Surprised By Maggette Rumors
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There is no doubt that Corey Maggette's tenure in Golden State is off to an inauspicious start.
After signing a five year, $50 million deal this summer, Maggette has played in just 16 of the Warriors' first 34 games. He has battled hamstring problems throughout the season, and the team is off to a miserable 10-25 start. When Maggette has been on the court, he hasn't been at his best. His scoring is down three points per game from last year (and his per-minute scoring is at its lowest mark in six seasons), and he is having the most inefficient shooting campaign of his ten-year career. The team has actually been more successful without Mags in the lineup, going just 3-13 with him on the floor.
Despite all that, rumors of the Warriors making aggressive efforts to move their newly acquired forward still come as a bit of a surprise.
The Warriors sunk a lot of money into Maggette last summer, but for the most part, it was with good reason. The guy is a scorer, no ifs and or buts. He attacks the rim as hard as any swingman in the league. Though he is guilty of putting his head down and committing to getting his shot off at all costs with stunning regularity, Maggette has remained efficient in doing so throughout his career. Only Dwight Howard and LeBron James averaged more than Maggette's 9.7 trips to the foul line per game a season ago. He ranked 10th in that department in 2006-07 and sits at sixth this year, averaging 8.4 free throw attempts per game.
Maggette makes those attempts count as an 82 percent shooter. Despite his less-than-impressive skills distributing the basketball, his ability to score in volume and be efficient often seems to offset worries about his selfishness. Maggette posts a career true shooting mark of 57.6 percent, and he checked in at 58.3, 58.4 and 59.5 over the three seasons prior to this one. In addition to the fact that Maggette has used that slashing ability to average 20 points per game three times in his career, he is also a decent enough rebounder for a 6-6 small forward. Maggette averages 5.1 boards per game for his career and has grabbed more than 5.5 per game in five of the last six seasons. He isn't a good defender, and that's long been attributed to a lack of focus at that end of the floor (an area in which he is far from alone in this league), but it's been hard to argue with his scoring production and ability to grab the ball off the glass.
Even in what has decidedly been a down year for Maggette thus far, the individual numbers aren't exactly making him the basketball equivalent of my beloved Dodgers' Andruw Jones signing from a year ago. Maggette is shooting the ball miserably from deep (18 percent), and his true shooting is the worst of his career. But that's still 55 percent, a respectable mark for a guy scoring 19 points per game. He's been battling injuries and getting acclimated to a new system, one which should go well with his always-in-attack-mode style. Given Maggette's track record, the current hamstring problems and the fact that he is only 29 years old, it seems reasonable to expect his productivity in Golden State to only rise from here, presuming he returns to full health.
All of this leads me to wonder about the thought process in Golden State right now. There's always the chance that the team knows more about the extent of his injury than it lets on and is trying to deal what the front office sees as damaged goods. Maggette hasn't been the world's most durable player, but his career hasn't been crippled by injuries either. He missed 50 games in 2005-06, but that's the only year in his first nine seasons that he didn't play at least 63 games.
Aside from the possible damaged goods issue, I don't get it. The team had to know what it was getting when it brought in Maggette: foul-shooting machine who scores in bunches, anything else a bonus. It doesn't take any sort of super-sleuth scouting to get that far. If bringing in that type of player was a smart idea in July, I'd have a hard time understanding how it could have been deemed a mistake already (though Maggette has spent his whole career around losing teams - chicken or egg with the Clippers? - and seems to have garnered a reputation for being primarily concerned with "getting his" statistically).
If the Warriors signed Maggette simply as a knee-jerk reaction to losing Baron Davis to the division rival Clippers, that's a bit silly. But even so, moving forward with a core based around Maggette and Monta Ellis (as well as center Andris Biedrins) hardly seems terrible. Both are efficient, high-volume scorers who like to run and could fit together well playing Don Nelson's style. Not the groundwork for the best defensive crew of all time, but that hasn't exactly been the Warriors' MO under Nellie in the first place.
There is still something missing here. A healthy Corey Maggette is perhaps selfish, but he is also definitively a better basketball player than the Mags we have seen so far this season. He was the Warriors' big free agent catch this off-season, and while he has his flaws, he is a productive player who can help this team. What is going on behind closed doors in Golden State that we don't know about?
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The Warriors signed him for bad reasons, and signed him into a squad where he did not fit. Then they compounded their mistake with Jamal Crawford.
They need to blow up their team and rebuild properly. They’re done for the next four seasons if they fail to do so.
The Warriors over the past few months are a case study in terrible salary cap management.
by Who on Jan 3, 2009 1:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Warriors don’t seem to know what they’re doing. Even at the time, the contract they offered Maggette seemed… well, if not horrible, at least generous. They essentially defined themselves as the team that was willing to pay the most for his services, and now after he’s had a disappointing start they think someone else is going to want to take on that contract? Outside of absorbing contracts that are even worse, I don’t see how they get a deal done.
As mentioned, all of this becomes magnified by the “What do the Warriors know that the rest of us do not?” element.
Sign a guy and immediately regret doing so… they’re just a team with no clue what they’re doing.
by theBird on Jan 3, 2009 1:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No proposal of a trade for Maggette including Scal yet?
Must be a slow blog day..
The only theory I can come up, Professor, with is that Maggette may not get along with Nellie. Webber, the team’s best player at the time, didn’t get along with Nellie and they made a lopsided trade to get rid of Webber.
by Finkelskyhook on Jan 3, 2009 1:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think the Nellie issue is dead on; who’s in charge there, Nellie or Mullin? I mean, Mullin’s basically gone, isn’t he? Was Maggette someone that Chris wanted that Don didn’t? Kinda like when O’bie didn’t like Ainge bringing in Ricky Davis… when the coach and the GM aren’t on the same page about what players to sign and what players to play, something’s got to give (and I’m pretty sure that Nellie got an extension and Mullin did not).
by theBird on Jan 3, 2009 2:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You're right,
Many of us feel that Mully is just existing while Cohan and Nellie make all the personnel decisions.
Monta! Montaye! Montae!
by Baked Biedrins on Jan 3, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hamstring problems really suck. You’re there, but you’re not. Nearly everything, but flat out. And you’re always thinking/hoping you’ll be fine in a week or so – while others grow to doubt you.
by no kidding on Jan 3, 2009 2:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Just don't come here
I’ve made a lasting committment to myself that I would never care about Corey Maggette. As long as he’s not a Celtic, I’m happy. If he’s on your team, you know two things: he will kill your chances of cap flexibility and your chances of winning a title. There is a reason guys like Maggette don’t win, it’s because they are overpaid. Those stats you just rattled off Steve are the reason why he is so overrated. Bottom line is he is selfish, lacks a legitimate basketball iq and does not committ to defense. Now, Maggette as a 4th or 5th option? Now thats a dangerous team. Unfortunately it won’t happen until he’s washed up and old.
SCOTT
by Vegas Scott on Jan 3, 2009 3:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
In the bay, they call him Bad Porn
Sure, there’s penetration and scoring, but are you really happy with what you’re seeing? I agree with Scott, stats make Maggette look better than he is. He’s too much of a motion killer. Terrible fit for Nellieball, he’s not dynamic enough. And not nearly smart or active enough to play Nelson’s defense.
I also believe, like thbird, that this situation has a lot to do with the power fights among the Warriors’ FO. With Mullin apparently gone, Nelson is cleaning the house. Or making it an even bigger mess, I don’t know. I also agree with who, they need to rebuild properly. They should have starterd it as soon as they lost Davis and didn’t get Arenas or Brand. Signing Maggette, getting Crawford and extending Jackson were three bad moves (the last one is arguable though).
by cordobes on Jan 3, 2009 5:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Maggette is just another Jason Richardson. Me me me.
by Brickowski on Jan 3, 2009 6:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You know you’re talking about the guy who personally took out a full page newspaper ad to apologize to the fans when the Warriors missed the playoffs in 05-06?
http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/story/2006/4/19/164039/466
Richardson may not be the best basketball player in the world, but he’s far from selfish or “me, me, me”.
"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0
by Dubs fan in Boston on Jan 6, 2009 10:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Me me me is right. But to a different level than JRich. I’m glad we didn’t sign this guy and I don’t want MeMeMarbury either.
by moiso on Jan 3, 2009 8:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
6th Man
The best fit for Maggette would be a SG coming off the bench for a playoff team. He doesn’t defend so he shouldn’t be a starter and he lacks passing skills. He can score and get to the line, so he’s a good crunch time shooter. Just don’t expect him to stop anyone on D.
Of course this is the NBA so Owners/GM’s will always overpay for scoring. As a result, Maggette is overpaid in a role he can’t handle.
by LuckyNumber07 on Jan 4, 2009 6:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yup, it’s like having Flip Murray for 10 million a year. These things only happen in Clipperland.
by Brickowski on Jan 4, 2009 9:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that's a bit unfair
flip uses about 10 times as manyshots as maggette to score the same amount of points
Once upon a time the Suns got out on the break... and along came Steve sucKerr
by Murcy on Jan 4, 2009 10:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's quite fair
This year Flip Murray is shooting 42% from the field, and 36% from beyond the arc.
Maggette is shooting 41% from the field and 18% from 3 point range.
Maggette has better career stats, but that’s ancient history.
by Brickowski on Jan 4, 2009 11:47 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
No, I don't think it is fair
What you’re omitting is their respective abilities to get to the line. Murray gets to the foul line less than twice per game and shoots 76 percent from there. Maggette is up over 80 and averages 8.4 trips per game to the line, thus the much higher true shooting (55 to 51.6). He’s more efficient than Murray.
-sw
Manuel Aristides Ramirez is the greatest hitter I've ever seen.
by Steve Weinman on Jan 4, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, Maggette gets to the line twice as often and shoots a better percentage (85% to 76%). Even so, Murray does many of the things that Maggette does for less than one fifth of the cost.
by Brickowski on Jan 4, 2009 1:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Its not Magette, its the stupid Warrior fans who are clueless to talented players.
After years of losing they have no idea what to do when they get a talented player. Its been that way for years. Webber….gone, Sprewell, gone….Jason Richardson,,,gone,,,
Gilbert Arenas,,,gone,,,, Al harrington,…. gone…..Baron Davis gone…. soon Magette gone,, Anthony Randolph gone……..Then the idiot fans at GSoM do nothing but complain and complain. No wonder why talented free agents wont sign with the Warriors!
by sigmund floyd on Jan 5, 2009 4:58 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Pardon me, but the fans are at fault here?
What is it that they are supposed to “do” when they get a talented player? Cheer? No matter the Warriors’ record, ORACLE always seems like one of the coolest arenas in the Association to attend whenever I’m watching a game on television. What’s the problem?
-sw
Manuel Aristides Ramirez is the greatest hitter I've ever seen.
by Steve Weinman on Jan 5, 2009 6:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you.
Nelly has wet dreams about starting Monta at center.
by StSaints408 on Jan 6, 2009 1:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, we work in the front office and make the dumb moves.
I’m a Warriors fan, and I have nothing but respect for the Celtics, I was mad when they lost to the Lakers. But you, my friend, are a flat out douche. We have the loudest arena in the NBA, we sold out during the drought. The Celtics have a terrible year, and they’re struggling to get seats filled. No disrespect to Celtic fans, but about half are bandwagon hoppers.
Nelly has wet dreams about starting Monta at center.
by StSaints408 on Jan 6, 2009 1:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If the GSoM posters had anything to do with it
Our starting line up would look like:
DeMarcus Nelson
Anthony Morrow
Anthony Randolph
Brandan Wright
Richard Hendrix
Who are these guys? Beats me. All I know is that they don’t get PT, so when the stupider fans see the team suck, they clamor for whatever they don’t get to see, assuming they’ll be better… plus, he’s young and he’s got upsidelengthpotential… all the draft gurus loved him last year!
The real problem with the Warriors is that they’re not really that good in the first place (fighting for a playoff spot would be a best case scenario) and they’ve had loads of injuries (Stephen Jackson just went down with a non-contact hamstring injury and had to be carried off the court). On the bright side, we shouldn’t have to worry about being accused of phantom injuries when we start tanking in a month or two :-).
"No no Nene!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5DxNl4EB0
by Dubs fan in Boston on Jan 6, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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