House must be benched, for starters. That won’t fix everything, but it’s a start.

They need Tony Allen back— badly. Pierce looks incredibly slow. He just turned the ball over again and again and again. He telegraphed every pass he threw.

Where are the Celtics and who are these 15 guys in green that showed up tonight? Not any Celtics im familiar with. No confidence, no heart, no fight. Celtics need that killer instinct back!!!!!

this would have been a tough game to win if we were playing well. as it is we are not playing well so winning seemed improbable. I really thought we were right where we wanted to be in the 3rd qtr but we made a couple of bad turnovers and lebron made some buckets and we were never able to close the gap. we got it to 3 but as with out other losses it just seems we’re not getting the ball to drop when we need it or we’re turning it over. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a team turn so many 3 footers into 25 footers. give the cavs credit though especially lebron. Yes pierce came up small but who doesn’t against lebron. his strength and speed are unreal. I think we will win our next game but we have to play D from the beginning of the game and not starting in the 3rd qtr

There is no urgency with this team right now. KG stepped it up a bit in this game, I was starting to get worried he was hurting and getting tired out there both mentally and physically. Meanwhile, Rondo was hustling, got 13 assists even with guys not making shots. Ray needs to start shooting better. Get back to the basics here folks. Also, the baby + powe tandem just doesn’t work Doc. There’s gotta be a bigger guy in there with them. I wouldn’t mind trying someone like POB, or just keep KG or Perk out there a bit with one of them. OR sign someone. But I’d like to see some POB first, and maybe JR Giddens and Bill Walker for short energy necessities (almost like Walter McCarty used to do) – def something we could’ve used tonight.

House should not get off the bench next game
They badly need some size and scoring off the bench
The offense is an absolute mess
They are a laughingstock right now and yet they just seem to be sitting back and taking it. I don’t get it.

LeBron didn’t occasionally bail out the Celtics by taking deep threes (some of which he made anyway), he could’ve outscored the “big three” tonight.

I was surprised. I thought I saw signs that the C’s had turned a corner as far as intensity. They may have but it wasn’t enough to even keep this game close.

Eddie House’s play is aggravating the crap out of me right now. If he can’t hit threes why is he in the NBA?

Varejao needs to be decked for real so he doesn’t need to fake it.

I was expecting Ashton Kutcher to pop out in the post game. We just got punked.

But, as a lifelong fan and a seas ticketholder I am quickly getting to the point where I am happy that they won number 17 last year and am rapidly realizing that they are not going to repeat this year and likely not get out of the East or even make it to the eastern finals. Rondo was a -19 tonight and Ray Allen has shot 16-63 in the last six games. Put a fork in ’em.

Kendrick was sort of playing out of his head early in the season. He now is playing like the career backup I expected him to be.

Near the end of the second quarter, Van Gundy said that Lebron is, right now, better than Larry…

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. The kid played a heck of a game tonight, but let’s not get crazy!

He’s young and he’s very good… but he is not better than Larry Bird.

On an other note…. the C’s need to get better if they want home court advantage!!!!

Well said espn4….

As I mentioned in another Forum…

Is Lebron THAT much better than Dr. J or Dominique in their primes???

Lebron hasnt won anything…yet being the key word…sorry but lebron is an absoulte specimen beast

Much better? Why?

Scoring = no
Rebounding = no
passing = no

Just kidding, but it feels like the many sad years before 2007-2008. What’s ML Carr?

As far as I’m concerned, when Lebron has won 3 MVPs and 3 Championships, then (and only then) can he even be in the same discussion with Larry.

But… as he is only 24, he has lots of time to get to it…

ummm…

Dr J. won and MVP and a championship.

As of today – Lebon has neither.

It is time for House to go. There is a reason why he has played for so many teams in his career.

As the Stones would say….

“Time, time time is on his side.”

But NOT YET.. stop with the ’love fest"

Im usually not one to talk about Gabe….but….uh…..he needed minutes in the 2nd half, period

and the way the Celtics are playing make it hard to get to sleep. I need to get up at 6 tomorrow to bring my son to indoor lacrosse, but cannot get to sleep. Too aggravated.

How about this:
- Get Garnett in the post once in a while
- move the ball on offense
- play with some passion
- get ona offensive rebound

These things might get us back on track.

I hate the ESPN announcing squad so bad. It was literally painful to listen to them. The playoffs are going to be an ordeal to watch with their terrible, terrible announcing.

As for the Celtics, I’m not worried. So many users on this site are so extremely pessimistic – it truly amazes me. We know what this team can do and they are still the most dominant team in the league, minor losing streak or not. Have faith.

Wonder how Iverson had made it so long in the NBA given how small he is?

As bad as they looked…Rondo had 13 assists, 4 steals and only two turnovers. He couldn’t shoot a lick but that isn’t a bad line. Perkins was great until he hurt his shoulder. Garnett had 15 boards. I am amazed at how negative everyone can get about this. Yes it sucks but…hasn’t anyone seen the records of the teams that have had long winning streaks come to an end? All the teams that have had long streaks have a losing streak to follow. Ray is in a funk, Rondo isn’t 100%, our best bench player is out. What do you want. I totally agree that our team is not as good as last year…but…didn’t Danny and Doc make some moves during the season last year that put us over the edge? Be patient. Two weeks ago we were on top of the world. Do a few losses really make this a crappy team.

It makes me sick to read some of the posts from you “supposed” diehard fans!

Eddie House IS the problem. The offense stagnates when he’s in there. They become strictly a jump shooting team.

In fact, if it puts House on the bench, I’m in favor of bringing in Marbury, or bozo the clown, for that matter, if he doesn’t dribble away half the clock before initiating the offense.

True…

patience and a rededication to what WAS working is going to be key

Well, you remember the Houton rockets team that went back-to-back and everyone wrote them off the 2nd year? thats looking like our path to follow, and as Rudy Tomjanovich said all those years ago “Never Underestimate the heart of a champion” granted that team got some breaks in the playoffs with the #8 Nuggets knocking off the #1 Sonics…but hey anythings possible..we’re gonna need some breaks in the playoffs to repeat

P Pierce – Something is wrong with Paul. He’s either sick, or depressed (or both), or just getting old. He should definitely get a full metabolic workup to eliminate the first possibility. Anyway, he is NOT playing up to his par level at all. Turns the ball over many times, no energy, and not getting much help from his teammates, who seem to think they can pass him the ball and walk away (like last year).

KG – doing fine.

Ray – In a major slump. Still active as always, but shot is way off.

Rondo – Absolutely SUCKS now. He’s playing scared, and badly. I guess he never was that good to begin with.

Perk – Doing ok. But that shoulder of his is a real Achilles heel. You never know when he’ll be sidelined because somebody hits his arm in a funny way.

Eddie – Interesting how he got hot only when the game was out of reach. Points to a mental issue. The pressure is getting to him. He needs a fistful of chill pills or whatever it takes to be a PRO, which means you perform all the time, not just when it doesn’t matter anymore.

Powe – Mr. Reliable.

B Baby D. – Tries hard, yes. But let’s not kid ourselves, this guy barely qualifies for the NBA. You know that’s the case when everybody goes gaga every time he hits one of those weird jumpers of his… you know, where he shoots like an injured duck falling off a cliff.

Scal – Smart, but let’s face it, he does not have the physical talent for the NBA. Maybe if he lost 40 pounds…

Tony Allen – Just plain sucks. Mostly, he’s just too stupid.

Patrick OB – I like this guy. Needs more play time. Could develop into a force given the chance.

Pruitt – Potential great player. Definitely needs more playing time to find out.

I believe the Cavs will win the championship this season. They’re playing the best combined offense/defense in the league right now, and there’s every reason to believe this will continue. Cs have a shot, but they don’t have a BEAST on their team like Lebron, so it’s gonna be hard, and probably won’t happen, sadly.

Do people really think that only Celtics’ players are fighting nagging injuries? Every team has injuries. Why can’t people just admit that the Celtics are playing like crap and there are significant issues with this team?

1. LeBron is the best player I have ever seen other than MJ. I can’t stand him, but only because he does not play on the Celtics.
2. KG is hurt. He is limping around during the second half, has no spring, no quick step. He needs to take off about 2 weeks to rest his wheels.
3. Doc needs to change the rotations. Pruitt needs more of Eddie’s minutes, maybe all of them. O’Bryant needs to get some or all of Powe’s minutes. Powe has hit his ceiling for now. He needs to get hungry again. BBD deserves his minutes, he is the only guy who seems to hustle every minute he is on the floor.
4. Ray needs to rest his wheels. He is missing too many jump shots.
5. Rondo needs more rest. Give Pruitt some of his minutes too until Marbury gets bought out. Hey, Marbury, hurry up and get bought out already, we actually need you now!!

because he looks tired…

Oh, and Varajoa should be kicked out of the league, for being such a cry baby and flopper. I just can’t stand him

I’m legitimately surprised by the Cavs winning this game. I didn’t think they were capable of a performance of this nature without Big Z anchoring the middle for them.

Impressive game by Cleveland.

This is a kid that has it all offensively and is a great shot blocker…but what an epic under achiever…we need his length damnit

We have screamed and cried and raised hell for months.Will danny do something? I think so but, we will see how it works out. You have to be realistic that its probably too late. We are 3 games down in the loss column,. If start right now we will have some trouble making that up. a terrible day

Although the Celtics’ defense was awful at times, LeBron made absolutely insane shots consistently from wire to wire. He forced the Celtics to leave him open, and he forced the Celtics to a 7-13 point deficit most of the way. Then Mo Williams stepped up. Then Gibson, then Varejao. At some point, it was only that their shots were going in and ours weren’t. But then everyone was demoralized, so turnovers started raining in, and the game was over.

how many people take him now???

TA, Ray, Gabe, and EH can all play the 1 or 2. Some are a little undersized but half our team is undersized! We can find room for Marbury off the bench. Garnett would put him in his place if he got lippy!! He would bring scoring and spreading of the floor because you can’t lay off him. Along with Joe Smith or Alonzo, we would be good to go IMO.

I think it is obvious that something will be done sooner than later, especially with losses to LA and Cle.

Someone brought up the Hawks getting blown out as a bright spot tonight? except they got blown out by the magic, sorry but we shouldve been rooting for the hawks tonight

The Powe, BBD combo simply is not cutting it, and won’t. If I’m Ainge, I’m on the phone with several teams right now, trying to get a guy that will bring that to our team:

Joe Smith
Drew Gooden
Marcus Camby

Those would be my top 3 targets. Include the rooks in the deal if needed.

And we surpass the amount of losses we had all last year…something to shoot for! WOOO … and to think we started 27-7…what the heck? its safe to say theres no chance we win 66 games this year, we havent even played half of the good teams once this year

i thought the C’s defense looked quite good in the 3rd quarter. The cavs were stagnant on offense, the exception being lebron. the cavs aren’t nearly as deep as the celtics. with the exception of james, who could score under pressure? everyone just stood around waiting for james to do something. i still think the celtics are an overall more talented team, they just played a very confident team in a very harsh environment. Let the celtics beat up on some lesser teams at home, and they’ll quickly regain their confidence.

did anyone notice garnett’s shoulder bump on lebron james while the ball was out of play? not really sure what he was trying to prove there…

ps lebron james is a monster. possibly better than kobe at this point.

Here it is. Perhaps not groundbreaking in any way, but here we go.

Everyone else got better roster-wise, and we got worse.

The cavs added Mo Williams. The Lakers got Bynum back. The Rockets got some combination of Artest, Yao and T-Mac to play together.

We lost Posey. Instead of replacing him, we got a lackluster center in POB and we gave BRIAN SCALABRINE more minutes. Now I truly do admire scals for the effort he puts in off the bench. He is a good natured, good spirited guy, who puts a lot of heart into his game. What he is not is a good basketball player.

My point is that at the beginning of the season everyone else was adjusting to roster changes, and we were riding the momentum coming off last year’s post season. The starters were fresh, and able to shoulder the load. As the season wears on, they are going to need some help.This stagnant roster is regressing because more and more pressure is being put on EVERYONE.

Part of it is also psychological. Drop a loss in LA, and a consecutive loss in GS, and you start to wonder.

I am calling for Danny Ainge to make a move, and for these guys to band together and put winning first again. PP (my favorite player in the NBA) will never be as good as LeBron and Kobe, but those guys will never put aside personal numbers for the team like Ray, Pierce and Garnett did last year.

I do not think we will win if we don’t get back on track mentally, and if the front office doesn’t start assembling a bench capable of contributing quality minutes.

Sorry for the long windedness, but these are my observations after a truly disappointing holiday season for the C’s.

I am very disappointed with the team right now. There’s no other way to put it. I give kudos to Doc for still being calm during the huddles. If I were Doc, I’d be blowing my top off screaming for these guys to get their act together. Pardon me but I need to put some steam out here.

What the heck is wrong with Rondo? Why can’t he go full attack mode all the time? When he attacks the basket, good things happen. Get to the freaking basket. It’s not like I’m asking House to take it to the hoop.

KG needs to stop taking those 20-footers all the time. Use your size and post up every once in a while. Take advantage of mismatches. I’m pretty sure he could take Wallace to school 9 out of 10 times.

Ray Allen needs to show up on the offense. Take more shots. Tonight, West or Wally World was on him. I don’t think it would take a genius to figure out that Allen could beat his man most of the time. Allen needs to take charge for the team especially when Pierce is clearly being handcuffed by Lebron on this game.

I’m losing hope on the bench by the day. We need new blood on the bench. Clearly, the bench isn’t getting the job done. Danny better be working on something right now.

With that said, I have to give credit to Cleveland. Lebron is a monster. He clearly outplayed Pierce and should be a very good contender for the MVP award for the season. The Cavs played excellent defense on the C’s during this game. They are, right now, a legit threat for the title. They wanted it more than the C’s and it clearly showed on this game.

I’m done ranting. I hope the C’s get their acts together by the next game or it will be a very embarrassing season for us.

In an offseason when each team improved, Danny Ainge didn’t improve the Celtics. It’s as simple as that. If you’re to repeat, you have to improve, and the Celtics got worse. I (and any sighted person) could see that not re-signing Posey and not properly replacing Cassell and Brown was a step backward. Big Baby? O’Bryant? Please.
Thankfully, Doc’s not to blame. There’s just too much pressure on the bench to produce. And the Biggish 3 ain’t getting any younger.

 who just knocked us off, at home by 4, got a tougher test tonight from the mighty thunder, but were able escape with the victory

the C’s are obviously tired. I also think Cleveland did a good job beating the D and spreading the floor. It allow Lebron to drive to the basket. The C’s D could not collapse to help out.

House is out of position. We all know this. He’s a streaky shooter who’s doing his job.

why doesn’t sam cassell play more? is he injured?