Not suprised here, I could see from early on they were gonna lose this game, and an OT loss isnt exactly what a tired team needs on the first night of a back to back….

…but all I´ve found was the “We´re going to hell” button.

Is there any difference between these two?

Click…

I just got in and looked at the box score and wanted to puke. I’m going to go now and watch the game on NBA Broadband. But where were all the extra minutes for Pruitt and Scalabrine? What’s the problem with Doc? Is he that terrified of handing out minutes?

And AncientRivalry, I’ve noted you’ve been rather dismissive of Pruitt. And I’ve no idea of how he played tonight, for all six of his minutes. But simple math tells me the Celtics outscored Charlotte 13 to 5 while he was out there. So it’s not apparent he stunk the place up.

I guess I’d better reserve comment until I’ve seen this crappy game. Crud.

Just wow…

Just a little mid season slump. Don’t want to tire the guys out. Bench will be fine. Doc will be fine. Everyone will be fine. Not a thing to worry about. Wait til the playoffs, we’ll be great! We just want to give all these teams a false sense of security so we can really show em later.

both are dogs**t right now, the later especially. i don’t care how good you think you are. dribbling around in circles and half-post ups with a kick out for three over and over ago is useless, especially when everyone’s standing around on the d end. the Cs played hard defensively for about 6 minutes in the 3rd and went on a run. otherwise, they made a young team look very skilled by leaving lanes open all night, and not moving the ball on o.

Players are just lighting the celtics up every night…Guys are coming out and just having career nights…the defense sucks, and our offense is only good when we play good defensively….we are losing to the worst teams in the league guys, cmon this is bad…but whatever

When are people going to start calling out KG? I know some of us like to baby him…hes in serious decline and people are trying to point to everyone else for the problems when KG is hurting us right now

Another guy with a career night against the celtics. Against the Knicks it was Harrington and Wilson Chandler. Against the Warriors it was Steven Jackson. For the most part this team is playing no defense. 114 points tonight against the Bob cats. If this continues, the third playoff seed might be in jeopardy. I continue to think they will turn it around, but right now I think 60 wins could be a push with the way they are playing.

Thunder Knocks off the Knicks….good thing we didnt play the mighty thunder in this stretch…eek how embarrasing would that be

what else could explain the lack of effort and synchrony going on every night?

Yeah. Posey wouldn’t have helped.

Effort, intensity, hustle, versatility – none of that would make any difference.

Keep telling yourselves that.

This bench is a Danny Ainge-created mess.

PP is one of the few players, if not the only one showing any intensity or balls on this team right now. I bet he is getting really pissed off. I think it is Pierce and not Garnett who needs to grab this team by its collective neck and shake out all of the badness.

The celtics are tired period.
When you lose to bad teams like we have recently its not because the other teams are more talented or can play better basketball then the C’s, its because the celtics are in all likelyhood burnt out and tired .
They have played alot more games then most teams (since last year), had a short summer and have had the pressure and stress of everyone gunning for them since they are the champs.

Therefore I think its tme for the C’s to do the following 3 things which I think can give the frontline players some help and much needed rest.

1st) Start playing POB meaningfull minutes,
He can clog the middle and alter shots and has a nice offensive touch and when mixed with Perk and Garnett can help form a intimadating front line.
Remember he played well with the front line in the preseason when he was starting for injured Perk all those games.
Until we get another veteran bigman with length (hurry up Danny) letting POB play will prepare him for possible use down the line in the playoffs (exspecially if Garnet or Perk get hurt or if we need him for his size and fouls against the Cavs & Lakers bigman in the playoffs) and will also let us see what he has so we can evaluate if he is worth keeping next year, which I think he is.

2nd)Next Play Gabe Pruit.
This kid can play as he does it all handle the ball, dish and score and can give the entire back court a blow.

3rd) Sign Marbury and Alonzo Mourning who will add allstar frontline depth, toughness & swager to the bench.

If the following is done to get the frontline the rest it needs I think the C’s will be in great shape for the playoffs and to obtain championship # 18
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The bench was fine. The starters lost another game. Perkins has been bovine lately.

I’ve only watched the first half, but the second half stats seem to confirm what I was seeing.

First off, since I’ve been among those who’ve been championing Pruitt, let me comment on his contribution, all six minutes of it (thanks, Doc). Tonight he didn’t do much of anything… except for keeping things running smoothly while he was out there. Essentially, he didn’t cause any problems (moved the ball briskly, no turnovers, no fouls, no moving picks by his teammates). As a result, the Celtics were able to go on a 13 to 5 run and take the lead. So chalk up another good outing for his limited minutes.

And here’s the main thing, Pruitt was able to get Rondo off the floor for awhile. And that was good, because Rondo was stinking the place up. I love Rondo, but he had 9 turnovers tonight. On top of that, he was doing that super annoying thing of driving all the way to the basket, and then passing it back to the 3-pt arc. If his teammate missed the attempted 3, the Hornets would then grab the rebound and run down and score on transition. The Celtics suck on transition defense, especially when Rondo starts out under the basket.

I want Rondo driving, but he’s got to use better sense about what he does once he gets into the paint.

The other major thing is that tonight and against the Knicks, the Celtics hit on about 25% on their 3 point attempts. Meanwhile their opponents are hitting about 42%. That’s enough difference right there to lose a lot of games. So the Celts aren’t closing out on the arc very well.

And again (since it’s so important), when the Celtics miss a 3, and Rondo’s all the way under the basket, the Celtics are getting killed on transition. (And I don’t see what the absence of Posey has to do with any of that.)

When he decides to attack on offense and on defense, the C’s play well. When he walks it up the court and let’s his man penetrate, the C’s struggle. He played well in spurts today (mainly at the end of the third), but he needs to attack all game, or at least until they are up by 20.

Maybe KG needs to stop the Dennis Rodman act, everyone we play has extra energy not just because we are the champs but because of KG’s behavior.

After watching last night’s debacle, I’m really looking forward to his contributions.

It doesn’t work that way. Clutchiness has a lot to do with luck. Even the best teams in the history of the NBA didn’t win a lot more of close games than the worst teams. We were winning an awful lot of close games, now it’s payback time.

i agree with brick. the subs did not lose the game. perk has looked tired or disinterested lately. no techs, less fouls, less intensity. our opponents have the swagger and we don’t. you can read the body language. rondo for the most part made many good plays, but 46 mins on the floor was too much. adam morrison? we can’t allow adam morrison to look like an all star and expect to win.