History Repeating - Market Correction
ESPN's Daily Dime has an interesting chart today.
| Longest Win Streaks In League History (*won NBA title) | |||
| Year | Team | Wins | Following the Streak |
| 1971-72 | Lakers* | 33 | Lost 4 of 6 |
| 2007-08 | Rockets | 22 | Lost 5 of 8 |
| 1970-71 | Bucks* | 20 | Lost 5 of 6 |
| 2008-09 | Celtics | 19 | Lost 6 of 8 |
| 1999-00 | Lakers* | 19 | Won 11 of 12 |
Maybe Kelly Dwyer is right:
The Celtics lost again, but Boston fans should not be worried, and Laker/Cavalier/whomever-backers should halt the funeral proceedings. It's not normal for a team like Boston to win as many games as they did over the first two months of the season against competition that stiff. Teams were and are gunning for the C's in a way I haven't seen teams attack the defending champs since the 90s Bulls, and sooner or later the Celtics are going to lose a few. Regression to the mean. Learn to enjoy it.
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Apparently Sir Rant's Alot Panic has left the building?
“Each journey begins and also ends.” – Master Po (also includes losing streaks) Batteries not included.
Is it Soup Yet?
by Master Po on Jan 8, 2009 11:17 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'll change my mind another 15 times by sundown
‘cause that’s how I roll
"Would I rather be feared or loved? Easy. Both. I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." Michael Scott
by Jeff Clark on Jan 8, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
phew...
Great post. I feel a little better now.
by MoneyBagsBob on Jan 8, 2009 11:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jeff and the group has already made an exhaustive, complete list of what is wrong
Last night the turnovers weren’t bad, we lose anyway. The d is pretty good, we lose anyway. We again lose and Houston doesn’t even have Battier or McGrady.
Almost all the criticism has some truth to it even if its not wholy correct. We have almost universal agreement that we are short a long big who is physical, one outsider shooter, and better back up play at the point. A not so small minority has though we might already have the answer to one or two of those points on the team with Pruitt so there is some Doc blaming going on too. KG, Perk and PP all look like they are playing hurt to me. Tony Allen has been hurt for weeks, I think.
If the Celts can add a shooter, a big, play the bench more to get the starters rest and they get healthy, and we get the home court advantage, I think we win it all again. We need for the Cavs and Lakers to hit the skids too. There is a decent shot this all happens. The celtics have an advantage late this year that is not often mentioned. The Lakers had Kobe and Gasol play in the Olympics all summer. Cle had Lebron doing the same. I would think at some point we will see fatigue kick in for them and it may be at just the right time for the Celtics
by wahz on Jan 8, 2009 11:27 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t agree that they need another big. That’s just an excuse. If Powe or BBD is too short for a particular matchup, use O’Bryant.
by Brickowski on Jan 8, 2009 11:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I really, really, REALLY don’t think that LA or Cleveland are special enough teams to keep up their pace all season (although Kobe and Lebron are special players themselves).
Assuming that is the case, I would MUCH rather have our rough patch earlier, than later, which we must assume will happen with those teams. If they never struggle all season, then god help us we never had a chance anyways! As long as we can keep close through our tough time, we should seperate ourselves once they struggle.
As for the big, we definitely need another! How would we have fared through the playoffs last year without PJ??? LA has gotten stronger down low, CLE has stayed the same, and we lost our most effective big down the stretch.
by burnin green on Jan 8, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bg, I agree those teams almost have to hit a similar enough patch to what we have had so far. The Celts just have to right their own ship. I appreciate Brick thinking we don’t need a longer big but its just too easy at times on both ends for the opponents without another long guy. Perk seems very off right now and KG only periodically asserts himself down there anyway. POB hasn’t done anything for us to have faith in. Perks shoulder is enough of a reason to get another big.
Part of me thinks if we were healthy, and had home court, we might win it all anyway. But we are better off adding some pieces than staying the course, imho.
by wahz on Jan 8, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And really I do think fatigue will really kick in for Pau, Kobe and Lebron come playoff time
I would be really shocked if they don’t hit the wall.
by wahz on Jan 8, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Whats that matter
fatigue has already kicked in for us, come playoff time we wont even be able to get out of our own way
by TheAncientRivalry on Jan 8, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mental and emotional momentum is a curious thing. I think it swings back for the Celtics soon and they will look way better, physical fatigue or not. Kobe and Pau played as many games as the celtics did then they played all summer too. I think it will show up that they have logged too much work. We’ll see.
by wahz on Jan 8, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kobe has no history of being fatigued
ever in his career. Name a year he has. If anything, he and most Phil Jackson teams have shown that they are at their peak come playoff time.
by wondahbap on Jan 8, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s how they are losing that creates a concern: older players fading in the 4th quarter.
Part of it is Rivers’ poor rotations: he plays his starters too long in the second and third quarters.
I do not blame the bench or the composition of the team. Those are just red herrings. They need to use the players they have differently.
And contrary to Rivers’ published views, I thing Garnett, Pierce and Ray Allen could benefit tremendously from a week off. Send each one to a top notch resort with a good spa, under instructions to relax and do absolutely nothing for a week.
by Brickowski on Jan 8, 2009 11:49 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I haven't seen the game yet so I think it makes me eminently qualified to comment on it.
Based on the bizarre commentary that I read during and after the Charlotte game and the losses before:
-The bench sucks
-The bench lost the game
-Scalabrine should never play basketball again
-The bench has no size and no PG (forget Brick’s commentary pointing out the Charlotte game where we had a size advantage and still got beaten inside)
-O’Bryant can’t play
-Pierce is the greatest basketball player on the planet
-The bench sucks
-Garnett’s antics only enhance this team and it’s ridiculous to call his antics a distraction.
-We should cut our entire bench and bring in Marbury, Latrine Sprewell, Mark Blount, Ricky Davis, and Marcus Banks because KG will shine his godly light upon them and they will play like all stars like they did when they were his teammates. The CBO be damned, they’re no risk because they can be unconditionally cut if they don’t behave.
-The bench sucks
-If I forgot to mention it, the bench sucks.
Now, I’m going to watch the game.
by Finkelskyhook on Jan 8, 2009 1:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
wow, thanks for that, that makes me feel better. there is no denying the trend, the natural tendancy, in those numbers.
by chicagogreen on Jan 8, 2009 4:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Gunning for the Celtics
I certainly wouldn’t write the Celtics off, particularly in a multiple game run. I do think the lakers will beat them in the finals, but I think they’ll make the finals.
That said, I suspect that the lack of sportsmanship (“punking” the Blazers and KG getting on all fours to mock Bayless) may be part of the reason teams are going at the Celtics so hard. I know that the Celtics game in Portland was the loudest most intense game I’ve been to since game 6 western conference finals when teh blazers were coming back from 1/3 and the end team was the Pacers (can you say easy rings).
Celtics in free fall? Naw… I wouldn’t panic on your end. They’ll find their ground and turn it around. I suspect they’ve earned a lot of ire from other teams and hence the abnormal passion it sounds like you’re facing. My guess anyway.
Greg Oden, where posters happen.
by ratbastird on Jan 8, 2009 5:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs






















