Celtics Stuff Live 10/18: Jessica Camerato
Following the Celtics victory over the Raptors in Toronto, Celtics Stuff Live rocked it out on a snowy October Sunday night as the piece begin to fall into place for the C's. Jessica Camerato of WEEI.com returned to the CSL airwaves to recount her interesting conversation with Ray Allen and his prospective jump into the world of politics. Jon and Justin talked with Jess about Scott Souza's column on Lester Hudson, Big Baby's maturity in the off season, and KG's leap to being a close facsimile of his old self from the near cripple he was described as being by some in the national media.
Feel free to hit up our guest, Jessica Camerato, or Jon and Justin on Twitter, and we'll see you Wednesday night for our live postgame show.
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i don’t want to get political on this blog, but your quote from ray about doc says it all- it has gotten to the point of people wishing bad things for our president and cheering when chicago doesn’t get the olympics. very sad. not all of it , some of it tho, is racial and ray and doc know about that.
by nazzbo on Oct 18, 2009 12:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sorry i disagree.
if we’re going to use Doc as an example, that’s like giving him COY for 07-08 based on training camp, preseason, and the first 10 games of the season. He hasn’t done anything with the team yet, and no one knows how they’re going to turn out after only 10 games. I’d be embarrassed if that happened to Doc, even though I only cheer for his team. It’s just unwarranted and puts unnecessary pressure on the guy.
by scurvmeister on Oct 18, 2009 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Gotten to the point?
Where were you for the last 8 years? When the novel was written on Bush’s assassination, when pictures were circulated with a gun pointed at his head, when he was called Hitler while Obama was still in IL voting present. When it was called patriotic to voice dissent with the president’s policies.
Opposing the politics of the president is nothing new, what is new is characterizing any disagreement as playing for another team. Doc and Ray will cheer and support Obama no matter what he says or does, as is their right. But it is equally the right of those who think otherwise to state that opinion, not be shamed into blindly supporting their “coach”.
by KJ33 on Oct 18, 2009 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"What is new is characterizing any disagreement as playing for another team."
Really?
How new is that?
During the last administration, anyone who had a problem with the invasion of Iraq and questioned whether there was any connection between Iraq and Osama, and whether Iraq had WMDs, got called un-American. And during the last campaign, we had the Republican ticket’s infamous declaration that some Americans aren’t “real” Americans.
I actually agree that Obama should not have won the Nobel Peace Prize before doing anything other than get himself elected. And while I usually agree with Ray and Doc when they make political comments, I don’t this time.
But what they’re doing is hardly new.
by Hila on Oct 18, 2009 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry to make my first post so negative.
I’ve been reading the blog for a bit now maybe three or four months and this is the first time I really thought I HAD to comment on something.
I lost a little respect for Ray Allen, He was obviously taking a shot at right wing americans that don’t agree with obama’s policies. It was a devisive comment that pisses me off, Where was the left and their unity, during difficult decisions the past regime had to make? Why is it now so important for us all to be “on the same team”? Ray, that was an ignorant devisive comment. I’m not happy that our President won an award, that he didn’t earn, and i shouldn’t be happy simply because he’s on team america…. Athletics and politics don’t mix…. Ray, please just play basketball.
And to imply any kind of racial undertones is plain stupid. maybe a very small percentage of americans have a problem with the color of his skin, but I’d guess the vast majority of of people have an issue with his poor economic strategies, and his defecit spending.
by callmesir on Oct 18, 2009 1:15 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
It's often painful to hear athletes try to talk politics.
And it’s apparently beyond Ray Ray’s understanding that those who believe Obama is a global socialist being rewarded ‘in advance’ by global socialists encouraging him to hasten the pace at which he is bringing down the US’s economy, sovereignty, strength and foundational principles aren’t being bad team players for not supporting the coach. Sheesh!
by clover on Oct 18, 2009 1:20 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Just one small difference ...
The NBA would never give out POSTseason awards after a handful of games. I enjoying watching Ray-Ray, and I like Doc, but let’s get with the program … just because you share skin color with O doesn’t mean you have to always agree with or defend him. He clearly didn’t deserve this award.
by rocknrollforyoursoul on Oct 18, 2009 1:43 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Unfortunate
Clover, rocknroll, KJ33, Callmesir, etc., absolutely right that it’s unfortunate a lot of times when athletes start opining about politics. Obviously there is something disturbing about the notion that all Americans need to be “on the same team” and support the President regardless of his policies. Dissent used to be patriotic, when it was the left dissenting from Bush’s national defense decisions — but now when ordinary americans object to massive expansion of government control over the economy, nationalization of the auto industry and health care industry, throwing our allies like Poland, Israel and Honduras under the bus while appeasing Iran and Russia and trying to be best buds with Hugo Chavez, to dissent from these policies is akin to treason, being “not on the same team.” How disloyal to suggest Obama didn’t deserve the Nobel prize for peace — after all, just look at all the oppressive dictators and fundamentalist regimes he overthrew so that people could hold free elections…oh wait, that wasn’t him, but give him the prize anyway, he gives nice speeches about peace.
That being said, I disagree with Ray Allen’s statement here of course, but I didn’t lose any respect for him, I just wish athletes would not get into talking about politics. He’s a basketball player and a smart guy, he doesn’t spend his whole day thinking about politics, and I think Ray is a great guy and his heart is in the right place, he’s just not an expert on politics, I won’t hold that against him. No big deal. Having the first black president is a huge deal to a lot of people, and a lot of people have an emotional connection to Obama that isn’t really based on what his policies are. I can totally relate to that, so I won’t hold that against someone who isn’t a professional pundit, just a normal guy.
by dooyork on Oct 18, 2009 6:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
athletes are citizens, just like us...
They can say whatever they want about politics. Whether I agree with him or not, I’m glad he has interests outside of basketball…
by Pengaloo on Oct 18, 2009 8:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t have a problem that Ray felt comfortable to speak to his opinions on politics when asked. So often we have a hard time getting answers from athletes to our questions, and Ray happens to be one that is willing to answer just about any question thrown at him. I also don’t have a problem when athletes speak to their opinions on politics, just as I wouldn’t begrudge any American for that, even if I were to disagree with what they said. Curt Schilling comes to mind as someone who used his position to present political opinion in a similar manner. However, if political retort became the norm from Ray instead of discussions centered around basketball (at least as long as he is playing professionally) then it would be irritating. But, having interviewed Ray in the past myself, he is definitely someone with the aptitude and intelligence for politics if he did choose to take on such a headache upon retiring from basketball.
I actually liked Doc’s comments (paraphrased by Ray) about the team aspect. Not so much for the comparison to the current state of affairs in this country, but as representation of his views on the team concept in general. It is clear to me that Doc has always understood how to develop positive team dynamics successfully.
by Jughead on Oct 18, 2009 8:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's not Obama, it's the Democratic Party
The things I don’t like that Obama has done, would have also been done by Hillary or any other Democrat who had gained the power. Its a Party philosophy, not a individual one.
Since all politicians are prostitutes, Demo or Repub. they will play any card they can to do one thing: Get re-elected.
by Dipper on Oct 18, 2009 9:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How can you get upset over the Nobel Peace Prize?
The prize itself is a joke.
Al Gore won it for making a PowerPoint presentation.
Henry Kissinger (war criminal) and Le Duc Tho (representative of a brutal totalitarian regime) got it for signing a peace deal that didn’t end the war!
Leaders of an apartheid state (Rabin and Peres) shared it with the terrorist trying to bring down that state (Arafat), with no peace in the Middle East anywhere in sight.
Now Obama, commander-in-chief, gets it while talking about expanding the war in Afghanistan. This is Orwellian, war-is-peace territory here.
So I don’t understand why anyone would be upset about something so meaningless. I just look at it like some charity just got a million dollar donation.
by Black Bird on Oct 18, 2009 9:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Blackbird, agree the prize is a joke, disagree with pretty much everything else you say except that Israel is an apartheid state and that Arafat was a terrorist. The reason Obama doesn’t deserve it is because he’s too bellicose?
I’m sure we all agree, we all love Ray and Doc, they’re entitled to their opinions, and that doesn’t take away from our love of the team at all.
by dooyork on Oct 18, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correction: meant to say disagree with everything except that Arafat was a terrorist and that Gore didn’t deserve the prize because he just gave a power point presentation.
by dooyork on Oct 18, 2009 12:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't wanna sound like I'm slamming any of you
cause I’m not an expert on politics, and if someone asked me how I thought Obama has done, I wouldn’t be sure. : \
But….what exactly has Obama been doing apart from being awarded a Nobel Peace Prize prematurely to get your disapproval? And….are you Republican?
by Tai on Oct 18, 2009 12:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Me, I'm highly political.
But I like to get away from it at Celticsblog. I’m more than happy to ignore Allen’s comments, since Miss Camareto asked him about it (quite needlessly). And for that matter, I’m not sure why Jughead thought to bring the matter up here either.
As for anyone who thinks one could only be motivated to disagree with Obama’s politics because of his color… well, what’s to be said? Perhaps they also think Sheldon Williams should be the backup point guard.
by no kidding on Oct 18, 2009 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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