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Schedule:

I woke up this morning convinced that there would be a game on tonight.  I guess I'm just used to games being every other day or back-to-back.  It seems like the schedule should lighten up for the Celtics in the 2nd half of the season (look out world).

Captain Paul Pierce said the team is recovering from a difficult front-loaded schedule. The Celtics (37-9) have matched their record of last season, but did not play their 46th game until Feb. 6, 2008.

"The schedule is catching up with us," Pierce said. "The second half of the year when we're not playing as many games as we did in the first half, we have more time to come out here and practice."

Bring 'em All Back

We won't mention you-know-who, but I can't not quote Doc speaking about yesterday's rumors:

"We love it all," said Doc Rivers after yesterday’s brief practice. "I mean, we’re going to call Magic (Johnson), Larry (Bird) and Michael (Jordan) next - Cooz (Bobby Cousy), (Bill) Russell."

Addressing the willingness of others to think Green, Rivers said, "I think that’s the most flattering part about it. We’ve gotten our team to a point where they do like us and they are considering coming. That’s flattering for a franchise. Two years ago they didn’t even return our call."

Ainge got in on the fun too.

"Reggie thought I was talking to him when I was really talking about Cheryl [Miller's sister]," Ainge joked.

Tony Allen Ankle Watch

Doc is treating Tony Allen like Mike Shanahan used to treat his running backs, so if you have him on your fantasy team, just keep him on the shelf.

"He practiced, but we didn’t do anything enough that he could really test it," Rivers said. "We’re going to go hard (today), so if he can make it through (today) he may be ready for the game on Wednesday. That doesn’t mean he’s going to play, but he’ll be ready."

Big Bench Men

The CSL blog has two long articles on Big Baby Davis and Patrick O'Bryant that are both worth the read. But I'm wondering what happened to Leon Powe?  What is behind his recent slump and what does he need to do to get back into the regular rotation?

Something to Talk About

If you are the sort that likes to take John Hollinger's columns and rip him apart, this might be your lucky day.   Hollinger makes the case that Vince Carter should be an All Star ahead of Paul Pierce or Ray Allen.  But before you start your rant, consider that he puts Rondo on the team too.  Now you feel conflicted don't you?

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Hollinger is an idiot.

Not sure what’s up with Tony Allen.

And Powe. I started a thread over a week ago that he needs a jump shot. I think he has only one move and teams have figured out his only move and just waits for him to move towards the hoop and blocks his shot almost every time. He also needs to improve his defense and passing. Do they still do passing drills in practice? I think passing drills could help Powe a lot (unless they’ve tried already). And lastly, I’m not trying to be funny, but could Powe’s big feet have anything to do with him moving his feet to slow on defense? His feet look way too big for his body and looks like he could trip over them at any time. Again, not trying to be funny, but wondering if this is possible.

by Bankshot on Jan 27, 2009 8:26 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hollinger is an idiot?

That’s absurd. You may disagree with his writing or analysis, but his body of work is obvious proof of his intelligence.

by Brendan on Jan 27, 2009 9:36 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Heaven forbid anyone disagree with a so-called ‘expert’ I guess. LOL

by NoraG1 on Jan 27, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

"Pierce hasn't played nearly well enough to merit inclusion."

Sounds pretty idiotic to me.

God bless and good night!

by BrickJames on Jan 27, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh

and I forgot to say that if we don’t get another big, we need Powe to improve and get back into the rotation.

by Bankshot on Jan 27, 2009 8:28 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Retired guys who I think could help us, seriously:

Jordan, Malone, PJ Brown (obviously), Reggie.. among others

The first two would never in a million years consider it – all I’m saying is that I bet they could still play.

by bostonfan23 on Jan 27, 2009 8:50 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

MJ – NO, sorry but he’s got a gut now, tottally out-of-shape and a chain smoking drinker

by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 27, 2009 9:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Give MJ some time to get into shape, and he got absolutely play again.

Granted this is against teens at a camp this past summer, but he looked pretty decent: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqlBUj9bFC4

by bostonfan23 on Jan 27, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was at the game

when he scored 40 points as an over-40 player for the Wiz

I will believe MJ can’t do something when he shows he can’t, not before ;)

"Would I rather be feared or loved? Easy. Both. I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." Michael Scott

by Jeff Clark on Jan 27, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

exactly. I remember too he torched the Celts his last game in Boston and the Knicks his last game in New York. too bad he didn’t have anyone around him.

LOVE the Michael Scott quote, by the way.

by bostonfan23 on Jan 27, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I suppose you’re right
I should know better than to doubt MJ, but honestly he’s obviously never coming back, and it would never be for the celtics…but how great would that be? haha

by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 27, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I really like the things Powe brings that he is good at- such as offensive rebounding, catching and finishing at the rim. But as the season has progressed he has looked more and more lost when he catches the ball near the foul line. He just holds the ball and the offense stagnates. It hasn’t been pretty.

by moiso on Jan 27, 2009 9:09 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Liked the article on POB. Seems like he is trying his best. He seems like a bright kid. Hope we hang onto him and give him a chance to develop. Could really pay off for us in a couple of years.

by footey on Jan 27, 2009 10:32 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

I like what I see on the offensive end from him. He needs to get tougher on defense.

by Bankshot on Jan 27, 2009 10:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Powe Isn't Playing Any Differently

He’s just getting fewer minutes because Scalabrine and BBD are playing better and getting more minutes.

by Brickowski on Jan 27, 2009 11:37 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

He isnt playing differently? dude, his hands have been like bricks and he cant finish around the basket…thats different

by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 27, 2009 11:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

More or less agree with Brick

But based on PER he’s less effective in those minutes over the course of the year, than he was before. So I do think opponents are on to him somewhat. Given minutes I think he’d break out of that.

by Brendan on Jan 27, 2009 11:39 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

PER is Deceptive

Powe’s PER may be down because he’s playing less time with the starters and more with the second unit. I believe my eyes, not PER.

by Brickowski on Jan 27, 2009 11:42 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Powe vs. Baby

I have to assume that Powe is being sat because he’s not being showcased – as discussed on the podcast here a few days ago. I just can’t see that he fell that far down to deserve only garbage time with POB. That being said, Baby has played better and has actually hit some of those jumpers of late, giving himself more value on the market, and on the second unit.

by chunnamark on Jan 27, 2009 11:42 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Powe is being sat because he’s not playing well. How hard is that to see when watching the games?

by Bankshot on Jan 27, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, but agree with Chunna

Yeah, maybe he’s not playing as well as he usually does, but Doc would never just put him in garbage time AFTER POB enters the game, like he did in Dallas. Powe is a valuable asset who hit a slump but there’s gotta be something else going on here. His rebounding efforts are still much better than any other bench guy – which is always necessary for a second unit, and I’m sure Doc understands that without playing time Powe can’t really get out of his slump – and he needs that spark from Powe that he had last year. So, either BBD is being showcased for a deal, OR, Powe is working with Clifford Ray a bit and Doc is giving him some time off to recollect his game. He’s not simply benching him. IMHO.

by Slick on Jan 27, 2009 11:58 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

PER is meaningless. It's a gimmick designed to give him a niche.

I give Hollinger credit for 1) thinking it up and 2) convincing a large portion of basketball fans that it has some relevance to the game. But that doesn’t change the fact that it’s bogus.

Hollinger watches stat sheets, not games.

by Cousin It on Jan 27, 2009 12:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I agree, for the most part

the problem is that he uses PER as a crutch and never admits if it doesn’t reflect reality. It does a good job at reflecting some “intangibles”, at least more than just your ordinary states, but more often than not I’ve found that it actually does players an injustice relative to others when measured by PER (Allen and Pierce vs Vince, for example, is simply laughable).

If Hollinger could man up and admit his model is just that, and is not perfect, that would be nice. I was going to say it would “make him more viable”, but he gets automatic rep by virtue of BSPN whoring him out.

God bless and good night!

by BrickJames on Jan 27, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting about the C's front loaded schedule

No one in the media pointed out the Celtics heavy schedule in the first half, but all were happy to jump on them during their skid.

As far as TA goes, he can’t dominate the ball in the 2nd unit. If he get’s the ball of a pass and has a clear path to the basket, go for it. But his days of dribbling on the perimeter, driving in to miss the bunny or get called for an offensive foul should be over. Like Doc said, the role players have to stick to their roles in order for the bench to be successful.

by LuckyNumber07 on Jan 27, 2009 12:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I could not believe the excuses alot of the media was making about Orlando being ‘rusty’ because they had so many days off and yet didn’t even bother to mention the Celtics were on a back to back.

by NoraG1 on Jan 27, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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