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Scal Has Concussion - Out For "Quite Some Time"

Bad news for a guy who was really starting to find his role on this team.  Via the Globe:

WALTHAM -- Celtics forward Brian Scalabrine was taken to New England Baptist Hospital after suffering a concussion at practice today, and coach Doc Rivers said he expects the forward to be out for an extended period of time.

Scalabrine originally suffered a concussion against Dallas last Sunday and received another when he bumped into teammate Patrick O'Bryant while trying to get a rebound at practice today.

Scalabrine is averaging 3.1 points and 1.3 rebounds this season.

"He got hit in the head and just had a mild concussion," Rivers said. "I don't know if he is out, but it's close. He'll be out probably for quite some time."

Rivers said he could activate guard Tony Allen tomorrow night against Sacramento after he missed the past 11 games with a sprained right ankle. Allen practiced today. Rivers said he has been cautious with Allen’s return to ensure he is completely healed.

“Tony looked good actually,” Rivers said. “He ran well, moved well. You could tell he was in terrible shape and that was what he was concerned by. He said, ‘My, after three minutes I was dying.’ We said, ‘We’ll play you three minutes.’ With Scal out, Tony may have to play [more] tomorrow.”

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nooo! i hope he recovers well

by drod400 on Jan 27, 2009 2:04 PM EST reply actions  

Scal will be missed...

The team has been playing a lot better lately, and Scal’s influence has been a big part of that.

On another note, Scal has earned a reputation over his years here of injuring our players (Pierce, Perk, etc.) How ironic, then, that he gets injured in practice by the current biggest scrub on the team? I hate POB more and more every day.

All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino

by Roy_Hobbs on Jan 27, 2009 2:07 PM EST reply actions  

Scal made real progress

this year he was injuring OTHER people’s players

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=NBA&id=531&line=108475&spln=1

"Would I rather be feared or loved? Easy. Both. I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." Michael Scott

by Jeff Clark on Jan 27, 2009 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

bad luck for scal. be careful with tony. give some time to walker.

by nazzbo on Jan 27, 2009 2:08 PM EST reply actions  

I dont see this hurting the celtics at all…and If we lose a game and I hear someone bring up scal, I might just die of laughter

by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 27, 2009 2:46 PM EST reply actions  

Judge Scal on his current play, not his past...

Are you implying that Scal hasn’t helped the team win games recently? The Celts are 8-0 since the Perk injury (and Scal’s insertion in the lineup) and the ball movement has been noticeably better. He’s made a difference out there.

All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino

by Roy_Hobbs on Jan 27, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

No, dont get me wrong, I think scals been phenomanal lately, at least compared to his past…but I dont think the celtics are going to be any worse if he misses some time.. I think it’s more coincendence that we turned it around when scal was in as opposed to scal being the reason…

by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 27, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Coincidence? I think not.

I have to agree with you in that the Celts will continue to do well without Scal. However, I disagree that their current winning streak has not been at all influenced by Scalabrine. While he may not be knocking down the points, his assertiveness under the basket has accounted for a lot of C’s rebounds, which we all know are potential baskets. Scal definitely isn’t a great enough player to be glorified as the reason the team turned around their losing streak, but he definitely contributed.

by Celtics Chick on Jan 28, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

did the first concussion happen when Dirk nailed him in the chin with his elbow and Scal was called for the foul? NBA refs are truly comical.

by jurrasicearl on Jan 27, 2009 2:51 PM EST reply actions  

POB

I hate POB so much, he doesn’t play and he injures teammates.

by Champzilla on Jan 27, 2009 3:05 PM EST reply actions  

I knew I could count on you Champy for that post.

When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"

by Green17 on Jan 27, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

which means

he’s filling in for scal in years passed

by Brendan on Jan 27, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s a bummer. I like Scal. I think he sets a “do anything the team asks of me” tone for the rest of the bench. He’s a good guy to have on your bench.

by liamail on Jan 27, 2009 3:06 PM EST reply actions  

I agree

Count me in on wishing Scal a speedy recovery. He’s done nothing to hurt the team when he’s been on the floor this year. He’s played well and is ready to go when his number is called. You can’t ask for anything more.

by GroverTheClover on Jan 27, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

can we not hate on POB? unless we find out he meant to do it, than all this shows is him playing hard in practice, no? i mean its probably pretty hard to give a guy a concussion if you arent trying…besides scal is the king at injuring his own teammates, and more valuable ones then himself

by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 27, 2009 3:12 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

POB not playing is thru no fault of his own

He looks pretty good when he’s in. Doc doesn’t see him fitting into the rotation right now, and I won’t question that decision … but you cannot say POB has played poorly when given the chance, or that he has hurt the team.

Name 1 game situation in which POB contributed to the Celtics losing.

As far as him “injuring teammates” … it happens. Remember when Scal landed on PP’s knee? It happens.

Re: Scal, here’s to a full recovery. Concussions suck. Once you get one, it’s easier to get them again.

by Cousin It on Jan 27, 2009 3:38 PM EST reply actions  

Wasn't it Perkins

that landed on Pierce’s knee?

God bless and good night!

by BrickJames on Jan 27, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

According to Doc...

POB isn’t playing because he’s not playing at “Celtics speed”, i.e., his work ethic isn’t there yet. That’s the same rap POB’s had his entire career.

As for POB’s play in garbage time, check out his turnover and personal foul numbers, or look at his defense. There’s more to basketball than points and blocked shots.

All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino

by Roy_Hobbs on Jan 27, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I can't even make out where some of you coming from with regard to POB but

He is 22, he is 7 feet tall, all reports suggest he is a project, all reports suggest he is working hard , staying out of trouble and is enthusiastic enough and respectful to the team members. If we want to conclude he will never make it, ok, but its early and he is trying and i think there is some evidence of improvement. he is very awkward. i just hate the hate for a very young man who is trying

by wahz on Jan 27, 2009 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

There are no reports suggesting he’s working hard. On the contrary, there are all sorts of reports and indications that he cannot put enough the same amount of effort in as other Celtics players.

by kozlodoev on Jan 28, 2009 6:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Losing Scali is going to hurt.

They still haven’t lost a game where he has played 15 or more minutes.

That means more Powe/Davis front court, which just isn’t good for the both of them.

by Wide Load on Jan 27, 2009 6:04 PM EST reply actions  

That hurts as he’s played well. Would have liked to have him for Detroit and the Lakers.

by RebusRankin on Jan 27, 2009 6:09 PM EST reply actions  

Extended perior of time?

How serious is this? I’ve never heard of a mild concussion taking someone out for more than a couple of weeks.

Our backcourt is getting really small.

by cordobes on Jan 27, 2009 6:16 PM EST reply actions  

Even if it not very serious, 2 consecutive concussions in such short a time are a concern, because the condition can become recurring. This type of injury is (and should) always be treated with utmost care.

by kozlodoev on Jan 28, 2009 6:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

I didn’t remember it was the 2nd concussion in a short period of time. Thanks for the heads up, Anyway, I still don’t expect him to be out for anything close to “an extended period”.

by cordobes on Jan 28, 2009 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Matter of days

A mild concussion does NOT require weeks off. Usually, you can go back to your normal activities within 1-2 days or so. I believe “Doc” was either misquoted or not well informed.

by DRJ1 on Jan 27, 2009 6:23 PM EST reply actions  

Yeps

In my previous post I meant to write “a couple of days”. Either this is more serious than a mild concussion or he won’t be out for as long as Doc allegedly suggested.

by cordobes on Jan 27, 2009 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

It's a second concussion.

I think that’s more serious. Especially so soon after the first.

by PJ Martinez on Jan 28, 2009 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

POB

Maybe POB did this to get more playing time, watch out Powe and BBD.

by Champzilla on Jan 27, 2009 6:28 PM EST reply actions  

Scal

I do have to give Scal a ton of credit. When I saw him play during the preseason I thought he was worse than ever, he had thousands of turnovers and couldn’t buy a basket. However, this past month with KREP out he has really stepped up big time. He was starting to become a big key player to this teams success. I can’t believe I’m saying this but I hope Scal comes back soon.

by Champzilla on Jan 27, 2009 6:38 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed

Scal was playing like the guy that Danny sold to us when the Celts signed him.

by BleedinGreen417 on Jan 27, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Hopefully he won't be out long

He has instinctively filled the posey role, recently and done it well, if not very well. i never thought i would think or write that we’d miss him but we are going to miss him. Hopefully he misses one game since i wouldn’t think i would be long. he probably has headaches and dizziness and one of the docs there should be able to handle it

by wahz on Jan 27, 2009 6:42 PM EST reply actions  

and if your read Docs quote you see he was misquoted in one way or the other

scal being out can’t be both a close call and also for quite some time

by wahz on Jan 27, 2009 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

As for the time out

It’s a concussion. They are tricky. Maybe he will be back soon. Maybe it will be closer to a month. They probably don’t know and are planning as if he will be out a while.

by Wide Load on Jan 27, 2009 8:10 PM EST reply actions  

This Could Hurt

Funny we are talking about Scal’s being out as a possible problem for the team. Say what you want, but he’s a big part of the turnaround. There is no one to replace the things that Scals does on the court other than KG and we don’t want him doing double duty. Just points out the need to get a big, preferably someone that can play the 4 as well.

by TrueGreen on Jan 27, 2009 9:02 PM EST reply actions  

Scal

The won > 15 minutes, is a hilarious biased stat, given he’s gotten so many minutes at the end of blow outs.

Anyways I don’t see his absence as long as Doc keeps the rotation the same. We haven’t seen much BBD/Scal front courts, so hopefully we won’t see BBD/Powe front courts.

by Brendan on Jan 27, 2009 9:11 PM EST reply actions  

Can't Keep Rotation The Same

Scal has become a big part of the rotation. It can’t be kept the same without him. Scal does things that aren’t noticed. On Sunday Ray hit a 3 from the corner. One reason is that Scal set a pick on that side that made Ray’s defender take a longer route to get to Ray. It was noticed by Hubie Brown (I think) and shown on a replay to emphasize the point. There wasn’t even contact, but the fact that Scal put himself in perfect position made the shot easier for Ray. Multiply this one example by many (that aren’t noticed).

by TrueGreen on Jan 27, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok besides from that pick

Why can’t Doc play KG/Powe, KG/Perk, BBD/Perk, and BBD/KG as the pairings? Why would he all the sudden have to play BBD/Powe?

by Brendan on Jan 27, 2009 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

What I Meant

I meant Scals had become part of the regular rotation and thus the rotation can’t be kept the same. All of your combos may be tried until we hit one that works the best.

by TrueGreen on Jan 28, 2009 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

"GOING FOR A REBOUND"?????

No wonder he got hurt – he is not supposed to be in unfamiliar territory …..the Paint.

hahahahaha – speedy recovery Scal.

Is it Soup Yet?

by Master Po on Jan 27, 2009 9:33 PM EST reply actions  

A Related Article Just Today In The NY Times...

…on how they are discovering serious lifelong damage to football players from those hits to the head:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/28/sports/football/28brain.html?_r=1&ref=health

by clover on Jan 27, 2009 11:42 PM EST reply actions  

sorry but i can't help myself...

i am concerned for your health scal. please be careful and take your time, plenty of time… we don’t want you to be seriously injured in the long term. in fact, please take the rest of the season off. keep on adding great value to the team with your winning, positive attitude while sitting on the bench. i know that’s what’s best for you and especially the celtics. good luck and godspeed my friend.
now, seriously, for those of you who are saying that scal has been a big part of the turnaround…. please…. i now he does the little things that don’t show up in the box score, like he’s good at setting picks… but at some point he has to do some of the things that DO show on the box score, that’s why they are in the box score in the first place. he is not a poor rebounder but a pathetic rebounder, he is a poor passer, poor shooter especially considering he is usually wide open because opponents don’t need to defend him. and no, he’s not a good defender, mediocre at best: he can’t block shots, gets no steals and is foul prone because of poor speed.
maybe a bigger part of the turnaround has to do with rajon rondo et al? seriously, enough with the scal stuff. what started out as a joke is kind of becoming reality and we’re starting to believe that he can actually play. we are winning in spite of him, not because of him.

by carlherrera on Jan 28, 2009 1:41 AM EST reply actions  

Sorry, don't agree

I was calling Doc to work Scal into the rotation before the fact happened. The boxscore can be very misleading. He’s a solid defender with the right matchups; he’s a good, but conservative passer; he’s a decent outside shotoer; he takes good care of the ball; he understands the game and where to be; he doesn’t hurt the team when he’s on the floor.

I agree he shouldn’t be part of the regular rotation, but he was needed at that time and a reason why things got more stable. If now we can work him out of the rotation (which I doubt), fine.

by cordobes on Jan 28, 2009 1:49 AM EST up reply actions  

This Point Of View

I agree more with cordobes. I would also mention that the more he plays in a regular rotation the more comfortable he becomes in hitting the 3. This spreads the floor and opens the paint for others. And as to rebounding, Perk is often blocking out a rebounder so another Celtic can get it. Perk doesn’t get the stat in the boxscore, but he is just as responsible for us getting the rebound as the player that did get the stat number. I haven’t payed much attention to Scals during rebounds so I can’t say if he’s helpful or not.

by TrueGreen on Jan 28, 2009 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Dead wrong

Many times what Scal does shows up in the other TEAMS boxscore vs our own. Like shutting down Stoudemire the other night… You couldn’t be farther from the truth with this guy. The majority on here obviously know the truth whether your dislike of the guy allows you to admit it or not.

by EJPLAYA on Jan 28, 2009 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow

Sorry but I agree, Scal is not the reason for the turnaround, thats ridicoulous, he just happened to play decent when we turned it around, this is similar to saying Luke walton or Josh Powell has been the key to the lakers success…give me a freakin break…unbelieveable! and he shut down stoudemire? haha, its called team defense…and lets see him “shut down stoudemire” again, please, stoudemire shut down himself

by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 28, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

No one said that.

I never said Scal was THE REASON for the turnaround, however him playing and TA sitting has to have had some effect on things. Dismissing his solid play out there with the starters and second unit doesn’t make you believable. The guy is a “glue” type player that makes guys around him better. And YES he shut down Stoudemire. There were multiple times that even the announcers were raving about the defense he was playing against him. He has a track record of being a very smart defender who doesn’t go for a lot of ball fakes and is always in good position.

With your definition of team defense, then KG is just an okay defender because it really is the team guarding his guy, not KG… Please…

by EJPLAYA on Jan 28, 2009 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually, yeah KG is a better team defender than 1-on-1 defender…and PLEASE, if scal cant play solid basketball with 3 future hall of famers and a great point guard like rondo, he shouldnt be in the NBA, nevermind with that contract…sheesh talk about overreacting to some decent play from a guy whos played like garbage and has contributed nothing for over 2 years, enough already

by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 28, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmmm...

I think that I will decide when I’m done praising Scal, not you. If you’re done talking about him then stop posting about it. You obviously harbor feelings of resentment for the guy for some reason, so you aren’t realistically going to change your mind, but don’t tell me what I am allowed to post and for how long. If I choose to go on for pages and pages about him then I will.

You are the only one over-reacting about Scal. I said he has played very solid of late and does a very nice job playing solid defense against some guys that are pretty good players. Amare, Dirk, etc. If you match most slow footed guys who can’t jump against these All-Stars the result would be them going off for huge points. Instead, he held them in check with good defense. He is shooting a very respectable percentage from three this year. He is a solid 9-10th man. No one is making him out to be more than he is. How about Enough already from the peanut gallery full of Scal detractors…

by EJPLAYA on Jan 28, 2009 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I can’t believe that carlherrera is pleased with this development, Amare would’ve been glad not to have Scals in his face…., Dirk too.

So he can only get hustle points by running the floor on TO’s and 3’s on the kickout…he’s played some great D lately, swings the ball, makes no TO’s.

We’ll miss him, I think he’s been a big part of our turnaround.

I don't miss any of the kids (except Big Al), I chose this cause I wanted more Perk and Al when they were still kids.

by kids are ok on Jan 28, 2009 6:46 AM EST reply actions  

2 concussions in 3 days is not good. He probably should not have been at pratice at all so I lay this one on the celtics as opposed to POB .concussions are serious business once you’ve had a few. there are tons of guys in sports whose careers have been shortened because they suffered multiple concussions. Eric Lindross comes to mind. Granted basketball is not hockey but on the other hand those guys wear helmets and pads. How does Derk not get called for a foul there?

by Red2 on Jan 28, 2009 9:12 AM EST reply actions  

get well SCAL

hey he is due for some rest time. Rest up we may need you again.

by tommyfan on Jan 28, 2009 1:53 PM EST reply actions  

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