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Mike Fine's cutting analysis of the bench:

The bench needs some direction. Tony Allen is a disaster with the ball. He ranks 39th in the NBA in turnovers per 48 minutes (4.1) and 300th in assists/turnovers ratio (.73). Leon Powe isn't nearly as effective scoring the ball as last season and Doc Rivers is so desperate for scoring off the bench that he's given Glen Davis a full go-ahead to shoot the elbow jumper. A brute who scored 16 points in the paint in the final quarter of a win at Detroit last season is now shooting at a .373 clip. Eddie House has done a nice job as a shooting guard, but he's not a quarterback, and Gabe Pruitt is, at the moment, strictly a garbage time performer.

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For a small ball approach, you could play Gabe, Eddie, Ray, Leon and Baby. You give up size, but at least you have some D and more than one shooter.

Tony Allen can’t be the primary scorer or ball handler on the 2nd unit. It just doesn’t work. He’s better off spelling Ray or Paul with the 1st unit.

by LuckyNumber07 on Jan 6, 2009 12:40 PM EST reply actions  

You want to make that squad taller? Put in O’Bryant for Baby, and Scalabrine for either Eddie or Ray. And play them now, they can develop as a unit.

by no kidding on Jan 6, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

A quarterback

yes, the second unit needs a quarterback.

As you’ve mentioned, you could give gabe more minutes. Problem is neither Doc nor Danny will head into the playoffs with a youngster as the #2.

So your choices are cassell or marbury or a creative third option.

Related, the second unit has no captain. Last year Posey relieved some of he quarterback issues by being the leader of the second unit.

Rudderless ship is the best way to describe the second unit!

by Page_and_Plant on Jan 6, 2009 12:47 PM EST reply actions  

Gabe

I just looked at his fg. He’s shooting 32. Funny. The Globe and the Herald begin every article about him by saying—everyone knows he can shoot!

by Page_and_Plant on Jan 6, 2009 12:49 PM EST reply actions  

limited minutes

hey, Bill Walker shoots 50%, lets get him in the lineup!

http://www.celticsblog.com/nba/teams/BOS/stats

"Would I rather be feared or loved? Easy. Both. I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." Michael Scott

by Jeff Clark on Jan 6, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Well

 Pruitt has seen 112 minutes , and shot 10-31 from the field and 5-18 from 3, and wasnt much better last year in the limited minutes either…so it poses a fair question, why is everyone contiually saying we know he can shoot?

by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 6, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Because the players and coaching staff have said several times that he’s been an impressive shooter in practices.

by Who on Jan 6, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Gabe

Yeah, you wouldn’t think that additional minutes would increase his accuracy.

Ironically, Rondo, who can’t shoot, is shooting 52%, which I believe is fourth best among all guards in the NBA…

by Page_and_Plant on Jan 6, 2009 1:19 PM EST reply actions  

I have two words for you:

Gabe Pruitt

He can shoot, pass and defend. He’s raw, but what do you expect for the NBA minimum?

Tony Allen isn’t the problem. He handles the ball because otherwise House overdribbles looking for his own shot.

by Brickowski on Jan 6, 2009 1:32 PM EST reply actions  

Yes, Give Bill a Chance

It wouldn’t solve the QB problem, but the two kids need their turn too.

Everyone belittles Michael Smith. But he was given a chance on a West Coast Trip during his rookie year, and the Cs won 3/4.

Why?

He was the only one on the floor who cared about a game in the middle of winter.

You’d get more mileage out of the kids if you brought them up sometime soon…

by Page_and_Plant on Jan 6, 2009 1:32 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

What about our 70 Million Dollar First Unit?

It has become fashionable to bash the bench, but it was our 70 million dollar first unit that lost the Knicks game. The second unit extended the lead in the second quarter; the first unit collapsed in the fourth quarter.

The first unit also lost the Laker game, blowing a lead in the 4th quarter.

by Brickowski on Jan 6, 2009 2:00 PM EST reply actions  

Rondo and Perk didn’t really play a lot in that Knicks game 4th quarter but point taken. The big tres look tired to me lately, esp. KG and RA.

by Berkcelt on Jan 6, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

More Gabe? MORE Scal!

Well apparently Tony was injured in the Knicks game.

Celtic coach Doc Rivers said the involvement of Gabe Pruitt and Brian Scalabrine would likely be increasing, regardless of Allen’s status.

“We have to figure out a way to get (Scalabrine) on the floor,” Rivers said. “He does a lot of good things for us.”

Funny, I only see Scal’s name in that quote…

by Berkcelt on Jan 6, 2009 2:18 PM EST reply actions  

hmm, there was supposed to be a link with that, quote is from the Boston Globe celtics blog

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2009/01/tony_allen_inju.html

spears also has a post about Austin Croshere.

by Berkcelt on Jan 6, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

There is no 2nd Unit

Doc should mix it up more, imo.
Was there ever a Championship team in the history of the NBA that relied on a complete bench unit for 8-10 minutes per game? Does anybody think we´ll see a complete bench unit in the playoffs, or even a 10-man-rotation?

You can´t look at the second unit and say “Oh, we could use Marbury, cause we have noone on the bench who can create his own shot”, since a whole bench unit on the floor is already a failure to begin with.

Doc is not a bad coach. He won CoY and a Championship. He is a very likeable guy and I give him credit for how he handled a completely new team with three superstars. The Celtics teams he coached before last season were awful, and the record wasn´t really his fault. I could bet everything I have that he knows a million times more about basketball than I do.
But his rotations flat out suck, imo.

by Casperian on Jan 6, 2009 2:59 PM EST reply actions  

Second Unit

Casperian, Let us know how you really feel! lol However, I tend to agree with you that this experiment has not succeeded. Hopefully a solution will be found before the playoffs. I was thinking the same….that complete units are not usually exchanged, people are rested in alternating stages leaving some starters on the floor. I do believe that Doc knows what he is doing and that he wants to win even more than I do. If this experiment doesn’t click soon, I feel sure that Doc will change it.

by thirstyboots18 on Jan 6, 2009 5:13 PM EST reply actions  

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