Marc Spears: Celtics want money from Davis too?

by indeedproceed on Oct 28, 2009 11:30 AM EDT Comment 25 comments

The Celtics re-signed Davis this summer to a two-year contract worth $6.3 million. The Boston Globe reported that owner Wyc Grousbeck is considering suspending Davis for his actions.

"Wyc has been on the warpath for two days over this," a league source told Yahoo! Sports. "They want to get money back from him."- Yahoo Sports' Marc J Spears

Update: Our resident Cap Expert Roy Hobbs points out in the comments that the above mentioned concept of the Celtics' getting money back from Glen is severely flawed. Monies recovered from a player go to charity, not to the team

Thoughts and more quotes after the break.

My first reaction was "no-no-no-no-no" because every time a team goes after an athlete's money it seems petty, but I can't fault the team for wanting to get money back when their player was injured in an incident that was entirely preventable, and was completely unrelated to basketball.

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Wouldn't it just be suspending him without pay?

As opposed to attacking his contract somehow?

by Greg Payne on Oct 28, 2009 11:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The only way Wyc would get money back would be by voiding the contract...

If there’s a suspension, the money saved goes to charity, not to the team.

This is sloppy reporting, I think; Spears’ source seems wrong.

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by Roy_Hobbs on Oct 28, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Exactly, Roy

Marc should know better.

Baby will probably be suspended a couple games, and fined an undisclosed amount and that’ll be the extent of it.

I also severely doubt that Wyc is hard up for cash, nor are the Cs hurting financially.

by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Oct 28, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

thx Roy

I added that above to IP’s post for clarity. Nice work.

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by Green17 on Oct 28, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wyc Needs to Calm Down

In two years when his contract is up, KG and Sheed are winding down we’re going to need Baby. We shouldn’t push him away now.

by Evantime34 on Oct 28, 2009 11:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Glen is not our future plan for starting PF.

by Fan from VT on Oct 28, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Baby really shouldn’t be paid for the next 6 weeks.

by moiso on Oct 28, 2009 11:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That would sting

Well if it was you or I getting hurt off the job I guess we could still collect disability :-)

by Staubach on Oct 28, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Who cares if Davis gets upset

He did something stupid and does not deserve to be payed. I am an illustrator if I was as dumb as him and broke my hand in a fight and couldn’t draw for six weeks, no one is going to pay me to sit around and do nothing.

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by Celtic on Oct 28, 2009 11:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Vindictiveness

Grousbeck’s penny pinching and vindictiveness will eventually hurt the team. Now that Davis is down, why don’t you kick him, again, again and again.

NBA agents and prospective free agents are watching, Wyc.

by Brickowski on Oct 28, 2009 11:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think

Wyc might be going a little overboard with all of this. Sure, what Baby did was stupid and childish, but he is going to be out of the game for an extended period, and he is also facing a suspension. If you want Baby to stop working on his game, and his fitness, take his pay away. Not a smart idea by Wyc, I think.

by 18isGREATERthan72 on Oct 28, 2009 11:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

This isn't true

As noted above, money from a suspension goes to charity, not to Wyc.

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by Roy_Hobbs on Oct 28, 2009 11:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

What about money from a fine?

Personally, I thought the first quote meant that they just wanted to take money [away] from him. I think some of his money should definitely go to charity instead of him being paid for doing something stupid. And suspending him from games would only hurt us more.

by markgent on Oct 28, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I've understand that thanks to your explanations Roy.

But since the money from the suspension goes to charity, how could the C’s take money from Glen? Is it even “legal” to tell him “you screwed up, now give me this much dollars”?

by Drucci on Oct 28, 2009 12:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I meant

For that group of salary filler.

by BballTim on Oct 28, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Ridiculous to blame Grousbeck

Brickowski, c’mon. It’s not always “the Man’s” fault. I doubt Grousbeck is “pinching pennies”. Yes, Davis should get kicked again and again and again. What is the nonsense symnpathy for Davis? I like the player and thought the “trade him” , “as good as he’ll ever be”, “no wingspan” (my favorite pseudo-expert comment) comments on this blog were wrong.
A suspension of pay is in order. If the club decides to give the money up to charity, that should be their call. A player signed to deliver services and now by his own foolishness he won’t. Its a big boy world, “F” up and you should not get a “poor little Baby, don’t do it again”

by Wildblu1 on Oct 28, 2009 1:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Where does the "hurting financially" come from?

That is really the only part of the whole article that bothers me. Did Steve Pagliuca decide to use some Celtic money to help finance his run for Senate? Did the lack of home playoff games into the ECF and Finals hurt last year? Were they counting on that money? Does Spears even got a clue of which he speaks? I want to know the story behind those two words in that article.

by nickagneta on Oct 28, 2009 1:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It's probably just speculation...

… based on the fact that the Celtics were one of the roughly 50% of teams that took “bailout” money from the NBA last year. However, at the time, the league stressed that some financially healthy teams had taken the money. Essentially, as I understand it, it was a low interest loan.

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by Roy_Hobbs on Oct 28, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes I Blame Grousbeck

That’s not the way to treat players. Ainge needs to work on “managing up” and getting Grousbeck to tone down the negative rhetoric. It’s unlikely to have much of an effect on Davis and just lowers his trade value, if that’s what the team wants to do. YOU DON’T DISCUSS DIRTY LAUNDRY IN PUBLIC. YOU TAKE DISCIPLINARY ACTION PRIVATELY IF AND WHEN IT IS WARRANTED.

It’s too bad we can’t trade Wyc Grousbeck and a second round draft choice for Mark Cuban.

by Brickowski on Oct 28, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Lol

Quit crying. The guy brought us a title..what did you do? Nothing.

You are acting like….a Big Baby. You going to cry on the bench about it like him too?

Can we trade you for a few Laker fans?

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by totheights on Oct 28, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rather uncalled for.

Having been in mid management for many many years I 100% agree with Brick. You don’t air dirty laundry. You don’t berate employees in public. You don’t leak rumors or innuendos.

When the players start countering by dragging the coach’s, management’s, and ownership’s dirty laundry and negotiating tactics and motivational tactics public, the first person you are going to hear telling that player to keep his comments out of the papers will be Wyc Grousbeck. Guaranteed! No doubt in my mind.

Wyc needs to keep his mouth shut or else he is going to start getting a bad reputation about how he handles interpersonal behind the scenes activities and relationships and when the Big 3 and Sheed retire into the sunset, it’s not gonna matter how much cap space he has, no one will want to come and sign with a loud mouth idiot.

by nickagneta on Oct 28, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

last time wyc got mad ...

Last time Wyc got mad, he had Telfair’s name taken off his locker. Telfair was done here. I wouldn’t be surprised if the same will be true for BBD. Trade at the deadline with Allen and Scals???

by ForexPirate on Oct 28, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i gotta side with Wyc on this one and don’t understand the backlash.

I like the passion, dude just wants to win and be a smart business man. Baby got a solid deal, and messed up and needs to be held accountable, even if that means a shot to his bank account. I know he’s contrite, but he’s hurt the team and organization with a bad decision.

by BirdNerd on Oct 28, 2009 2:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs