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Maybe Rondo Should Shoot More

Henry Abbot pointed out that Rondo has been taking most of his shots right at the rim this year.

Rondo is shooting a brilliant 52% this season, as good as any point guard. How can you leave him open? A peek at NBA.com's hot zones reveals he has made 127 of his 205 shots at the rim. Everywhere else on the floor, however, he is a miserable 23 of 85.

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A follow up post has a link to blog (Be The Three) that points out that Rondo shot from the outside much more last year.

As a Celtics fan, I was curious. I remembered Rondo hitting jump shots at a decent rate when the Lakers (and other teams) tried the same defense on him in the playoffs last year. I went to NBA.com's hot spots, and found out I was right. During the playoffs, Rondo shot 55-for-133 at the rim and 53-for-131 from everywhere else on the floor, a much more even split. Most important (from the perspective of a Celtics fan, at least), Rondo made 31 of 63 long two-point attempts--almost exactly half. (The trend was the same in the regular season, too. Per 82games, Rondo took 44 percent of his shots from inside last year, compared to 60 percent this year).

Point being: he can make a 15- to 20-foot jumper, and I think he should be taking those shots.

Its all about confidence.  If he has the confidence to shoot them, he'll make enough of them to make the defenders think twice about leaving him wide open.  The only way to get that confidence is to start taking those shots in the game (and note to Doc: let him take the shots without benching him if he misses a few).

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a couple of thoughts.

rondo is an enormously skilled athlete. But he has bad form. I point out the athlete part because jordan went from competent to exellent by teaching himself how to shoot, and that improvement was because he was a high IQ great athlete.

I don’t buy the “Rondo’s hands are to big to cup the ball” argument. If he wanted to, he could figure out how to shoot over the course of one month.

Second point is that bob ryan claimed rondo is a one-offer. I don’t buy this either. Jason Kidd and Rondo share the same skill set. Rondo, if he doesn’t teach himself how to shoot, can be like Kidd.

By the way, Hondo taught himself how to shoot late in life, too.

Rondo, meet Hondo.

by Page_and_Plant on Jan 7, 2009 3:05 PM EST reply actions  

confidence

btw, my above comments tie into confidence. If you don’t have good form, you need to feel like you are hot before you shoot it. If you have good form, you always feel like the next one is going down.

So it doesn’t surprise me that he shoots well from outside, because he only shoots when he feels it.

by Page_and_Plant on Jan 7, 2009 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

Tony Parker

the CSL guys pointed out that Rondo should take a cue from Tony Parker and utilize the teardrop floater more as he approaches the lane – it keeps the bigs guessing as he drives towards the paint

"Would I rather be feared or loved? Easy. Both. I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." Michael Scott

by Jeff Clark on Jan 7, 2009 3:10 PM EST reply actions  

Me thinks..

The floater might be the hardest shot in the game of basketball.

Tony Parker just makes it look unbelievably easy.

Rajon would have to put in a lot of work to make that a consistently reliable shot.

Rondo doesn't believe in easy buckets...

by ManUp on Jan 7, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely

Rondo should shoot more! But why stop there? Rondo should shoot more, Perk should start shooting 3’s, Bill Walker should be recalled from the D-League and shoot only halfcourt hook shots, KG should hang on the offensive end while the C’s are on D, Ray Allen should start at center! Definitely the guy with the worst shooting stroke this side of Barkley’s golf swing should shoot more!

by Jesus Shuttlesworth #20 on Jan 7, 2009 3:10 PM EST reply actions  

LOL

TP for creativity

add to this:

Big Baby should teach dieting
we should throw Scal more alley oops
Patrick O’Bryant should play more

"Would I rather be feared or loved? Easy. Both. I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." Michael Scott

by Jeff Clark on Jan 7, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

If his shooting percentage went down 7 points it’d still be above average for his position.

Jamaal Wilkes had the worst shooting stroke of his era and was a great shooter. Rondo’s stroke isn’t nearly as bad and his shot seems to go in more often than it doesn’t.

by Finkelskyhook on Jan 7, 2009 3:23 PM EST reply actions  

This is a joke!

Rondo is absolutely horrid outside the rim. I don’t want him shooting any more out there until he learns to shoot.

As far as the rim, that’s actually quite horrid as well. How on earth can the guy who shoots most of those as layups only hit 62%?! My buddy who isn’t a Celts fan but watches when he can to discuss with me asked me the other day why Rondo misses so many layups. Sadly I have no answer.

The truth is Rondo should only shoot wide open layups and pass the rest of the time.

by EJPLAYA on Jan 7, 2009 4:02 PM EST reply actions  

Little harsh?

Rondo has become a better finisher at the the rim this year, and he only seems to miss when they’re highly contested, even then he gets it to go more than last season..
You are the same dude who rips Paul Pierce after reading boxscores about him letting guys go off hes not even guarding

by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 7, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

You are the same dude...

who doesn’t read posts, because you obviously have no idea what I said. I was referring to PP’s lack of defensive intensity the entire season and the numerous guys at the SF position who have lit him up all year. Same goes with TA. Other than Perk I would actually say the entire starting unit is not playing up to last years intensity level and that has contributed greatly to our rough play. Rondo is choosing to let his guy get by him and try and poke the ball out from behind. KG isn’t the same. (although I think it is him being hurt) Ray is having a tougher time keeping in front of his guy. No one is challenging the 3 as much.

These stats don’t seem to indicate he is a better finisher at the rim. Very rarely does the guy shoot anything but layups, and many of them are wild high off the backboard. When he is indeed open he lays it in just fine. He shouldn’t shoot a jumper though. He just can’t shoot.

by EJPLAYA on Jan 7, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

He's not open as much

The big difference between this year and last year is that defenses play him a little tighter. Last year, especially against the Cavs and the Lakers in the playoffs, he had open 15 footers whenever he wanted them. This year, there’s usually someone there to contest them, partially because they know he can make them, and partially because he’s proven to be so explosive if he gets that first open step with the ball.

To me, it doesn’t look like he’s passing up wide-open shots all that frequently. He chooses to go at the hoop and disrupt the defense, which seems to work pretty well. I don’t know that our offense would get any better if Rondo became a volume shooter.

That said, I don’t agree with the idea that he’s a horrible shooter. He’s a decent shooter, but his main talents are speed and ball handling, and I’d rather focus his touches on trying to accomplish something with his speed than with his shooting.

by JamesMartinCole on Jan 7, 2009 4:06 PM EST reply actions  

to clarify

I’d like him to shoot more 10 – 15 footers and develop a midrange game

I would make him do 50 pushups for every 3 pointer he shot with over 3 seconds on the shot clock

"Would I rather be feared or loved? Easy. Both. I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." Michael Scott

by Jeff Clark on Jan 7, 2009 4:13 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed, he needs less carrot and more stick

If only we had a decent back-up PG (which Gabe could be, if Doc would play him), you could threaten to sit Rondo when he screws up. But alas …

I also agree with EJPLAYA that Rondo is a surprisingly bad finisher. Nonetheless, he’s my subjectively favorite player.

"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark

by Eeyore III on Jan 7, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

well

maybe if he didn’t do that behind the back ballfake before he goes in for layups he’d have more control over the ball

….just sayin

"Would I rather be feared or loved? Easy. Both. I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." Michael Scott

by Jeff Clark on Jan 7, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Lol, off topic but

I used to use that move when I was younger. It made doing a finger roll easier because I didn’t know how to create the moment to keep the ball going forward. It was less of a ball fake as me cocking the ball back and forward, hahaha. Oh well I’ve got a nice finger roll now…

Rondo doesn't believe in easy buckets...

by ManUp on Jan 7, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree.

I like Rondo a lot. I think he individually is the difference in wins and losses this year. When he plays his game the way he should we are impossible to beat. When he gets full of himself or stops attacking the basket we play poorly.

by EJPLAYA on Jan 7, 2009 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice idea!

I would rather see him shoot 500 of those 10-15 footers each day though for a year before he starts taking them in a game. He just can’t hit them because he has no confidence.

by EJPLAYA on Jan 7, 2009 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

But really..

Last year he was almost automatic (yeah I said it) from 10-15 foot range. He was very confident in that shot until the play-offs came along. This year he barely takes them and there’s always a bit of hesitation right before he takes it. Looks like Rajon didn’t put in the work needed to keep the shot, and it left. It might also be just a confidence thing, I keep hearing that he takes and makes a lot of shots in practice (3pters included).

Rondo doesn't believe in easy buckets...

by ManUp on Jan 7, 2009 4:28 PM EST reply actions  

Its safe to he didnt work on making his shot better in the offseason, and doesnt deserve to be anywhere near an all star until he does…all stars improve there games…rondo isnt any better than last year, its just his chemistry that was better with the guys to start the year, which seems to be slippin and slippin fast

by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 7, 2009 4:32 PM EST reply actions  

Ouch, Harsh...

Ok maybe he didn’t improve on the technical parts of his game, but he is definitely a better player. He makes better decisions with the ball and is picking his spots a whole lot better than last year. He’s not ready for the all-star game I agree, but it’s not because of the jump shot. Rondo is still sometimes too passive with the ball, and in the all-star game he’d defer the entire night.

Rondo doesn't believe in easy buckets...

by ManUp on Jan 7, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

except for the part above...

where you said that he is finishing better at the rim this year than last year. So is he not any better than last year, or is he better finishing at the rim?

If you don’t see any improvement in Rondo’s overall game this year over last then you likely haven’t been watching any games… Maybe you are just getting all your info from the boxscores?!

by EJPLAYA on Jan 7, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

...he may be getting played closer...

…on a more frequent basis, but he is still seeing a lot of ops for wide open shots that he either misses or doesn’t take…

I think it is very, very clear that he didn’t work on his jump shot at all this past off-season….between years one and two it was quite evident that Rondo concentrated on his jumpshot due to the vast improvement in form and execution…this season his form and finish has digressed to the point where I think it is quite safe to assume he focussed on other elements of his game…

…good news is that he should be able to go into the gym in his spare time and start working on it again, as well as pre-game shooting, etc…Rondo needs to hit set shots though or he’ll eliminate a huge amount of PT from his resume…and subsequently force the team to find a true backup PG who can play 18+ minutes a night….

by BillfromBoston on Jan 7, 2009 5:26 PM EST reply actions  

Come on guys, one thing is clear to the whole league

Rondo is a driver of the ball and has no shot at all. He is not a shooter he drives and his skill is quickness but not shooting. Now lets back to helping our team.

by sigmond floyd on Jan 8, 2009 8:48 PM EST reply actions  

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