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Brian Scalabrine Could Have a Breakout Season

Brian Scalabrine is not a very talented basketball player. He's not overly athletic or surprisingly quick. When he rises up to dunk the basketball, our eyes open wide with surprise, rather than with awe. And when he dons a white headband, the jokes fly. 

So what exactly is Brian Scalabrine? He's a jump shooting role player. Period. That's about all we can hope to expect from Scal. When he signed a 15 million dollar contract back in 2005, expectations were obviously high. We had just spent 15 million on this former New Jersey Net. Surely, for 15 million, he would add a new dimension to our rebuilding effort, right? Unfortunately, Brian Scalabrine joined the Celtics at the worst possible time for him as an individual and for the Celtics as an organization.

He entered a locker room that featured Paul Pierce, Ricky Davis and Wally Szczerbiak. He also entered a locker room that featured Tony Allen, Gerald Green, Justin Reed and Oriene Greene. The 2005-2006 Boston Celtics were bogged down with young, promising talent. Brian Scalabrine was never meant to play with young, promising talent, like the way Mark Hamill was never meant to act in a movie without the words "Star" and "Wars" in the title. Brian Scalabrine was meant to play with proven veterans. And that's exactly why he will find success this season.

Star-divide

Scal's first two years as a Celtic were defined by exploitation. His inability to create his own shot was exploited. His overall lack of talent was exploited. It didn't take long for Celtics fans to realize Danny Ainge might have just made a 15 million dollar mistake. When surrounded by youth, the expectations for Scal rose to a level he never would have been able to reach. Amidst players a year removed from asking girls to the senior prom, who knew little of executing NBA offensive and defensive schemes, Scal was now one of the oldest players on the floor and with that experience and knowledge of the game came raised expectations. As a result, Scal arguably suffered worse than anyone through the defensive break downs and botched offensive possessions. 

When the team took an absolute nose dive a year later and finished with a 24-58 record, Scal was practically the laughing stock of Boston. We knew Pierce would deliver regardless of the scenario and Delonte West and Al Jefferson had potential. At least we had hope for players like those. But Scal? Scal was just there. He was the slightly pudgy red head who served as the face of the washed up 20 and 30 somethings who still believed they had an outside shot of playing in the NBA. With such a young team, Scal might have just served better as an assistant coach on the bench, rather than as a player in the game.

Then, a funny thing happened. Over the course of six weeks the following summer, the youth was shipped out of town in exchange for proven veteran talent. Unfortunately, Celtics fans' preconceptions and cemented opinions of Scal weren't changing as quickly as the team's title hopes. Now, instead of being the waste of money on a young team, he was simply the waste of money on an older team capable of winning a championship.

However, slowly but surely, amidst the heckling, the sarcastic cheers and the "Scal-a-brine!" chants, Scal's strengths on the court took shape over the next two seasons. He started in place of an injured Kevin Garnett back in '08 and provided some much necessary relief in the playoffs last season when he returned from post concussion syndrome. That's right, Brian Scalabrine was serving as the relief. And we were happy to have him. Especially now that he was playing alongside veterans.

And now that Boston's bench has been bolstered this season by Rasheed Wallace, Eddie House, Marquis Daniels and Glen Davis, Scal finds himself in the best possible scenario. Finally, at long last, he can do what he was meant to do for the Celtics.  He can serve as the fifth best player on the second unit, with no heightened pressure or expectations.

Scal fits in very well with this season's second unit. His main responsibility will be to take and make open shots when they present themselves, particularly three-pointers. He's not capable of carrying a unit by himself nor is he even capable of playing a truly substantial role with a unit. But with the current make up of the bench, he doesn't need to worry about initiating the offense or even serving as a staple or main stay of the offense. All he has to do is take advantage of his opportunities when they present themselves.

The pressure facing the second unit this season resides solely on Wallace, House, Daniels and Davis. They will always comprise the gut of the second five. Even before the season began we were certain those four players would be the first four off the bench. The fifth player was a mystery until training camp. Would it be Shelden Williams? Tony Allen? Lester Hudson? Nope. Apparently it will be Brian Scalabrine.

With Scal playing alongside the four heavy hitters, he'll never need to worry about the defense focusing on him and the offense will never run through him. At best, he'll find himself on a hot streak and knock down two or three straight three-point shots. Occasionally 'Sheed and co. might ride Scal's hot hand. But that will be the extent of Scal's output this season.

And we'll be satisfied with that. Who would complain with Scal averaging between six and nine points this season? Who will complain with Scal putting in two or three baskets from three-point nation every game? Against the Knicks last Friday he shot 3-4 from deep and finished with nine points. I was enthralled by such a performance. The hot streaks he might find himself on every now and then could be huge, especially if they come about late in the third quarter and help the C's build a comfortable lead heading into the final period. There's a legitimate chance we'll see Scal in the game with the second unit during that time. Maybe that's when he'll be able to do some damage.

I suppose I wouldn't be allowed to write this if I didn't mention it's a contract year for Scal. Okay, let's move on now.

Don't count Scal out on the defensive end, either. I will always applaud Scal's hustle and energy on the opposite side of the ball and he's very adept when it comes to guarding versatile big men, like the Dirk Nowitzkis and the Mehmet Okurs of the league.  At 6'9, he's tall enough  to contest their shots, quick enough to scamper around the perimeter with them and strong enough to bang down low should they attempt to post him up. And if all else fails down low, Wallace should be lying in the weeds with an extra serving of help defense.

Maybe the term "breakout" is a little strong for Scal. He'll still be overpaid regardless of his production this season. But nevertheless, the increased production I'm expecting should be enough for us to no longer harp on the fact that his stats have yet to live up to his cash. Instead, when we reminisce on this season, we'll think of Scal and smile to ourselves at how he managed to turn it all around when the situation was finally right.

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Scalabrine is beautiful, a true coaches dream. He will do anything asked and not complain. He makes very few mistakes. There are no high expectations so anything positive is gravy. He is happy just to be on the team and one of the guys.

This season is indeed an opportunity for him. I wish him well.

"First fix their hearts"-Eizo Shimabuku

by billysan on Oct 13, 2009 7:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Scal is not beautiful, sorry

and You basically just said absolutely nothing is expected of a guy who makes 15 mil, so if he happens to contribute, its all gravy? …okkk

by latin on Oct 13, 2009 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

The only problem is that in a lineup of House Daniels Scal Baby Sheed, Scal is playing the 3. Which means he has to do a little bit better than “scamper” around the perimeter.

Although i do agree with everything you’ve said here, Scal was mocked then when we had nothing else we had to turn to him and he rose for us. I love Scal and the way people heckle him makes me very upset. This IS Scals big year and if he can hit is open shots he’s gonna have the opportunity to put up some numbers this year.

by jesse_stoneham on Oct 13, 2009 7:10 AM EDT reply actions  

That's why Doc as much as said they'd have to try sticking Scal in at the 3 when Walker went down.

The hope was that Walker at the 3 or Hudson at the 1 would emerge as that 10th player. Walker’s injury has set him back and Hudson so far is holding his own, but Scal’s not meant to be in there through the whole season.

by clover on Oct 13, 2009 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Walker at the three, or Hudson as the other guard and Quis at the three is the best option. But there will be times against a taller/slower SF and Scal will be perfect for that matchup.

by jesse_stoneham on Oct 13, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good Article

Scal came into a bad situation and tried to do too much when given the chance to play. With this team his role is very much defined. To me shooting is the least of what he gives us, but I’ll take those threes. It’s his defense that I don’t people appreciate. After a play or two he can figure out whoever he’s defending and adjust his game to that. He’s very effective. It’s also all those intangibles that don’t appear in the box score. He can also hit his free throws.

"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn

by TrueGreen on Oct 13, 2009 7:54 AM EDT reply actions  

his biggest contribution

will be as an expiring deal that will be moved midseason (with TA and maybe others) for someone that would contribute more than a couple of buckets a game and some “scampering”. Preferably someone with a bit more of a an offensive game and the ability to rebound and/or ballhandle.

It’s not his fault he was offered a contract for more than he’s worth for at least 2 years too many but when a player signs for a contract there are expectations placed upon them to earn their pay. Unfortunately for Scal, he didn’t start to earn it until year 4 of his deal.

by slamtheking on Oct 13, 2009 7:59 AM EDT reply actions  

scal is useful, but very limited. usually, the more time he gets means there’s someone who has more potential that is getting less, like a gomes. nevertheless, he grows on you. shelden williams might not be the second coming of leon powe, but i hope scal is not allowed to crowd him out.

by nazzbo on Oct 13, 2009 7:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Good Article & Topic, but it's Missing Something

I think you should also touch on how the team statistically plays with him in the game. The 5-man units with Scal, over the course of the entire last season, performed very well and much better than some of the other options off the bench.

I know I’m the minority here, but I’d rather see Scal in there 80% of the time over BBD.. and last season statistics show it. Don’t tell me he guards crappy players.. Scal guards Amare, Bosh, and other high octane offensive players quite well.

More importantly though he limits his mistakes, knows his role on every posession, and spreads the floor successfully. And this is coming from someone who used to roast Scal and his contract!!

by TomHamilton30 on Oct 13, 2009 8:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Have you ever made a post without hating on BBD?
Yes, your are in the minority, why? because youre wrong

by latin on Oct 13, 2009 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Like most, I do like Scal...

But still, what a ridiculously stupid way to spend $15M!

by Title 18 on Oct 13, 2009 8:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Definently Overpaid,
But I still like Scal. Nothing but a glue guy, but a great glue guy for sure.
His press conference after the 2008 Championship still holds dear to me.

by Jackson34 on Oct 13, 2009 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was interesting read however Scal still doesn’t have the goods to be on this second unit, he’s one of the best paid athletes I’ve ever seen to not have any real talent.
His jump shot isn’t good enough to rely upon it, his defense is pathetic, his athleticism is that of a retired 40 year old man.
Scal is one very nice person and that’s what Danny got when he paid him $ 15 million dollars. He is literally the worst athlete on the team and probably the nicest
Danny couldn’t give Scal to any NBA team !!

by martin kenneth on Oct 13, 2009 8:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Would you mind breaking down for me why you describe his defense as "pathetic"?

-sw

Growing up in the Weinman household, you learn two rules very quickly if you aspire to reach double-digits in the years-of-age category: Hate thy Knick, hate thy Yankee.

Go Celtics, Go Dodgers. -sw

by Steve Weinman on Oct 13, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Scal's Alright by Me...

This is a great post about a guy who works hard!

What Scal lacks in athletics, he makes up for in basketball IQ. The guy may not be the most talented guy but he certainly is one of the most (basketball) astute. He understands his role and understands the game!

… and he’s damn funny too!

I’m glad Scal is still on our bench!

by North Station Sports on Oct 13, 2009 8:38 AM EDT reply actions  

I know I’m the minority here, but I’d rather see Scal in there 80% of the time over BBD.. and last season statistics show it. Don’t tell me he guards crappy players.. Scal guards Amare, Bosh, and other high octane offensive players quite well.

More importantly though he limits his mistakes, knows his role on every posession, and spreads the floor successfully. And this is coming from someone who used to roast Scal and his contract!!

by TomHamilton30 on Oct 13, 2009 5:03

You have got to be kidding !!!
Scal couldn’t guard Amare or Bosh with any success other than to deliberately foul them I seen nearly every game of the C’s over the last 4 years and I guarantee you Scal is a horrible defensive player 80% of the time ! His passing is so bad I expect a turn over every time he handles the ball !
BBD is a much better player than Scal

by martin kenneth on Oct 13, 2009 8:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Scal's Defense

I think Scal’s better on the defensive end then you give him credit for. As I wrote, he’s actually quite capable of hanging with those versatile big men and TomHamilton30’s right when he says Scal can handle the Boshs and the Amares.

It doesn’t mean Scal’s going to completely shut them down…Players like those are far too skilled on the offensive end to be shut out completely and that’s even with the NBA’s premiere defenders on them, but Scal’s actually very good at bothering and contesting shots and virtually being a headache for those guys. If you aren’t going to stop those guys completely anyway, what more can you ask for?

by Greg Payne on Oct 13, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

To Scalabrine’s credit, he’s a reliably disciplined player. If he’s going to get beat, then he’s going to be working to direct his opponent towards the ‘help’ side. He’s a solid utility guy.

by no kidding on Oct 13, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed, and ty

martin, go back to the box scores where Scal guarded Amare and Bosh. Scal plays smart D. Trust me, I used to give Scal a hard time but he’s proven his worth and he has improved as well.

And as far as his passing goes, he is an average passer (nothing fancy), but most importantly he knows to defer his shot to other most of the time. Too often you see a player make a move (i.e. Tony Allen, others) when there’s better options. Scal is a solid passer that limits his mistakes.

by TomHamilton30 on Oct 13, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Scal, and think he can help out against particular matchups. He’s relatively versatile, which is a nice characteristic for an end-of-bench player. His corner 3 isn’t deadly but it’s respectable, you can’t leave him alone out there.

With that said, barring a serious injury (knock on wood) he’s not going to get the minutes this year for a breakout season. I think he’ll end up fighting Landlord for a few scraps of minutes, Landlord’s a better rebounder and the guy you’d put in against a more traditional center, but he can’t spread the floor like Scal.

It’s also virtually inevitable that if there IS a trade to be done, he’ll be included.

But, the overarching lesson of the Scalabrine Era is that… you do not give role players five-year contracts! I tend to think that Danny has internalized this, which may be part of why he hesitated to match the Posey offer and maybe why he didn’t pull the trigger on a Nochioni deal. Signing Scalabrine has not done one iota to hamper this team’s ability to sign other players, but despite the public pleas of “we love Scal,” I’m sure there were plenty of times that DA regretting the signing.

Not today, though. Hell, I hope they can re-sign the big lug next year!

by theBird on Oct 13, 2009 8:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Great points

I like how you brought up Posey and Nocioni…I’m sure in some way Danny did indeed learn a lesson with this one. And now that Scal’s made his money, he’ll probably be set to make veteran’s minimum money for the rest of his career, so if this season works out and we want him back, it won’t be costing us much at all.

by Greg Payne on Oct 13, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Contracts for Role Players
you do not give role players five-year contracts!

Even though letting Posey walk really hurt our depth and chances at Banner 18, Posey’s play declined noticeably with the Hornets this past season. In other words, I agree that Ainge must have learned his lesson because withholding a longer contract for Posey was an excellent business decision in the long term.

by BleedinGreen417 on Oct 13, 2009 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes....

I agree with that comment very much.

by fordescort on Oct 13, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do you find talent of greater significance than usefulness or productivity?

Or are you using them synonymously?

-sw

Growing up in the Weinman household, you learn two rules very quickly if you aspire to reach double-digits in the years-of-age category: Hate thy Knick, hate thy Yankee.

Go Celtics, Go Dodgers. -sw

by Steve Weinman on Oct 13, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are you talking about acne here?

I have all of his wideos. I will be trying out for the Celtics next year because I learned so much from the wideos

by johnnymost on Oct 13, 2009 9:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Scalabrine has limited talent and should be traded

I am not knocking him but that is the truth.

Scal is decent out side shooter and defender and a very hard worker, but thats all he brings to the court.

He is a poor rebounder, non low post scoring threat and and poor low post defender.
Scal also does not offer the Celtics much on the court since he is to ineffective to play a big man position and to slow to play a small man position

His only current worth to the team would be to be traded to another team who would want his valuable expiring contract for another player we need to help remedy a team weakness.

What would be more valuable to have Scal on the roster or to possibly try and trade him for either a strong defending back up forward who can guard Lebron for us in the playoffs or trade him for a back up legit 7 ft. center who can be insurance for us in the event Perk, Rasheed or Garnett get injured this year?

I think the answer is quite clear that trading Scal is better overall for the Celtics chances of winning a title than not trading him.

by fordescort on Oct 13, 2009 9:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Disagree. Scal’s not a GREAT defensive player, but he’s a solidly above-average team defender. You never see him make a flashy play, but he does a respectable job keeping his man in front of him and funnelling him towards the help defender.

Sure, he’s a medicore rebounder, but that’s why he’s a situational player.

Lack of inside game, meh… how many big men today CAN play inside? He’s more valuable spreading the floor anyway. He’s a lot better than he was a few years ago at taking GOOD shots and not taking bad ones.

Can’t have everything. If we DO trade Scal, we’re not going to get back someone who can shoot AND play decent defense AND rebound AND play inside. In the right deal, Scal packs his bags, but it’s stupid to trade him JUST to trade him.

by theBird on Oct 13, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Disagree

Ford escort is right.

Scal is not a talented player or a player this team needs.

We do not need a forward to shoot as we have Pierce, Daniels, Garnett and Rasheed.

The point here is what does Scal offer us?

The answer is not much other than some Defense and a average ouside shot.

Nobody is saying trade Scal just for the sake of trading him, thats silly.

But as fordescort mentions and I agree with would the C’s be better off trading Scal to fill in a team weakness like either for a strong small forward who can defend a Lebron or a back up legit center in case Perk or Rasheed gets hurt (because we would then have no legit back up center on the bench)?

Its a no brainer, of course it would be better to trade Scal.

The goal is to try to improve the team to help us win a championship and trading Scal’s expiring contract (TA’s also) in order to obtain a better player is a way to accomplish this goal.

by leothetiger on Oct 13, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why are botth you (leo and ford)

obsessed with getting a backup center? We have KG, Perkins, Rasheed, Glen, and Shelden as our bigs. Oh, and that doesn’t even include Scal, assuming he plays the 4. I don’t want Scal traded for any backup center, especially if you can’t even name this backup center. At least Scal for his position as a role, no matter how minimal. Who are we even going to trade straight up for a backup big BETTER than Scal?

by Tai on Oct 13, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will tell you why .....

We have only 2 legit centers on the team Rasheed and Perk.

Garnett is a power forward and has no bulk to be a center.

Glenn Davis Williams are power forwards and are not centers period.

They are to short to effectively, defend, rebound and score against opposing legit centers.

Scal has the same problem but is also to weak physically be considered a center.

Now the reason we need another legit back up center on the bench is because if a injury occurs to either Perk (who has a bad shoulder) or Rasheed (due to age) then we will not have a legit center on the bench and will be cooked heading into the playoffs.

Do you want to go into the playoffs like we did last year with no true center coming off the bench and instead want to depend on undersized 6’9" Davis, Williams and Scal being our spot duty backup centers???

I sure do not do not want to take that risk because it will spell defeat just like it did last year when we were rotating undersized Baby annd Powe as our backup centers off the bench.

Id rather trade Scal for a low cost, rebounding, defensive legit 7ft back up center like a Scott Pollad, PJ Brown who would have muscle, height, length and who could rebound, defend the post and alter shots in the middle against opposing centers.

That would give the Celtics extra legit center insurance if injury to Perk or Rasheed takes place and will help give the Celtics a better shot at winning a title this year.

by leothetiger on Oct 13, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not for the first time in this thread, I wonder,

what prompts the claim about Scal’s defense?

-sw

Growing up in the Weinman household, you learn two rules very quickly if you aspire to reach double-digits in the years-of-age category: Hate thy Knick, hate thy Yankee.

Go Celtics, Go Dodgers. -sw

by Steve Weinman on Oct 13, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

So I checked the Calender Today...

And April fools is a long ways away.

Scalabrine is what he always will be. The new team will not help him have a breakout season, he will be buried on the bench much like he was when we won in ’08. My only real recolection actually of him that year was talking trash to the media in a postgame interview during the finals…

Everyone commenting here seems to always pull the stale card about his hustle. However, in reality i don’t see one lazy player in a Celtics that doen’t bust his butt. What sets Scalabrine apart in that aspect, really though?? Because he is the epitome of a scrub that tries, & a good game for him isn’t messing up too much to cost a game?? Come on people smarten up and put the kool-aid down, its nauseating.

As overpaid as he is, every year Scals looks out of shape. I can literally smell the beer sweat through my TV when the camera man pans on him. Maybe i would have been more optimistic had he lost some weight right when Danny decided to pay him 15million. Maybe even after year 2 sigh

His positives do not outweigh his many negatives imo. Nothing more than an expiring contract, or trade filler. If only other GM’S were as positive as the author…

by truthhurts34 on Oct 13, 2009 10:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Great point...

I agree with your comments fully.

by leothetiger on Oct 13, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

I’m amazed at all the negativity coming from the fans. Maybe that was what Jeff was really talking about yesterday in his article.

Nevertheless, great article Greg. Scal is a throwback player. He knows how to play a team game. I don’t expect him to have a break-out year, but I do expect him to be the guy who fills whatever roles Doc has for him. And he’ll do that effectively, maybe not filling out a stat sheet, but allowing his teammates to be better players. And in return, the team will be better.

Great job.

by amenhotep04 on Oct 13, 2009 10:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks amenhotep04

Like I said…“Breakout” is probably to strong a term for Scal’s season. Perhaps “more productive” better suits him. I honestly believe he’ll just come in, hit a few shots, do some dirty work and play an active role in the unit. That’s all we can really ask from him.

by Greg Payne on Oct 13, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Scal's a Keeper

I really like Scalabrine for this Boston Team. He played very well within his role last year when he was plugged into the lineups for our various injuries—-and then he himself got injured and it through off his game.

It looked to me that he was finding a good groove last year and then he went through the concussion period.

He is not the greatest defender, but he slowed down Rashard Lewis at times in the playoffs last year (remember the block he had against him?) Rashard Lewis is a tough defend for anyone.

He has always played within his role and he looks to be in better shape this year, too.

I wish him the best this year (stay concussion-free, Scal!). Scal brings more to the table for the C’s than he is given credit for sometimes.

by Celtics18and19 on Oct 13, 2009 10:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Very Good Article

I like the long look back at Scal.

If I’m being honest, when I first saw Scal play for the Cs I thought, “What is this guy doing playing basketball?”
That was when he was with the young group so aptly described in Greg’s piece, and trying to overcompensate for their vast weaknesses.

I actually thought that last season should be viewed as his break out or break -in year. You could see the positive results when he was on the floor – often.

The idea of a vet team is right, IMO. And finding his niche took time and encouragement from Doc for him to become the spot up three point shooter he has become, as mentioned in a beat writer’s article recently.

His defense can be quite good against certain players and for limited minutes. It is when he is on the floor for extended minutes that some of his deficiencies can become more noticeable/exploitable.

I remember his defense getting under Garnett’s skin one game when he was still in Minnesota.

But his value extends beyond the court to the locker room in many ways. There is no one who exhibits the ‘team first’ concept better than Brian Scalabrine. He is worth a vet minimum contract for that alone.

I’m not sure I see him as a head coach some day, but certainly a front office guy could easily be in his future, IMHO.

Nice job, Greg.

by Tom Halzack on Oct 13, 2009 10:44 AM EDT reply actions  

So will Adonal Foyle

;-)

Keep pumpin, ain't worried bout nuttin
Busters thought we was frontin, so reload and keep dumpin
Keep Sleeping on Orlando...

by BS Patrol on Oct 13, 2009 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Contract Year

I believe he’s in a contract year, since the last year of his deal was reportedly a team option. Scalabrine would be better off being traded to a team where he could be a regular rotation player. In Boston that will not happen.

by Brickowski on Oct 13, 2009 11:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Well, he’s in a contract year because he’s already played four seasons of his five-year deal. No team options that I’m aware of, just a straight five-year contract. Doesn’t seem like it’s already been four years, though.

And, I wholeheartedly disagree that Scal ought to go to a team where he’d have a bigger role – that’s where all the hate towards Scal arises from, when he was forced/expected to do more than he was capable of. Here, he can play five minutes, give some fouls, plays some D, hit a shot on occassion and spead the floor. That’s all he needs to do, and he can do all of that.

Put him somewhere where he’s asked to start or to be the sixth man, he’s going to be asked to do a lot more things that he’s not really capable of; his flaws as a rebounder would be much more apparent, he’d be taking more shots that he shouldn’t take, etc.

Face it, peeps, if we didn’t have Scalabrine on the roster, we’d have dozens of threads looking to trade for someone with his exact skillset (I can see the “Tony Allen for Scalabrine?” threads overrunning the servers now…)

by theBird on Oct 13, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Wow

Easy rec. If Scal wasn’t on this team, he’d probably be one of those players people would want in a trade. And I Don’t wanna hear people say “oh I wouldn’t” when I myself am seeing so many players pop up in trade rumors whose names I grimace.

by Tai on Oct 13, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

no question Scal fills a need but his signing was still a mistake and the $5M we pay him each year could have been used to sign James Posey or other good players. He also is a timebomb as far as getting another concussion so any plan that relies on Veal is flawed IMO just as it was flawed last year to think Tony Allen could replace Posey. I don’t mind Scal where he is now but honestly I’d rather have had Jamario Moon.Matt Barnes or Jason Kapono as our back up small forward

by Red2 on Oct 13, 2009 11:18 AM EDT reply actions  

$15m / 5 years = $3M per.

I don’t see any “plan” that relies on Scal. He’s our 10th or 11th man (depending on how Landlord plays).

by theBird on Oct 13, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, actually Scalabrine will be anywhere between 9th and 11th, depending on how Tony Allen and Lester Hudson play. I don’t think the Lanlord enters the equation here at all.

by kozlodoev on Oct 13, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hate arguing essentially semantics, but there are four players on the bench that I would bet a LOT of money play more minutes than Scal (barring injuries)

Sheed
Daniels
House
BBD

That puts Scalm best-case, as #10. Landlord’s probably behind him but I don’t think that’s locked in, they’re both big men that are competing for many of the same minutes (Scal’s much more of a 4 than a 3).

I don’t see the remaining wings getting more PT that Scal. IF Hudson can play the point, MAYBE he slips into the #10 spot. TA, I doubt sees the court much. Giddens is in Maine, Walker’s injured and behind the 8 ball.

So, I’ll modify to say that Scal is somewhere between #10 and #13, depending on how the wings and Landlord play. No way is he #9.

by theBird on Oct 13, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both right

Scal is a legit option at SF on this team, because they have good guard depth they will play some three guard lineups and use Scal when a big SF is a better option. I think his minutes will depend on how healthy KG and Garnett are (and to a certain extent KP) more than the “landlord’s” playing.

At SF he could be beat out by TA, Walker, or Giddens – but because he offers some flexibility in how rotations run, I think he’s likely to see minutes. There are enough big SF in the league that Scal will be a tempting option for Doc.

by Brendan on Oct 13, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Five minutes” should have been “five or ten minutes”

by theBird on Oct 13, 2009 11:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Concussions

Only thing that worries me is if he suffers another concussion. Hate to be paranoid but was he a target last year?

He could have some serious health issues in the future:

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5377319n&tag=cbsnewsMainColumnArea.5

by Staubach on Oct 13, 2009 11:32 AM EDT reply actions  

I heard about this video

Thanks for the link, Staubach. I plan on watching that later.

by Greg Payne on Oct 13, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

SF

It will be interesting to see how Scal does at the SF position. He is a smart player. Logic would suggest he gets beat easily. But smart defensive players know their weaknesses. I don’t think his competition is TA, Walker, Williams, or Giddens. Its how well the team plays with Hudson. (Daniels moving to SF)

by Bozo on Oct 13, 2009 11:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Daniels doesn’t need to move to “SF”. The second unit is going to be either House/Daniels/Pierce, or House/Ray Allen/Daniels. Wings are wings. House defends the point, Daniels plays one of the wing spots, and they leave one of the starters in there (unless Doc goes back to those asinine hockey-line rotations). No reason for either Ray, Paul, or maybe Rondo (against smaller lineups) to not be on the floor at all times.

by theBird on Oct 13, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Danny gave Scal such a long, high paying contrct (5 years for $3M a year) because he was having real trouble getting any free agents to come to Boston at the time and he desperately wanted to add some veteran presence to what was a very young and immature team. Remember that Scal was signed during the summer following the playoff series against Indiana.

Also, I believe that Tony Allen and E. House receive the same annual salary. While Scal does not contribute what E. House does, he has earned the salary more than T. Allen. Obviously doesn’t change that he is over paid, but there are players that are over paid much worse.

by GJPBoston on Oct 13, 2009 1:01 PM EDT reply actions  

After last game...

Scal must be worried. With Hudson injected into the second team with rotation minutes they were playing amazing. I’d rather put my money on Hudson having a “yeah that’s right I’m a first round player” year than Scal having a breakout year. Here’s sarcastically hoping that Hudson doesn’t explode with a 20pt game and push Scal out.

by stevenfuzz on Oct 13, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Scal

will eventually have an outbreak.

by thereallargejames on Oct 13, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I can't help it

You mean an outbreak of gingervitis.

by stevenfuzz on Oct 13, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Every team could use a Scal

Every team could use a Scal type player for the right price,if its only for insurance purposes mainly.In case a starter breaks down before the season is done,or to play in garbage time.Scal raising his game this season isn’t something i think will happen,but he is/has been a steady contrbutor to the Celtics for awhile.He is almost like,“in case of emergency,break glass” kind of a player.

by house_call on Oct 13, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

To quote Greg Payne

Mark Hamill was never meant to act in a movie without the words “Star” and “Wars” in the title. (which is a great line – yours?)

To Quote Master Po….never sign a guy for 5 years who has never enters a room with the words “Weight Room” on them.

Is it Soup Yet?

by Master Po on Oct 13, 2009 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, that Star Wars line was mine

And haha yeah…I agree Scal doesn’t look like the prototypical professional athlete.

by Greg Payne on Oct 13, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great Post, Greg Payne

A perfect summation of Scal. Those of us that have stuck up for him over the years have never hit the nail on the head as you did. He is a well suited bench player on a championship team. Can give you a little home run ball, a little defense, a good, selfless pick, few brainless errors, (not a lot of rebounds, I’ll concede that point), no ego problems, and let’s not forget (oh yee few Republicans) he didn’t vote for Barack Obama.

I only saw the first two preseason games but anyone who thinks Sheldon Williams has more to offer than Scal is blind.

by Wildblu1 on Oct 13, 2009 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Scal and 'Sheed on D
And if all else fails down low, Wallace should be lying in the weeds with an extra serving of help defense.

This comment jumped out on me because one of the more notable things for me in the NJ game the other day was watching Scal and Sheed play team defense together. A couple of times they totally caged Harrington and seemed to to really understand what the other was doing.

Scal is not a ‘great’ defender by any stretch, but he has sound fundamentals and perhaps most importantly he stays aware of his team defense so that if he’s going to get beat, he usually makes sure he gets beat on the help side. Scal’s biggest weakness on defense is probably that he gets slap happy trying to compensate for lack of lateral speed, but generally he is a plus asset on defense.

Offensively his game is more obvious – set picks and roll to the corner for the three. He does this very well as his 3-point shot has developed into a fairly reliable tool.

I would love if they could trade him and get good value, but I have a hard time believing they could get better value out of a trade than he already provides for them as a roll player. At most they get a cheap, similarly-talented body that is making less so they clear up what? A million or two? And what, exactly would they be doing with that money? And they’d now have a similarly-talented body that doesn’t know the Celtic’s systems as well.

Alternatively they trade Scal for a higher-priced commodity – how will they afford that?

I think at this point, Scal has more value to the C’s than we would ever get for him in a trade.

TA, on the other hand, has little remaining value to the Cs from what I can tell, yet his pure athleticism and relative youth probably means he has some value to other teams. If we get anything for him, it would probably be a gain, even if its just a future 5th round pick.

by mmmmm on Oct 13, 2009 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

oops, i was referring actually to Scal & Sheed’s play in the ‘NY’ game.

by mmmmm on Oct 13, 2009 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Loved the Mark Hamill quote...

“Brian Scalabrine was never meant to play with young, promising talent, like the way Mark Hamill was never meant to act in a movie without the words “Star” and “Wars” in the title."

"I don’t think in the past. I don’t think in the future. You grasp the moment." -KG

by SotaPop on Oct 13, 2009 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

well ...

everyone in the nba is overpaid so … im pretty sure scal could smoke probably 99 % of the people here trying to say he s good at this or not good at that so… say it to his face

by MR. CAFETERIA on Oct 13, 2009 6:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Great team player

Scal’s contract cost us Posey. Like most i wanted Scal and TA gone. But if you have ever been on a really good team the idea starts to sink in that Scal would be better for this team if he played out the rest of the year. A world beater he’s not but he does give a good account of himself when called on to play. If we get good value for him then trade him but I would rather he play out the season. If you look at it he’s just as valuable as Eddie House. Scal plays better D than House.

by tyquinton on Oct 14, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions  

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