Free Gabe Coming Soon?
And before the Celtics even get to think heavily about Marbury, you may be seeing more of Gabe Pruitt. In brief meaningful opportunities (read: not garbage time), Pruitt has shown he can score. And his defense has caught the eye of those who took his shooting for granted.
If the Celts want to expect anything from the second-year guy later on this season, then they’ll have to start working him in soon. Even though Marbury is ahead of Pruitt on the food chain - Celtic types were impressed with what they saw of him in the preseason - how well Pruitt does if given a chance soon could have an impact on how much they’re willing to promise a newcomer.
Couldn't have said it any better.
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Rivers had the perfect opportunity to bring in Pruitt instead of House in the second quarter of last night’s game, but he didn’t do it.
Let me repeat my prediction: if the Celtics sign Marbury, they won’t make it past the EC finals. Players like Mo Williams, Delonte West and Daniel Gibson will score at will against that matador, and Cleveland shoots too well to hide Marbury in a zone.
by Brickowski on Jan 3, 2009 9:56 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm, if they dont make it past the ECF with Marbury, are you saying they would with Pruitt? and your comment is so out of line its not even funny… Pierce, and Ray allen were known for their defense,? how about sam cassell who will get minutes if we dont sign marbury? sounds to me like you’re just scared of cleveland
by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 3, 2009 10:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I’m saing they would with Pruitt.
by Brickowski on Jan 3, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well, thats homerism at it’s finest…this team would be lucky to make the ecf with gabe as its backup
by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 3, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, it’s not homerism, it’s respect for defense, which Pruitt plays very well and Marbury plays not at all.
Who cares if Marbury comes in and scores 15 points if he lets in 20? I had the same problem last year with Cassell, but at least Cassell isn’t a jerk.
Then too, whatever they pay Marbury costs double because of the luxury tax, which could restrict their ability to resign players like Powe.
by Brickowski on Jan 3, 2009 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Defense is alot to do with effort, I pretty much guarantee Marbury could be a better defender than Pruitt….and people really need to stop acting like pruitt is linday hunter on defense…I havent seen enough of him and havent seen him defend a relevant player
by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 3, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Marbury has never played defense. He isn’t suddenly going to see the light in Boston.
by Brickowski on Jan 3, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like what people said about ray allen…
by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 3, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ray Allen’s a smart, heady professional. Ever hear anyone describe Marbury in those terms? Allen’s also a guy, like Pierce and KG, who was willing to do whatever it took to win a title. Has Starbury ever stuck you as a player for whom winning a title was their be-all, end-all goal? I’ve never seen that same fire in Marbury; if he had it, he might have actually played on a winning team once in a while.
by theBird on Jan 3, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
I also think Pruitt can help this team and would be better for this team than Marbury. It’s also been mentioned above and many times elsewhere that Doc should play Pruitt for short meaningful spurts. Well that’s what he’s been doing. I would have loved to have seen him play Blake in the Portland game, even over Rondo. Gabe has shown that he can defend bigger pg’s better than Rondo. His team defense and energy level doesn’t match Rondo’s, but there are situations where he has been and can be better. His height lets him play off faster players and he seems to do a better job of staying in front of his man, even when he’s trying to go the the basket, than Rondo.
by TrueGreen on Jan 3, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In the fourth quarter of last night’s blow out game, Pruitt was playing point, and the second unit was flowing pretty well. Eddie House still took his shots, but Powe and O’Bryant were getting fed down low, and Tony Allen was given opportunities to slash to the basket. Pruitt may be the key to the bench.
by no kidding on Jan 3, 2009 10:13 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Pruitt is playing well when he plays. Marbury can also back up Ray. Marbury would be needed for his scoring mostly. Say what you want but Marbury can score. He can play the two with House or Pruitt at the one. Marbury could also play some spot 3 in a small line up. He’s always been more of a combo guard. Scorer off the bench is the best place for Marbury and that’s a role TA was suppose to fill. I’d rather have the ball in Marbury’s hands any day than Tony’s.
by liamail on Jan 3, 2009 10:24 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Okay, but would you rather have Marbury guarding the guy with the ball, or Tony Allen?
by no kidding on Jan 3, 2009 10:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, but would you rather have Marbury guarding the guy with the ball, or Tony Allen?
You mean Tony “Ball fake” Allen? Tony " Dribble foot" Allen? Tony " Uhn?" Allen?
by liamail on Jan 3, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You're, of course, right. Tony Allen is far, far from perfect as a defender.
But again, would you rather have Marbury guarding that guy with the ball?
by no kidding on Jan 3, 2009 11:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather have any one but Tony Allen. He's a mistake waiting to happen on and off the court.
by liamail on Jan 3, 2009 11:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Alright. So this isn’t about Marbury, or Pruitt. It’s about your dissatisfaction with Tony Allen. So I’ll let it go.
by no kidding on Jan 3, 2009 11:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I think that’s the role they are trying to fill with Marbury and thought Tony Allen would fill. Scorer off the bench/ballhandler.
by liamail on Jan 3, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
What a novel thought.
Let’s actually see what we have on the team now before investing time, money, and energy in another player with a checkered past.
Still, I see the bottom line as this:
Doc and Danny will be thinking end of games. They’ll be thinking playoffs. They’ll be thinking experience.
This is why unless Gabe plays off the charts, Starbury is probably coming.
by Page_and_Plant on Jan 3, 2009 10:48 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Brickowski makes sense TAR
Marbury is subtraction by addition the celtics will be worse with him than without . He is a proven loser.
There has to be another way.
by Tommy Truth on Jan 3, 2009 10:49 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
yes hes got a point
But the same thing was said about each one of our big 3… proven losers who cant defend a rock(pierce and allen )
We arent going to be able to add anyone else with the talent of marbury, and we have no trade pieces that anyone wants, sorry….and marbury is a better back up point than eddie, sam, or the unknown pruitt
by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 3, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gabe should have been playing a little more all along—and then it would be clear that he fills a backup slot and Danny wouldn’t even be tempted by Marbury. Also, they’d be comfortable with retiring Sam from the roster for that veteran backup center that they clearly do need.
by clover on Jan 3, 2009 11:04 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
why should pruitt be playing?
i know theres alot of homers around here…but its clear the coaches know more than us, and the fact that they show interest in a guy like marbury is a clear indicator they dont have much confidence in him
by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 3, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's pretty obvious, isn't it?
From closely watching Pruitt, I think the team plays better when he’s in there. He has decent offense, and will probably get better as he grows more confidant. And as opposed to House, he handles the ball better and plays better defense. Isn’t that enough?
Yeah, the coaches have the opportunity to know more than us. But as a fan, I’d like to see everyone long enough so I can form my own opinions. (Otherwise, why be a fan?) And trust me, I’ve seen enough of some players that I’m ready to limit some of their minutes.
by no kidding on Jan 3, 2009 11:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pruitt cant even win backup PG minutes over Eddie House, it really doesnt matte what us fans want or think, the bottom line is Pruitt hasnt shown me anymore than POB has…what has he shown? that he can play in grabage minutes, in the preseason and in the D league? Big deal
by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 3, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Be reasonable. How do you show in games that you can play well in more than garbage minutes, if all you get is garbage minutes?
by no kidding on Jan 3, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone who thinks this team would be better off with Pruitt than Marbury is just kidding themselves…if the big 3 and the rest of the team agree to brining in Steph and he gets bought out, bring him in, period.. POB has shown me more than pruitt and i dont see anyone calling for him to get meaningful minutes
by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 3, 2009 11:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It would be nice to think that the selection process of who and who cannot play, or should play on the court is objective. Playing in garbage time and the preseason is about all that is available. Once the season starts it’s difficult to make that much of a difference in the few practices that happen every month. When injuries happen or whatever, players should be able to or allowed to show they can play. When House was out of town, Doc showed a reluctance to play Gabe House’s minutes. He did the same thing when Perk was out. Instead of allowing POB to take up some of the slack, he shortened the bench.
Maybe he knows more than everyone else, but the negatives of Doc that have followed him over the years just didn’t go away because of winning the championship. He still hasn’t learned how to work a rotation. I don’t think anyone is saying Gabe is the second coming of MJ, but simply that Doc could get more from his bench than he’s getting.
by amenhotep04 on Jan 3, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They could be holding Pruitt back so he's not in a trade.
They did the same thing with Powe and Rondo…
by liamail on Jan 3, 2009 11:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Due Diligence
Danny MAY be showing interest in Marbury. It’s called due diligence or doing his job. No one has heard one comment from Danny about Marbury. We fans have no idea of what Danny is thinking and we definitely have no idea of what the coaches are thinking. Doc can’t and won’t comment and the other coaches don’t do interviews. Pierce has refused to comment. Let’s not make this between Pruitt and Marbury. For the record I’ll go with Pruitt. And I am a homer.
by TrueGreen on Jan 3, 2009 8:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I Don't Believe it
Gabe played well in the preseason; they’ve been happy with his defense; yet, in a blowout game last night he didn’t see the light of day until the fourth quarter.
Frankly I see this press report as nothing more than a reaction to the talks of Marbury coming here.
by amenhotep04 on Jan 3, 2009 11:13 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
As everyone’s observed by now, when it comes to handing out playing time to new guys, Doc is slow on the trigger. For fans, it’s frustrating.
by no kidding on Jan 3, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Was watching the team coached by Doc win the Championship frustrating?
Did you ever think that the players fans want to see may not be ready in the judgment of the coach? Do you honestly believe you are better equipped to determine who should play and how much than the guy who coached the team to the Championship? Fans always want to see more of the players who aren’t playing, that has been going on as long as sports, the backup quarterback syndrome. Would you rather see more of Pruitt and not win as much or are deluded enough to think that winning it all and 29-5 could be improved upon? It is one thing when the team is losing 18 in a row to want to see some new blood to mix it up a bit, but when the decisions made are working, that is another thing. Clearly Doc can’t win, if he played Pruitt more, meaning 10 guys would play, or someone else would not, we would hear about how he doesn’t know how to form a rotation. But if he forms a rotation, meaning by definition 2-3 players will rarely if ever play, then people will complain about those 2-3 guys not getting time.
by KJ33 on Jan 3, 2009 8:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ease up, pal.
I simply pointed out a common frustration. I didn’t say Doc’s a bad coach, or his coaches don’t have their reasons for what they do. But surely, you’re not saying fans haven’t any business being frustrated, or haven’t the right to want what they want. I could sort through the rest of your complaints, but I’ll spare you it. (And watch the run on sentences.)
by no kidding on Jan 3, 2009 10:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I want a big
Pruitt or Marbury, honestly our front like in the second unit is 6’6" ok we need a bloody big. This Pruitt Marbury conversation won’t make a dam bit of difference unless we get some length in there and that is why we will not beat Cleveland in the ECFs!
by richardlight on Jan 3, 2009 11:37 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not that the big man issue isn't important...
… but when and if the Celts play Cleveland in the playoffs, you may wind up caring a great deal about the defensive differences between Pruitt and Marbury.
by no kidding on Jan 3, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How exactly is Pruitt such a good defender? please… he looks really skinny and weak, i dont care hoe he defends d leaguers or players more irrelevant than him…Marbury could be a better defender with the right effort…I mean hes gotta be better than Cassell
by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 3, 2009 12:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Watch Pruitt’s footwork in cutting off the other guy’s penetration. If you don’t look for it, you probably won’t see it – because nothing happens (which is what you want). That kind of skill tends to be associated with a certain temperment. One that Marbury hasn’t displayed.
by no kidding on Jan 3, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Haven't You Been Watching
I don’t have a life so I’ve seen all the games this season, including pre-season. Pruitt has shown he can play defense. He has shown he can shoot from outside. He has shown he sees the floor. He has shown he can pass, including upcourt on a breakaway. He has shown that, regardless of the play, if he sees a clear path to the basket he can stuff it. He may look skinny and “weak”, but do you want to try him out?
And if he is weak that will change because our strength and conditioning coach will see to it. Specifically on defense he has shown he can defend bigger and faster players. His height allows him to play a bit off faster guys. He’s shown he can stay in front of his man, even on a drive to the basket. On one such play he took the ball right out of the hands of the guy who was driving on him. I’ve seen him crossover dribble and drive between two guys trying to defend him.
by TrueGreen on Jan 3, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've only a bit of a life, but keep avoiding it.
Yeah, I’ve seen the same things with Pruitt, and am impressed with him.
But I’m constantly amazed how others on this blog are aware of all sorts of things that I’m clueless on. So if we’re all not watching the same thing, that can work out just fine.
by no kidding on Jan 3, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Patrick O’ Bryant? I mean, people are calling for pruitt to significant minutes, so maybe Ill start calling for POB to get some considering hes shown just as much as pruitt and is a legitimate 7 footer, shot blocker and scorer
by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 3, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Get in line.
I’ve been pulling for more minutes for O’Bryant for some time. (And he looked good last night, too.)
by no kidding on Jan 3, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
POB And Pruitt
Both seem to have the same quiet type of personality. Both have skills. But even though it might be hard to see, Pruitt seems to have the “fire” in the belly that will allow him to succeed. POB hasn’t shown that to me and I think that is what KG is trying to bring out of him. Compare POB to Perk. I really think POB has more skills, but Perk is a much better player. POB does have skills, but he needs to somehow show the intensity and fire. Ray Allen is quiet and may seem not to have that “fire” and intensity, but it surely is there. I see it in his facial expressions sometimes.
by TrueGreen on Jan 3, 2009 9:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who knows? POB may not have as much fire in his belly, but may have a higher basketball I.Q.
O’Bryant certainly has the physique to fill the role. And though he appears too passive, maybe he has the mental capacity to develop where others can’t. Success can come in lots of different packages.
by no kidding on Jan 3, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i like gabe and don’t like marbury, but gabe was no great shakes last night. too much side to side, not enough penetration and dish. but he is good and can shoot from the outside and he’s big for a point.
by nazzbo on Jan 3, 2009 11:39 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
It shouldnt be about who we like or dont like
And I dont know where this Pruitt lovefest manifested, but its awkward considering how irrelevant he is
by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 3, 2009 11:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Because...
Every time Pruitt has played he’s looked fairly good. His defense has been solid, and he’s been hitting the open looks. He’s pretty tall for his size atheletic, and a solid ball handler. He’s done very well with the limited minutes he’s had.
Rondo doesn't believe in easy buckets...
by ManUp on Jan 3, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to see more of Pruitt to find out what he’s actually capable of. He hasn’t played enough yet to know.
by Who on Jan 3, 2009 12:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Exactly. All of this talk is just talk unless they give him some burn. Now’s the time to start giving the kid a few minutes; if he doesn’t play well, his leash isn’t going to be too long, but let’s see if he can help. Frankly, it’s more than just whether they should bring in Starbury or not; how many times has Rondo gone crashing to the floor this year? What’s the over/under on how many more hard hits he takes before he breaks something? I’d like the kid who might have to step in at some point down the line to have a little bit more real-game experience should that happen.
by theBird on Jan 3, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with Brickowski
Marbury is poison.
I have watched Pruitt closely and I am surprised at how well he has defended. He tries hard, and he is fairly savvy — which surprised me.
My problem with Pruitt is that he is timid running the offence. He telegraphs that he won’t drive the ball. Instead, he looks immediately for the next perimeter pass as soon as the ball is passed to him.
To me, he looks afraid to make a mistake.
In my view, Pruitt needs to drive the lane and break down the defense. If he cannot, or will not, he cannot handle the point.
Not sure what the coaches are telling him.
by Frank Malzone on Jan 3, 2009 2:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He is definitely a good enough ball handler to make those drives and finishes or drives and dishes. It would be interesting to know what the coaches are telling him to focus on though when he is out there.
The only guy on the team who looks like he can handle the ball better than Pruitt in terms of dribbling skill and dribbling hard and fast while being completely under control — is Rondo.
by rrc589 on Jan 3, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you talking about what he did in college or high school…do you go to celtics practices? noone knows what we really got with Pruitt, and even when he gets into the game in garbage time with the other team ready to load there plane he doesnt do anything spectacular, half the time he does nothing…I certainly havent seen him enough to compare his ballhandling with rondos, please…and this myth that hes some kind of great defender, pfft…if he was good any better than an average defender, he’d be playing
by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 3, 2009 6:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Be More Vocal
Doc has said Pruitt needs confidence and has to show that he can run the offense. He needs to get the same respect from the “big 3” as Rondo. He needs to be more vocal. I think this is the only thing holding him back now.
by TrueGreen on Jan 3, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did Pruitt play the point in college? He’s not really a natural point guard, he does OK and seems to have pretty decent vision, but I haven’t seen anything in the limited amount of time he’s played to indicate that he’s going to be able to consistently break down the defense and finish at the rim. But, he looks a lot better than he did at this time last year.
by theBird on Jan 3, 2009 2:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
My God the same stuff over and over
I agree with nazzbo. Pruitt’s skills are there especially ball handling and defensive.
Hey Ancient…. maybe you should tune in to watching some of the NBDL games and watch players develop. This is what happened to Gabe last year.
Starbury is “IA” except he’s not a punk but he sure is an ego cententric.
by BigT1942 on Jan 3, 2009 2:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i agree with richard, the issue is about length, adding a legit big or turning PO into one, that said, pruitt adds a good deal of length and athleticism at the one over house, house can shoot, but he is really, really small
by chicagogreen on Jan 3, 2009 5:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ancient, the love fest came about because eddie house is pretty useless, just too slow and small to anything but shoot
by chicagogreen on Jan 3, 2009 6:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why Did You Have To Say This
I want to get off this thread and you have to post this. I would just point to the finals last year, especially game 4 after he had seemingly been replaced by Cassell, and please tell me again how useless Eddie House is. Now I can take leave
by TrueGreen on Jan 3, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone Notice That Gabe Pruitt Looks Like Dave Chappell?
I have enjoyed what I have seen of Pruitt’s game. I have also smiled a little to myself when I noticed he looked a little like the comedian. Has anyone else noticed it?
by VtCeltics on Jan 3, 2009 11:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I have seen nothing
in Pruitt that makes me think we don’t need a veteran point guard. He’s knocked down some shots and played some decent defense in stretches, but the team is not run well when he’s on the floor from what I’ve seen so far.
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