Quick BBD Update: Surgery Confirmed, Out 6 Weeks
On a day that should really be focused on the first game of the season the main storyline instead appears to be Glen Davis' hand. Note the latest updates will appear at the top as this story still seems rather fluid.
Update - The Celtics just put out the following press release:
BOSTON - The Boston Celtics announced today that forward Glen Davis underwent successful surgery to reduce and fix a right thumb fracture. The surgery was performed by Celtics Team Physician, Dr. Brian McKeon and was assisted by Dr. Hervey Kimball and Dr. Drew Terrono at New England Baptist Hospital. Davis is expected to miss the next six weeks.
"I would first like to apologize to my fans, teammates, coaches and the entire Celtics organization. I am extremely disappointed that this incident occurred and that it will prevent me from starting the season with the rest of my teammates. My teammates and the entire Celtics organization are extremely important to me and I will do my best to expedite the healing process and be back on the court as soon as possible," said Davis.
The Herald has details of the altercation:
According to the police report obtained by the Herald, Davis claimed his allegedly drunken childhood pal was "continually bothering his girlfriend," Jenna Gomez. . . . "It was two guys that had a fight over something that was said to a girlfriend," Waltham Detective Capt. William Stanton said. "They assured us there would be no more problems."
Marc Spears reports further on the altercation, and BBD's status:
Boston Celtics forward Glen Davis told Yahoo! Sports on Tuesday that he will be sidelined six to eight weeks after breaking his right thumb while trying to protect himself from a friend who slugged him.
Earlier updates follow after the jump
"Glen "Big Baby" Davis update: He is having surgery today to determine the extent of the injury. It is to his right (shooting hand) thumb"
Meanwhile, Gary Washburn reported that BBD is likely to be out "3-4 months . . . but not the season"
With Brian Scalabrine out following his freak cameraman incident in New York, it would seem that Shelden Williams will get BBD's minutes until Scal is back practicing his intangibles for the Celts. Shelden averaged 4 points and 3 boards in 12 minutes of pre-season action, with a 7 point and 8 board effort in 33 minutes of playing time against the Cavs last week.
Wyc talks suspension for Baby Glen:
In the wake of a thumb injury sustained during a recent altercation, Celtics forward Glen "Big Baby" Davis likely will be suspended by the team, owner Wyc Grousbeck confirmed to the Globe this morning.
Grousbeck initially reported that a suspension was "very likely" during an interview with Gene Lavanchy on the Fox 25 morning show.
"I've had enough of 'Big Baby,' so I'm going to start calling him Glen," Grousbeck told the Globe. "It certainly seems like there's going to be a suspension here."
He doesn't sound very happy.
Our very own Author, Master Po (who will also pen tonight's game recap) has the quote of the day in the comments:
Song of the Day by Biz Markie (slight remix on the chorus)
Baby You, you had what we need but you got punched on by a friend
Now you say your fat thumb won't bend, oh baby please
You, you had what we need but now Wyc will reach out and suspend
How long you gonna be on the mend, oh baby pleeeeeease
You, you had what we need but you know
now you'll never win............ oh baby please.........
The Globe has the following report this am:
Another league source confirmed the injury will require surgery and will keep Davis out indefinitely.
Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge said yesterday he "would not confirm or deny'' reports surrounding the injury.
Davis missed practice yesterday at the team's facility in Waltham, Mass., and did not travel to Cleveland for tonight's season opener against the Cavaliers.
"I am not making a public statement until we have all of the facts relative to the injury,'' Ainge said. "We sent him for a scan and further tests.
"It looks like he's going to be out for a while.''
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C’mon C’s. The season hasn’t even started yet and we’ve already got guys lining up on the injured list.
by BOSPORTS on Oct 27, 2009 9:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what a dope.Athletes never fail to disappoint me with their stupidity. They get paid tons of money and are treated like kings and yet they still manage to do some of the dumbest things possible. WHy would you get into a fight with your" buddy" 2 days before the season opener? Why would you even invite a jerk like that to stay with you? Oh well, it’s nothing new to sports fans but it’s still disappointing. Here’s hoping SHelden plays well and takes advantage of the opportunity. I like Baby but he let us down.
by Red2 on Oct 27, 2009 9:35 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yep.
Sometimes it seems this team divided into two groups older vets and immature kids. This, coupled with the news about Rondo’s contract negotiations really speaks to an arrested development in young NBA players. I don’t think this is necessarily a rare thing either, sadly. Thank god for Perk, who is showing maturity beyond his age.
Still psyched about the season though — GO CELTS!!!
by Hal Jordan on Oct 27, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that divide is not imaginary
Other than Williams, TA & ’Quis sitting in the middle (26-28), the team is bipolar with six guys at 31+ and seven guys at 25 or younger!
by mmmmm on Oct 27, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a fool
What else is there to say.
Best of luck to Williams. Maybe he’ll surprise me as I wasn’t that impressed in the pre-season.
How long is Scal out?
by Wildblu1 on Oct 27, 2009 9:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He must have done something else..
Because Wyc sounds really pissed. I’d be curious to find out what else BBD has done to irritate Wyc, b/c I can’t imagine he’d make those quotes off of just this one incident.
by TomHamilton30 on Oct 27, 2009 10:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Um...
He just gave him a new contract, and now the guy isn’t playing for a while. I’d be at least this angry…
by funkstarrdeluxe on Oct 27, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we should all start calling him Glen from now on
This is now the third incident with him.
1. Car accident on the way to game. Result concussion.
2. Playing a football game with fans during 2008 ECF’s
3. Fighting with ex teammate broken thumb
He needs to make better decisions.
by Steal by Bird on Oct 27, 2009 10:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think I'm too married to the self-amusing value of "Infuriated Infant"
to entirely move away from youngster-related nicknames. :-D
Nasty Newborn! Pugnacious Papoose! Terrifying Toddler!
Emphasis on the “pugnacious” this time, unfortunately.
-sw
Growing up in the Weinman household, you learn two rules very quickly if you aspire to reach double-digits in the years-of-age category: Hate thy Knick, hate thy Yankee.
Go Celtics, Go Dodgers. -sw
by Steve Weinman on Oct 27, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pugnacious Papoose would have won it...
… if it weren’t for Infuriated Infant, which has been tickling my funny bone just a tad worse.
They make me feel ashamed for reading them, that’s how good they are, Steve :]
- Dirk 'DaarisDirk' van Boxtel
by Kiorrik on Oct 27, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, Dirk
And yup, if you don’t think I immediately sent out an email to several friends yesterday with subject line “Infant a tad too infuriated,” you’re kidding yourself.
-sw
Growing up in the Weinman household, you learn two rules very quickly if you aspire to reach double-digits in the years-of-age category: Hate thy Knick, hate thy Yankee.
Go Celtics, Go Dodgers. -sw
by Steve Weinman on Oct 27, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Always nice to see you coment, Steve!
How about about the Witless Whipersnapper?
by Hal Jordan on Oct 27, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Infuriating Infant"
seems more apropo at the moment.
by mmmmm on Oct 27, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would be all for trading Glen now.
we signed him on the cheap maybe we can package him with SCAL or TA
and get somebody who is mature. I can’t believe this guy let this happen, shows you where his head is at.
by Steal by Bird on Oct 27, 2009 10:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Value’s about as low as it gets right now, and I don’t think we can trade him anyway for a few months. Someone smarter than me can confirm, but I want to say that he can’t be traded until December or so.
There’s a lot more to this story than we know; ownership hasn’t really been known for calling out the players like this.
Sheldon will be fine, he’s not great but he didn’t look that bad to me (particulalrly later in the preaseason).
by theBird on Oct 27, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smart move, Baby...
If the goal is to earn a larger contract, irritating the owner is not the way to do it. I guess Wyc is fed up with the antics, too.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
by Roy_Hobbs on Oct 27, 2009 10:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess Big Baby doesn’t know how to throw a punch…
-Lu Galasso
by Lu Galasso on Oct 27, 2009 10:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Baby should have Known better.
Maybe Ainge should have put a clause in his contract for common sense along with the weight clause!!!!!
by Celtic4lif on Oct 27, 2009 10:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Grousbeck Should Keep His Mouth Shut
A suspension may be warranted, or maybe not, depending on the circumstances. But if this is just a move to save a few bucks (like their refusal to resign Leon Powe), I hope the players’ association files a grievance and wins.
by Brickowski on Oct 27, 2009 10:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wyc is the owner...
If anybody is entitled to gripe about a player acting like an idiot and costing him money, it’s him.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
by Roy_Hobbs on Oct 27, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I fully agree Roy
The Celtics are a business that is paying top dollar for the product they are giving their fans, us. If one of their employees is an idiot and hurts themselves fighting (non-basketball related), and is therefore unable to fulfill their contract, then I think he has EVERY right to not pay him for that duration.
Tell me Brick, what exactly would a player have to do for you as the owner to suspend him w/o pay?
by TomHamilton30 on Oct 27, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with Brick...
Let things settle out and then deal with things in house. If a suspention is warrented, then issue it when needed, but don’t talk about it to the media. Sounds like Davis has been very honest about the situation.
by B-ball on Oct 27, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I don't agree with Brick...
And dealing with things in house IS THE OWNER’S BUSINESS! This Celtics franchise IS his “baby”(no pun intended) so I don’t see anything wrong with calling him out.
When you do something that’s not only stupid but it jeopardizes an owner’s product which takes money out of his pockets(or “their” pockets), it’s only natural to react negatively and say what needs to be said. Even if it’s said through the Media. He’s the owner. He can do whatever the hell he wants. What’s Glen going to do? Ask for a trade? Let’s trade him to Oklahoma, the Clippers, Minny, or some other NON-Playoff team.
by BNTHIS on Oct 27, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s see how he likes going home for the offseason after 82 games year after year after year…..
by BNTHIS on Oct 27, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re upset, and you’re making angry statements. I don’t blame Wyc for being upset, but when you go to the media when you are angry, nothing good can come from it. I wouldn’t mind if they traded Davis at this point, but that is hard thing to do when the owner is on the radio telling everyone how argry he is with the guy. Davis made a mistake, but let’s be real; we really don’t know the details of what happened. He could have been defending himself.
Do you think it was a good idea when DA went to the media and made Rondo seem like an irresponsible punk that nobody likes? That’s great for trade value! What a great idea! Now Rondo and his agent are like “OK, we’ll go where we are wanted, and they’ll pay us what we want.” And they will, by the way.
The issue is not whether or not Wyc has the right to talk to the media. That’s an adolescent argument. The issue is whether or not it is smart.
by B-ball on Oct 27, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why did you repeat your post?
I got it the first time and I replied to it…TWICE!
by BNTHIS on Oct 27, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They pulled it...
I guess you can’t use the word P(eye)ssed-off.
by B-ball on Oct 27, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They did?
I can still see it.
Maybe if I refreshed the page, it would be gone I guess…
But regardless. I’m not the owner and neither are you. The problem now is who the heck do the Celtics get to replace him? Scal?
by BNTHIS on Oct 27, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh and since they pulled your statement, here are my replies in case they pulled them with yours :
So you’re saying Wyc, the OWNER of this franchise, is stupid, right?
I have no doubt he thought about whether or not to make his point known to the media prior to his comments. Whatever he decides to do, it’s his choice to do it. Whether you or me or anyone else thinks it’s wise or unwise makes no difference ’cause he calls all the shots here. Not Big Baby, his agent, or anyone else.
And if Glen and his agent are going to be drama queens about this, then by all means let them go. Our team is good enough to win it all without his apparent stupidity(whether he was defending himself or not isn’t the case. He shouldn’t have put himself in that situation to begin with) and his agent.
by BNTHIS on Oct 27, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think B-Ball is saying Wyc is stupid. He’s questioning whether airing one’s anger out in the media is smart.
Even smart people do stupid things when angry.
I’m not sure why you say “And if Glen and his agent are going to be drama queens about this, …”
Have they (Glen or his agent) done anything to warrant being called out as drama queens? I missed that.
by mmmmm on Oct 27, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also...
It’s not a move to save money, as it costs the team the same amount whether he is or isn’t suspended. Under a suspension, his game checks go to charity, rather than back to Wyc. (Similarly, it costs us the same in luxury tax, etc.)
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
by Roy_Hobbs on Oct 27, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol, what?
How did you bring Powe and money into this? As far as I see, Wyc’s suspending BBD for being an idiot, and I can’t say I disagree. Seriously, if BBD gets injured vs Cleveland, he gets injured vs Cleveland. It would suck all the same, but oh well, at least he got injured on the court.
But getting injured two days before your team’s season opener because you got into a fight with someone YOU invited to visit you at home, and JUST after receiving a new contract this offseason?!
And on top of that, he may be out until mid-December, and who knows when he’ll be into “mid-season form” after that.
Not pleased at all. I won’t drop the nickname like Wyc wants to, but BBD needs to know better.
by Tai on Oct 27, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Give me a break
He signed a contract to render services. If there is any language in there about off court behavior, which there must be assuming Grousbeck isn’t stupid with his comments, then he flat out ought to be forced to give it back up for the time he can’t deliver those services. Who cares if the Celtics put it back in their pocket or give it to charity. It’s about an employee living up to his contract.
Leon Powe is a painful situation. I loved the guy but the Celts, in my opinion, were right. You need to get over it. Leons come and Leons go. Its professional sports and the dollars these guys are paid no longer leave much room for sentiment.
by Wildblu1 on Oct 28, 2009 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No big deal, he's a rotation guy now.
I don’t think there were big minutes planned for Glen. He wants minutes even though he’s playing behind 2 All Star vets and is undersized at PF and C.
I like his game, but I suspect the short term deal was done so Doc would have injury insurance and Danny would have an attractive trade piece if someone he covets becomes available.
by LuckyNumber07 on Oct 27, 2009 10:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Consequences – consequences. Hopefully some lost paychecks will send a message to Davis. Brick may have a point. But if there are no consequences, what’s to stop Davis from doing something like this in the future?
Same can be said for Delonte.
by Finkelskyhook on Oct 27, 2009 10:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Double Standard?
Accidents happen, even stupid ones. Why haven’t they suspended Scalabrine for the catamaran incident? Why is Davis being singled out?
by Brickowski on Oct 27, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
because Davis most likely fought his ex-teammate.
I don’t believe Scal was fighting…
by noro on Oct 27, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Catamaran incident?
Please enlighten me.
I think I’m one of the few people in the blog who sees on-court value in Scalabrine. Hard to weigh in on an incident I know nothing about. I don’t know that there are diciplinary incidents in Scalabrine’s history. But the ones listed for Davis don’t amount to much, either.
Owners are idiots if they don’t put behavioral clauses in their player’s contracts.
I don’t see getting in a fight as an accident.
Pretty strong comments from Wyc.
by Finkelskyhook on Oct 27, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're not the only one
In his limited, and specific role, Scalabrine has definite on-court value. Also, I’ve never heard of the catamaran incident.
To equate a possible everyday occurance to someone fighting is a big stretch.
by TomHamilton30 on Oct 27, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the front page
says “cameraman”, not “catamaran”.
by slamtheking on Oct 27, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thx, I was confused where catamaran incident came from. that’s hilarious.
Captain Scal?
When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"
by Green17 on Oct 27, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finkelskyhook....Delonte has a diagnosed illness (and, presumably, is getting treatment). That is a huge difference.
by thirstyboots18 on Oct 27, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
Nope. Not in my mind.
So Delonte’s “illness” rationalizes his carrying weapons into an airport? I’m not talking about the latest thing….
Pull a few paychecks and see if Delonte’s….And/or Glen’s behavior changes. I bet it does.
These guys are getting paid to work. If their behavior disables them from working, they shouldn’t get paid.
Thirsty, if there are no consequences for these guys, how do you correct the behavior.
Can you say Zach Randolph?
by Finkelskyhook on Oct 27, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa, whoa
Delonte has bipolar disorder – that IS a real illness. As a sufferer of it, I can honestly say that Delonte’s behavior could be a direct result of going off his meds or needing a higher dosage.
Before judging people, perhaps you should educate yourself on what you’re actually talking about. At the very least, look it up on wikipedia.
Don't Trade Rondo or Perk!
by RJ87 on Oct 27, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d sooner look to CNN for accuracy than Wikopedia.
Sorry, I’m not buying the excuse or the “illness”. Delonte and Glen need to act like grownups. They’re getting paid by their employers to. Their teams are diminished as a direct result of their behavior.
Sorry. Players are paid to play. Not carry weapons into airports. Not to get into altercations, fights, or any other kind of childish behavior.
Delonte and Glen are no different than Zach Randolph, Sebastian Telfair, Iverson, Anthony, etc. If their behavior have no consequences, it’s likely to happen again and again.
Respectfully, RJ87, does his “illness” make what Delonte did okay with you?
It doesn’t with me.
by Finkelskyhook on Oct 27, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Delonte's father has said that Delonte that someone one was after him
at the time of that incident. When someone with bi-polar disorder has a manic episode, they can experience of extreme states of paranoia. That coupled with an already increased violent nature due to a manic episode = bad news.
The gun incident was the first serious incident with Delonte, he had no issues like that when he played here. As far as the most recent incident with his wife, the details that have been leaked have only said that he tried to take her wedding ring off so we can’t jump ahead and presume that he’s wife beater.
I don’t condone what he did, but given my familiarity with the mindstate he was in, i can understand what he was dealing with at the time.
The issue with Glen is not nearly the same – the updated report says Glen got into an “altercation” with a drunken friend because he was talking smack to his girlfriend. Glen made the decision to react physically as opposed to putting his friend in a cab and sending home/a hotel room.
Don't Trade Rondo or Perk!
by RJ87 on Oct 27, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
*Correction: Delonte THOUGHT someone was after him.
Don't Trade Rondo or Perk!
by RJ87 on Oct 27, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I base none of my comments on the last incident with Delonte. Domestic stuff can be concocted any number of ways and is rarely what it seems.
Delonte’s lucky he’s not dead taking weapons into an airport. I don’t care what “illness” “affliction” “syndrome” ..real or imagined he allegedly has..He’s lucky he’s not dead, 87. No excuses. He’s just plain lucky. Based on your words, you don’t condone what he did. But you don’t think he should be held accountable, either.
I do.
Same with Davis.
by Finkelskyhook on Oct 28, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Delonte didn't take weapons into an airport
He was stopped on the road and was found with three concealed guns. Not sure where you’re getting the “he took weapons into an airport” thing from.
Not that that’s better, but at least be fully informed before trying to make an argument.
Don't Trade Rondo or Perk!
by RJ87 on Oct 28, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also,
I never said Delonte shouldn’t be held accountable. He did something wrong, and should pay the consequences.
I just don’t believe you should lump in with guys like Telfair and Davis – these guys have a lot more control over their actions. In all honesty, he’s lucky he’s not dead because he’s a far greater threat to himself right now than him being a threat to anyone else. Look up the suicide rates of people with bi-polar disorder – which I’m sure is what on Danny Ferry’s mind right now as much as Delonte playing for them.
But from the sound of it, you seem like you just don’t “believe” in mental illness. That fine and dandy, its easier to not acknowledge these things if you’re uneducated about them.
Don't Trade Rondo or Perk!
by RJ87 on Oct 28, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grow up Glen
The whining in the press about time, the immature way he handled the contract year, maybe some of those quotes about the Ubuntu failures of last year
Stuff going on behind the scenes that Wyc is po’d about
by Staubach on Oct 27, 2009 10:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sweetney coming back
If Glen is out for the season or extended time, does anyone know what if anything the celts can do with his roster spot?
Is this the opening for Sweetney? Does that roster spot open up if Glen is out indefinetly?
Also, when could we trade glen? I know with restricted FA who sign the qualifier, I’m not sure if/when we could trade him.
by Vineet on Oct 27, 2009 10:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There’s no “IR” in basketball. Unless he were to be bought out and waived, his injury does nothing to add a roster spot. Theoretically, this could put some more pressure on the roster’s other flotsam, they might bite the bullet and cut JR (probably not Hudson, although that would be cheaper). That would let them sign another big, although I’m not sure who’s out there that would be able to contribute right now.
Sweetney’s not walking through that doorway (not unless they take the door off the hinges)
by theBird on Oct 27, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In addition to the fact that your last line was brilliant, tB,
I’m some combination of bemused and amused that on the eve of a season in which some are projecting a run at 70 wins, we’re already saying things like “Sweetney’s not walking through that door.”
It would be nice if the Infant could avoid this nonsense. But as I’m sure many here agree, I think we’ll be all right.
-sw
Growing up in the Weinman household, you learn two rules very quickly if you aspire to reach double-digits in the years-of-age category: Hate thy Knick, hate thy Yankee.
Go Celtics, Go Dodgers. -sw
by Steve Weinman on Oct 27, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stupidity
No word describes better what’s happened with Glen Davis than “stupidity”.
by OCsWestCeltic on Oct 27, 2009 10:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shelden can fill the gap,
such as it is. I wish we woulda kept Sweetney. What’s the use of having 3 duplicative guys (TA, Giddens, Medical Bill) at the end of the bench? Better to diversify.
"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark
by Eeyore III on Oct 27, 2009 10:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think they might be calling Sweetney...
If Davis is out for a long time, I think DA would have to think about calling Sweetney. He played pretty well in the preseason. Also, after seeing Shaq toss a lighter Perk around, a heavy Sweetney might be very useful.
by B-ball on Oct 27, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do you break your thumb defending yourself?
by footey on Oct 27, 2009 11:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You don’t. But you can break your thumb if you THROW A PUNCH AT A GUY’S HEAD, though…
hmmmm…..
Of course this is all pure speculation so we don’t have the facts but unless someone held him down and brought a hammer down on his thumb, then it looks like a punch was thrown from Glen’s direction.
by BNTHIS on Oct 27, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
easy
try blocking a punch with an open hand.
I’ve seen fingers and thumbs broken in this way. They get caught on oposing fingers, thumbs, feet, clothing. All kinds of bad things can quickly and easily happen to the little fellers.
That’s why in karate/tae kwan do/etc. classes among the first things they teach white belts about sparring is to KEEP YOUR HANDS CLOSED when in defensive position.
The only time beginners should be opening their hands is when they need to grab something.
by mmmmm on Oct 27, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
while BBD is a better player than LL
Sheldon may be better complement to Sheed in the second unit, since he stays down low more and focuses on rebounding.
by footey on Oct 27, 2009 11:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
At least Powe’s injuries came on the court, trying to help the team win.
You can’t coach maturity and mental makeup, sadly enough.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
by Roy_Hobbs on Oct 27, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I always thought the Leon move would come back to bite us in the rear-end
was just hoping it wouldn’t happen so soon…
Don't Trade Rondo or Perk!
by RJ87 on Oct 27, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how?
Wouldnt signing powe have bitten us in the rear-end more? Not signing leon powe didnt lead to signing davis. It lead to signing williams. If we signed powe we would be without davis, scal, and powe, and therefore be in a much worse situation
by Jimmy Toscano on Oct 27, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course everything is better in hindsight
but now that the Celtics have to wait months for an injured player it would have been much better to wait for Powe to get better.
by IH8URTEAM on Oct 27, 2009 11:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no it wouldn't have been
Please see jimmyt’s post up above.
by mmmmm on Oct 27, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big Baby blows up the spot...
With all the time off he better not get fat again!
by Icepick33 on Oct 27, 2009 11:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sweetney will look thin
compared to Baby when he gets back. But hilarious line from theBird above—door off hinges—LOL.
"People don't understand, if you can't live the rest of your life off one year in the NBA, you can't live off 21." -- Keon Clark
by Eeyore III on Oct 27, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wyc definitely sounds mad
He was giving off a I’m-going-to-rip-down-your-nameplate vibe in that interview.
Wyc’s anger leads me to two hypotheses:
1. Baby was doing something pretty stupid when he broke his thumb.
2. Baby’s going to be out a lot longer than 2 months because the thumb was severely broken and will require extensive surgery.
You only get mad if Baby did something dumb and that dumb thing was so dumb it resulted in a severe injury. 2 months isn’t so bad, especially at the beginning of a season. 3 or more months (or the season, which I still find hard to believe) can make a guy angry, understandably so…
Last, I’ll say that even if it was self-defense, a suspension still makes sense because you have to teach Baby a lesson and hopefully help him mature a bit. Unless severe bodily harm was a-coming, that is. If you’re protecting life and limb, I don’t know how you could suspend somebody for that.
Still waiting to hear the details and the prognosis—until then, my judgment is partially reserved.
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Oct 27, 2009 11:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There’s so much more that we don’t know and probably won’t ever know. Thinking back to all the comments Doc has made about how young the bench was last year; thinking that wasn’t just directed at how they were playing on the court. All the un-ubuntu stuff, I suspect that’s not just aimed at Rondo. I can’t recall Wyc ever sounding this pissed before.
by theBird on Oct 27, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always thought the non-ubuntu comment was about Glen
I was surprised that everyone thought it was about Rondo automatically. Especially given his recent comments on him being worried about going back to the bench…
Don't Trade Rondo or Perk!
by RJ87 on Oct 27, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The level-headed take works for me
Only difference in my thinking with you SaMP is that personally, if the behavior was indeed rather dopey (i.e. gratuitous fisticuffs), I don’t know that I’d need the severe-injury result to be annoyed about it. It’s the behavior then that’s inherently foolish, not just the bad “luck,” so to speak, conferred by the degree of the injury.
That aside, with you. I’ll try to stand back on the judgment until we’ve learned a bit more, though suffice it to say I’m not thrilled at the early reports.
-sw
Growing up in the Weinman household, you learn two rules very quickly if you aspire to reach double-digits in the years-of-age category: Hate thy Knick, hate thy Yankee.
Go Celtics, Go Dodgers. -sw
by Steve Weinman on Oct 27, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Foolish behavior with no consequences...
is always treated differently than foolish behavior w/terrible consequences.
KG punched out teammates and didn’t break his hand, so it wasn’t a big deal and an example of ‘good luck’ (except for the guys that took the punch).
When Baby was playing touch football with kids in Det. during the 08’ playoffs, that was foolish behavior, but because nothing happened it wasn’t a big deal and just another story of his goofiness. But what if he had broke a leg, or torn an ACL? Different story altogether.
The narrative is defined by the final act. At this point, there’s a lot to be angry with..but if the final act is modified and Baby takes this incident and grows from it…then the narrative changes and everything is forgiven…
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Oct 27, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you read the Caption (see below)
Quick BBD Update: Surgery Confirmed, Out 6 Weeks.
The surgery was today, the prognosis is 6 – that is SIX weeks – not 2 months – not a lot longer, but SIX weeks. Nowhere has any reference to severely broken been reported, except in your post. Do you have sources that we don’t?? That source need to have the letter MD or similar after his/her name.
Let’s deal with facts, unless you are a surgeon and reviewed the X-ray and MRI or whatever other tests were given to BBD.
by badax33 on Oct 27, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, the report is 6-8 weeks...
… with earlier reports being 3-4 months.
6 weeks is the most optimistic prognosis.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
by Roy_Hobbs on Oct 27, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol, 6 Weeks is a month and a half
I wouldn’t be surprised if its closer to 2 months
Don't Trade Rondo or Perk!
by RJ87 on Oct 27, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
big mistake
by big baby.
as far as lakersbluedevil being happy…. i hope your happieness goes beyond cheering for players getting injured.
by tommyfan on Oct 27, 2009 11:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
happy?
no, injuries suck. particularly when they are on the court. i am EXCITED to see KG play again.
this stuff with BBD? chalk it up to “you get what you pay for”
if you see it differently, then, well, not sure what to say. he was a bonehead at LSU and not much has changed
by lakersbluedevil on Oct 27, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like he's having surgery today.
Oh, joy.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
by Roy_Hobbs on Oct 27, 2009 12:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Since when do you have surgery to determine the extent of an injury?
Are surgeons around? Can’t a X-ray or MRI determine the extent of an injury better than cutting a guy open? Or is Chris Sheridan tweeting nonsense?
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Oct 27, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exploratory surgery, I assume...
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
by Roy_Hobbs on Oct 27, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meanwhile.....
The LA Times sports section is likening this Lakers team to the six time champion Bulls. What a way to start the season. Baby stupid injury combined with the negative aspects of Rondo’s rejection of an offer casts a shadow over things. All of a sudden we’re fragile.
by thereallargejames on Oct 27, 2009 12:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
It’s been a tough 24 hours for Cs fans…Rondo rejects his extension offer, Baby breaks thumb in mysterious non-basketball altercation…really takes some wind outta the sails…that is, until we blow out the Cavs.
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Oct 27, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's Not Get Excited!!!!!!!!!!!!
BBD wasn’t going to play a whole lot of minutes – 12-15 per game. We still have 3 bigs to play 96 mins. So now Williams get whatever minutes are left over. Hopefully, BBD will be back in 6 weeks and start producing, because I really believe that Danny signed him primarily as a trade chip and insurance to KG, which he kind of ruined.
BTW, I don’t have a problem with any suspension. It was his friend, he should have told him to leave . If he didn’t call the cops, that’s what they get paid to do. I understand, he a macho athelete but now he injured doing something dumb. Too Bad.
As for Rondo, so he turned down an extension, he’s not going anywhere soon. He under contract for this year, he’s only a restricted free agent next year, which is good for us. He needs to play really good this year or his market value might actually decrease. We have the right to match any offer sheet. Does anyone think he’ll actually get a max offer sheet? I certainly don’t – 5 yrs 45- 50M I think is reasonable. Seems he wants almost CP3 money, then he’d better shows he’s as good. Even if get a max offer sheet, we save money and years. The contract can only be for 5 years and the raises are 2 or 3 % lower.
Also, I believe, that although an extension would begin in 2010 if he signs an offer sheet next summer that doesn’t kickin until 2011 so he plays next year for only 3.7M not 9/10M that we offered (about 6M dfference). I could be wrong, but I don’t think so. Does anyone know for sure? I checked hoopshype salary and the only guy I see that signed new contract is Lemarcus Aldridge who signed an extension this off season but it playing on his rookie scale of 5.8M this year with the extension kicking in at 10M next year.
by badax33 on Oct 27, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Geez Calm Down
A broken thumb isn’t that serious unless it’s a compound fracture. I broke a thumb skiing about 25 years ago and I had full use of the hand in about 5-6 weeks, and that was without surgery.
No matter how stupid BBD’s behavior was, a suspension seems petty and vindictive to me.
by Brickowski on Oct 27, 2009 12:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It depends, Brick
If Baby was fooling around and broke a thumb, it’s well within the teams rights to suspend him and recoup some of his salary. Such clauses are a normal part of an athlete’s contract—taking care of their bodies is about ‘taking care’, which means you can’t engage in reckless activities without good cause. If it was self-defense, it’s different. And if Glen is being cagey about the details, then what do you do?
I’m reserving judgment until the facts are on the table, but I see some argument for a suspension, if only to slap Baby into a more mature outlook. Wyc really didn’t need to go on the radio and announce it that way. That’s not very classy—even if Baby did something stupid, it’s smarter to keep your displeasure in house. But we all know Wyc is a media whore…
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Oct 27, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was reported as an "Altercation"
Usually, that word is another word for “FIGHT” and if that’s the case, then Wyc has every right to throw Glen to the wolves….
by BNTHIS on Oct 27, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and whether or not Wyc is a “media whore” as you put it, he’s the owner and can do whatever the hell he wants. Especially when HE’S THE ONE that pays Glen’s now-over-inflated(IMO) salary.
by BNTHIS on Oct 27, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a good way to start this season
I had high hopes that Glen Davis would prove last year he is for real. Now I put Bill Walker and Tony Allen higher on the depth chart than Glen Davis. L’enfant Terrible is his new moniker in the Eyes of the Q. That is not a good thing at all.
Boston Celtics - 2008 World Champions
by QuinielaBox on Oct 27, 2009 12:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gary Washburn just chatted that...
Baby is expected to miss 3-4 months! That’s around the All-Star break.
Now we know why Wyc was ticked off. Must be a pretty bad fracture. This is terrible news for Baby and the Cs. Baby needs to take the break as a wake up call and work on his maturity.
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Oct 27, 2009 12:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's apparently consistent with what Marc Spears said on WEEI, as well
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
by Roy_Hobbs on Oct 27, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roy any further word from Spears on the nature of the injury
and why they think it’ll be twice the normal recovery time for a broken thumb?
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Oct 27, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't heard any updates...
I’m assuming it’s more severely fractured than most thumb injuries, but that’s speculation.
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
by Roy_Hobbs on Oct 27, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
better option
should have had his thumb up his a$$ instead his head.
would have kept it much safer.
by slamtheking on Oct 27, 2009 12:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Didn't Davis say he got into martial arts to help him to get in shape in the offseason?
I thought I heard this somewhere… Is this what he was doing when he got hurt? Maybe they told him they didn’t want him doing it???? I did martial arts for 10 years and would have to say it one of the best ways to get in shape so if this is what he was doing I might need to give him somewhat of a pass. However if they told him not to and he did it anyway I can totaly see getting mad…
by warriorspirit on Oct 27, 2009 12:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Altercation was the word used. I don’t think Martial Arts TRAINING exercises would result in injury…
by BNTHIS on Oct 27, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It may be a little less easy, but we will be ok. Good way to trivialize yourself. Glenn who?
by thirstyboots18 on Oct 27, 2009 1:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
irony of baby's situation
so we let Leon go because he’s hurt and won’t be able to help us until February or so and then we re-sign Baby and make him the man. Now Glen is hurt and out 8 weeks and Leon is better and is talking about playing. And all it would have take to keep Leon was about $1M or less. TO top it all off Leon signs with our main rival the Cavs and is super pissed and motivated to beat us. Did I get that right? Way to go Basketball Gods- YOU GOT US AGAIN!!!!
by Red2 on Oct 27, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Link me now
I’ve seen NOTHING about Powe “talking about playing” and Fear The Sword has no news on Powe. Heck, they have Lebron saying that Delonte plays tonight or tomorrow (well of course all that matters to us is tonight).
by Tai on Oct 27, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baby`s "Teachable Moment"
Wyc has every right to suspend BBD.
A “smart” Baby will fully embrace how stupid he acted, and wallow in the pain for the next month or so. Then, use this experience to mature, and work harder than ever to maximize his abilities on the court.
He`ll be back well before the season is over. What he shows us then will illustrate what he is really made of!
by Title 18 on Oct 27, 2009 1:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There is no set period of healing time for a broken thumb.
From what I’ve read, it depends where it’s broke and it can range up to 6 months with a higher break better than a lower one.
by colincb on Oct 27, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have had the same thumb broke twice
hence all my tyPO’s…….
Song of the Day by Biz Markie (slight remix on the chorus)
Baby You, you had what we need but you got punched on by a friend
Now you say your fat thumb won’t bend, oh baby please
You, you had what we need but now Wyc will reach out and suspend
How long you gonna be on the mend, oh baby pleeeeeease
You, you had what we need but you know
now you’ll never win………… oh baby please………
(Still working on the verses)
Is it Soup Yet?
by Master Po on Oct 27, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Classic, Po
All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks. - Rick Pitino
by Roy_Hobbs on Oct 27, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Take your time, Po.
There are weeks ahead for your Song of the Day to be used on. It could turn into an epic poem.
by no kidding on Oct 27, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is so tremendous
I’m moving it up into the post and also just shared it on my google reader to all the nbabloggers out there.
When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"
by Green17 on Oct 27, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wyc made a mistake
It’s not easy dealing with the media. When you’re doing an interview, the questions come fast and furious and you’re answering off the top of your head many times. If you’re not used to it, you can easily say something you regret. Danny’s a pro at this… if he says something, it’s because he wants to and he knows the consequences. His response to the BBD situation is perfect. Wyc screwed up, said what was on his mind, and probably without knowing all the facts. Certainly there was nothing to be gained, and plenty to potentially lose, by airing his unformed and uninformed thoughts about possible suspension to the media.
As for Davis… many are saying how stupid this all is, and it does sound stupid. But please, WE DON"T KNOW what happened. We see one word, “altercation”, and we jump to conclusions. I think that we, like Danny, should reserve judgment until all the facts are known.
I’m sorrier to lose Scal than I am over Baby. The good news is that his sprain should be ok in a week or two. Anyway, all these guys are secondary and tertiary to the core of this team, which remains intact. (But if they ever lose Eddie… that would be serious. They would finally see how critical he is to their success.)
by DRJ1 on Oct 27, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but the thing is that they wouldn't be using the word "altercation" if there wasn't one, DRJ1.
That’s the reason why people here are so up in arms over this whole thing with Glen.
An “Altercation” usually means a FIGHT where punches are thrown.
Sorry but if it looks like a duck, and walks a duck….(to borrow a cliched saying)
by BNTHIS on Oct 27, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the details of any 'altercation'
are instrumental in laying blame. until we have those, this is all just idle speculation.
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Oct 27, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He pays the bills
What do we know about the “altercation”? We are judging Wyc by what we know. I will bet you dollar to donuts that he know a whole lot more than we do. And if he says there’s probably going to be a suspension, IMO, it’s probably justified.
I will also speculate that Alcohol played a part in the “Altercation” which might be a violation of the CBA. Not itself a suspendable act but the resulting “Altercation” may then be suspendible. See how as we really don’t know the details, I just thought , I throw my speculation out there.
by badax33 on Oct 27, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only 6-8 weeks--Thank JESUS!
Per WEEI at http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/this-just-in/214767/source-davis-out-6-8-weeks-after-surgery
Wyc’s response (included in the above article) sounds much more reasoned the 2nd time around.
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Oct 27, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it Jesus or JEBUS? :)
Seriously though, You do know that 6-8 weeks is really about 1 to 2 MONTHS, right? Whenever an injury recovery time is reported, it’s always in Weeks to make it sound shorter than it really is. lol.
by BNTHIS on Oct 27, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
6-8 weeks is better than...
3-4 months. I hope you can do THAT math.
Part of Wyc’s anger was the possibility that Baby was going to be out for half the year…but as soon as it looks like it’s only 6-8 weeks Wyc mellows considerably. Check out his recent comments to WEEI (included in the above article).
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Oct 27, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh
Williams is going to literally and figuratively rebound his way into BBD’s rotation spot. I am an admitted BBD hater. Sorry guys.
by stevenfuzz on Oct 27, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
regards to wyc
I think its a breath of fresh air to have a guy like Wyc who actually cares about winning and not just turning a profit. there are too many owners in this league who care about money more than winning, wyc doesnt seem to be one of those clearly.
As far as his anger? Rightfully so! Don’t forget when the Celts go over the salary cap, that money comes out of their pockets! As far as he is concerned, Glen is stealing his money, and he has every reason to be mad about that.
For people to say that Wyc is out of line for publicly stating his dissapointment with Davis is unfortunate. Wyc, Ainge, Doc, and the team prepare in the off-season to come in and bring a championship to back to Boston. When players put themselves and the team in jeopardy of this, something needs to be said.
I’ll say this- it is better that Wyc call out Davis then another member of the team or Doc. I’d like to keep the current harmony in-tact with this team as it is.
by Jimmy Toscano on Oct 27, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wyc Cares Deeply About Turning a Profit
Otherwise, Leon Powe would still be a Celtic and JR Giddens would be playing elsewhere (probably Europe, because he’s not NBA ready),
by Brickowski on Oct 27, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OK......
Is there something wrong with caring deeply about turning a profit?
What am I missing here?
by Finkelskyhook on Oct 27, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
never follow a hippie to a second location
by stevenfuzz on Oct 27, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha, 30 rock is an awesome show....
Don't Trade Rondo or Perk!
by RJ87 on Oct 27, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what do either of those things have to do with turning a profit
wyc cares about winning. That’s why he gave the ok to trade for kg and ray, and signed sheed this offseason. The fact that we have the team we do and are paying luxury tax proves that. When he signs a player, and the player messes up, he has every right to be upset. I don’t think anyone can say he shouldn’t be upset, including glen davis most of all.
by Jimmy Toscano on Oct 27, 2009 4:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
How is JR Giddens still being here...
prove that Wyc wants to turn a profit? You’re pretty much saying we’re paying a sucky player to stay here. You want him traded? The season hasn’t even started yet. Talk to me in Janurary/February.
And the Celtics were actually considering giving Mike Sweetney a chance to play on the team this year if he was willing to lose weight. Yeah, that’s right; pay him to play. What do you mean Wyc simply wants to turn a profit?
by Tai on Oct 27, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any doctors out there?
Any idea what this entails?
“surgery to reduce and fix a right thumb fracture”
When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"
by Green17 on Oct 27, 2009 4:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if surgery is required
then either pins are required or tendons (soft tissue) got torn along with the break.
I’m betting pins are required here.
by mmmmm on Oct 27, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely disapointing news to start off the season...
After being so excited for tonights game, all the news between baby and rondo is disapointing, but we still have a promising season to look forward to. I love baby, and i think he adds a lot to our bench, but in all honesty, I don’t think it will make a damaging difference.
by faithfulcelticfan34 on Oct 27, 2009 4:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WIth all the facts in...
It’s a regrettable incident, and a teachable moment. Somebody bothers your girl and sucker punches you, tell me that you wouldn’t retaliate? Baby’s human and he’ll learn from this. His press release shows the right amount of remorse. Wyc sounds like he’ll just fine him and not suspend him. Sounds fair, even if Baby isn’t technically at fault.
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Oct 27, 2009 4:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is there any word on the other guy?
Do we know it’s not Tyrus Thomas?
by no kidding on Oct 27, 2009 4:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tyrus was in Chicago with the Bulls - he has an alibi
I wouldn’t be surprised if its a player thats not in the NBA
Don't Trade Rondo or Perk!
by RJ87 on Oct 27, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Herald has the story
It is some former high school teammate. Follow the link above (you may have to refresh the page if it’s been open a long time).
by Berkcelt on Oct 27, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I was only kidding about it being Tyrus Thomas.
Yeah, like a lot of fights, it was just with a high school knucklehead buddy… after a few too many drinks… and started over an inappropriate remark about somebody’s girlfriend.
by no kidding on Oct 27, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't F with BBD GF
2 months and hopefully a bit more common sense.
"Do you know that nonbelievers create the most positive energy?" Davis said
by Birdbrain on Oct 27, 2009 5:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
fracture has to be better than a break doesn’t it? although the healing time is probably the same. wyc is allowed to be pissed off. you pay these guys millions of dollars and you tell them over and over not to hang with the wrong people and not to put yourself in bad situations and especially not 2 days before the season starts. These guys are NOT free to do whatever they want. there is too much invested in them for them to put themselves at risk whether it;s riding a motorcycle or staying out too late with a drunken , beliigerent friends.
by Red2 on Oct 27, 2009 5:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Idiot
At his age, getting into a fight with a friend over something said is pathetic. Idiot.
by guava_wrench on Oct 27, 2009 5:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"G D IT!!" glen davis!!! This is the stuff that makes curse!
A special offseason and the makings of a special season! Glen Davis has now tainted it!
IR or PUP his some what less fat winey butt! Then cut TA or trade he and J.R. To make room and go sign some one else to take babys minutes. Just because he had a good post season doejst make u a star bbd! U were inconsistand at best through out the entire season! Yeah u played well in kg’s absence! Yeah u worked hard in the off season but that garuntees u nothing. What’s best for the team allways wins out! Right now I’m not sure your best for our team! I was your fan bbd! Now your just a pussy version of ron arrest and stephan Jackson and eddie curry! Wyc should unload your blind to the championship vision ungreatcull ass asap! Don’t let kg or the door hit ya where wyc split ya!
by 17green on Oct 27, 2009 6:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jeepers – calm down. It’s a long season, and it’s not Omaha Beach.
by no kidding on Oct 27, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
davis breaking thumb ..
this is a big blow but i think we will weather the storm cause we have so much depth now trading scal is out of the question now. he is going to get playing time now . i bet the celtics still wish they had powe bad knees or not …
by lohaus#54 on Oct 27, 2009 6:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
know what's ironic?
he was getting MMA training during the offseason, if he put that training into good use he could have knocked out his friend, not hurt his thumb and we would not even be discussing this!
by jeric on Oct 28, 2009 1:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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