and hitting jumpers

… so a pattern may (MAY) be emerging. Here’s hoping… because that was his one weakest area. I think the coaches told him he needs to do it, so he started to take them, and lo and behold, he’s hitting them… (and at a much higher rate than his season-long stat). Considering that prior to this he was hardly taking ANY jumpers, I think we may be witnessing a turning point for Rondo.

by DRJ1 on Jan 20, 2009 2:06 AM EST up reply actions  

It still is his biggest weakness, you overreact after every single game, he had games where he hit the jumper with even more regularity last year including the playoffs…hes still a terrible jumpshooter regardless

by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 20, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I am a big of a Rondo fan as anyone, but let’s not get carried away with his “developed jumpshot.” This is not Ray Allen, Reggie Miller, Steve Kerr, heck, not even Craig Hodges! He had a GREAT night of attacking the hoop and distributing the ball: THAT is the great thing.
He had a good night of shooting, but we can’t rely on that night in and night out. But last night, he felt it, and he OWNED.

by jontookem on Jan 20, 2009 8:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Perk a trade bait?

Now can we use Perk as a trade bait?

by GreenGrizz on Jan 19, 2009 11:51 PM EST reply actions  

Are you serious?

If not, that’s a good joke.

by cordobes on Jan 20, 2009 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I automatically presumed the latter,

but I guess it’s always worth asking.

-sw

Manuel Aristides Ramirez is the greatest hitter I've ever seen.

by Steve Weinman on Jan 20, 2009 1:37 AM EST up reply actions  

????

I second that, cordobes.

That made no sense.

by wondahbap on Jan 20, 2009 1:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Um no

Who could we possibly get of equal value as Perk for the cheap price?
Answer: Noone

by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 20, 2009 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Great win. The bench was great during the meaningful playing time. Wish they’d have dominated the garbage time. How badly hurt is Tony Allen? He wasn’t there today and I don’t think he was around for the two games last week.

by twinbree on Jan 20, 2009 12:21 AM EST reply actions  

TA

I think TA is more hurt than we’re being told. Several games back the announcers said he was wearing a boot. You don’t wear a boot on a simple ankle sprain.

by TrueGreen on Jan 20, 2009 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Looks like the swagger's coming back.

You guys really put it to the last three teams. Without Perk too. Not bad. I know the teams weren’t that good, but a win is a win, and they’ve handled business.

Tough road back to back coming up. Not so much Miami (although they are capable of some trouble), but Orlando in the 2nd will be tough. They are playing well. A win there would be big, because the Celtics need to finish out this month strong. February is brutal.

by wondahbap on Jan 20, 2009 1:33 AM EST reply actions  

back?

You’re dead on. I am waiting for the Orlando game before I really exhale. I really hope we have a Perk sighting for that outing, someone needs to wear Howard down.

by Thruthelookingglass on Jan 20, 2009 7:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Perk is untradable

I realize you probably mentioned trading Perk as a joke, but in truth, I doubt any team would take Perk in a trade given that his shoulder is so delicate it can go out and ruin his career at any moment. For example, if Perk were to take a hit like Elton Brand took to his shoulder, you’d have to say goodbye to Perk FOREVER. Cs seriously need to get a reliable backup big, because Perk is not likely to make it through this season. And it would be hard for them to get through the playoffs with Scal starting against the really big guys, like Z, Bynum, etc…. too much to lay on KG.

by DRJ1 on Jan 20, 2009 2:12 AM EST reply actions  

Honestly

Have some faith in Perk’s resilience. I think he’ll be fine.

Also, I would hate to see trades. I can imagine it being possible to trade Perk, BBD, POB or whoever for any big, but honestly, I think this team can get somewhere. Develop what we have, and try to keep it. It looks like there’s potential here. Future in mind, I’d like to see BBD, Walker and Perk/Rondo to stick with the C’s after the big three throw in the towel. That’s where our future lies imo.

- Dirk

by Kiorrik on Jan 20, 2009 3:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually...

I was just making a theoretical point. There’s no way the Cs are going to try to trade Perk, fuggetaboutit.

by DRJ1 on Jan 20, 2009 3:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually...

you’re right :)

- Dirk

by Kiorrik on Jan 20, 2009 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Huh?

Every NBA team would love to get Perkins and his extremely cap-friendly contract, with or without the injury.

by cordobes on Jan 20, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Turning points

Turning points don’t come with big neon signs declaring themselves. You get a game, one game, in which a player suddenly starts doing something he hasn’t done in a long time (or ever). Like when Pierce played those 48 minutes and said he felt great and could have played another 12 (after his hyperbaric chamber, remember?). That was Paul’s turning point, because until that game, he had been pretty lethargic in every game. Or last year, when Ray had his major slump and then all of a sudden, in one game, started hitting again. Turning point. I believe Rondo has been working on his jumper – with lots of help and encouragement from the coaches – and beginning with the 2nd Nets game, he may have taken a leap forward, created a turning point. He has never taken this many jumpers with such confidence. And hit them. All of which is great news for the Cs. Now if we could just get another PJ, we’ll be ready for #18. (Even if we don’t, I think the Cs can win it all. But you can bet that D. Howard will be a lot harder to handle than fat, old, slow Shaq.)

by DRJ1 on Jan 20, 2009 3:27 AM EST reply actions  

Why?

Howard and Shaq are both bulls near the basket and we defend that type of player well. If we keep a body on Howard on the weak side we can limit his rebounds. If we pressure him on offense we can make him take shots he doesn’t want to take. We can also run him to wear him down and we have the people to do that. It’s a question of focus with both players, but we have the people to do the job.

by TrueGreen on Jan 20, 2009 8:58 AM EST up reply actions  

You're confusing things

For example, Ray was on a shooting slump. He didn’t learn to shoot in that game. Rondo is a different case, he was never a good shooter.

I also remember very good shooting games from Rondo in the past. Games like this happen all the time.

by cordobes on Jan 20, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Not really

There has not been a single game this season in which Rondo has shot as well as he has in the past two. Can’t recall one from last year either, though I wouldn’t swear to that. His shooting performance in the last two games seems different… time will tell of course, but this smells strongly like his turning point on the jump shot. Coaches have been working on it with him, and at some point the turnaround had to come.

The fact that a good shooting game is new to Rondo is irrelevant. Players develop, and Rondo has done so at a much higher rate of change than most, obviously. Why should it be surprising that at some point he develops his jumper? I think he may have reached that point. We will soon see.

by DRJ1 on Jan 20, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

KG's Postgame Comments on Thibs

Did anyone hear these comments well? It was something like Thibs was telling KG something about playing Shaq and KG saying something like—-here’s a guy who’s never played in the NBA telling me how to guard this wall. It wasn’t detrimental, just really funny.

by TrueGreen on Jan 20, 2009 9:00 AM EST reply actions  

Can someone tell me

sorry if it makes me sound stupid but what does BA mean on the stat sheet?

by hiro on Jan 20, 2009 9:03 AM EST reply actions  

How many shot attempts the player had blocked (blocks against).

by Bankshot on Jan 20, 2009 9:05 AM EST up reply actions  

O'Bryant

Not to put a dampener on a fantastic win, but how bad is O’Bryant?

It looks like he is years away from contributing, if ever. Robin Lopez pushed him around and Dragic stole the ball from him for an easy layup, one of 2 turnovers in only 5 minutes and 32 seconds of playing time.

If someone is to be cut, it should be O’Bryant.

by Ruben Wolkowyski on Jan 20, 2009 9:10 AM EST reply actions  

baby is playing better than leon right now which is why he’s the first big off the bench but these guys seem to go back and forth in terms of who has the better game. I think defenses are keyed more to leon and he sees a lot of double teams whereas baby is never double teamed. I also think that leon still isn’t getting the respect he deserves from the refs. He gets hacked a lot with no calls. He had the one nice 3 pt play in the first half but in garbage time he became a black hole. He needs to pass out of the DT more often and then repost or he needs to get into his move quicker. the one pass by POB to leon was a beauty and it shows that with a high post center leon has more space to operate so perhaps doc ought to play leon and pob together more. I think leon will get his groove back. he was 2-7 tonight but missed a bunch of in close shots. those will fall for him next time. Meanwhile scal is ripping it up as a starter so why should doc mess with that? How about bringin Perk off the bench to anchor the second unit’s defense? it would also give perk more scoring opps.

by Red2 on Jan 20, 2009 9:27 AM EST reply actions  

Powe really wasn't

being double teamed last night. He just has problems with getting his shot off against bigger players sometimes. Which is why I started a thread last week about him need a little 3 foot jump shot. He will try to get a shot up over bigger players whether he has a shot or not, because for some reason he doesn’t pass it back out. He got his shot stuffed 4 times last night, twice because he didn’t pass when he didn’t have a shot.

by Bankshot on Jan 20, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

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