Billy Walker is the only young guy who could crack the rotation.

His injury ruined my week…

I don`t see us picking up his option…

I honestly thought JR Giddens would stay here in Boston. He seems like a player with HUGE potential… his athleticism, his size, his defensive skills… Hmm, whatever, he’ll be a nice trade piece for another team.

Now that Walker has had another knee injury i think they’ll keep him on the books.

You only beat the Globe by a day on this story!

Horrible idea. Giddens was a first round draft choice that has been in the league one year. Doc did say Giddens was going to be terrific defender. Keep in mind this same guy is at the first week of training camp. To you’re point of Scal playing SG I really believe Doc was experimenting with different sets more so than Giddens not being good enough.

Scal or TA is not going to be here in 90 days, so who plays back up SG if Daniels is in for PP. Daniels can’t play two positions at the same time.

So you say we’ll pick up a vet. That’s possible but you have no ideal who will be available. The chemistry is a question his salary or the length of his contract will be question.

We can’t keep expecting players to come here for cheap. Everyone has a family to feed and as Danny say’s this is business.

Every team that can run gives us the blues. Why is that? Because they are good….. not necessarily, because they are young. Every team has to have youth to continue being successful. Giddens will be given this year but if their is not improvement this year he will be let go.

THE GLOBE IS WRONG ALSO

I feel for him – if he had gone to more shallow team perhaps he could have been developed further and really been able to show his athleticism. Tough break J.R. All the best.

First round pick…good size for a guard…no health issues…no character issues…athletic…played well in college…played well in D-League…wore #4 like Chauncey Billups.

Doc gave JR 8 minutes last year…and he shot 67% from the FIELD!
Doc gave Stephon M. 414 minutes…and he shot 46% from the FOUL LINE!

Smart, Doc….for NOT giving JR even the slightest opportunity!

The fact being J.R. can play. This kid was an all-american who went to KU. He then transfered to NM St. The fact being that he plays on a championship calaber team that is very deep. You think Paul Pierce, Ray Ray, and KG have a lot of years left? Yes they should pick up his option because this kid can play. He just needs an opportunity. I’m so sick of hearing the word “potential.” I hate that word and the NBA has too many players based upon “potential.” Potential is for a 19 year old kid where you don’t know how mature he is going to be on the court. Is his wisdom going to carry with his raw talent? This kid stayed in college for 4 years so it isn’t potential as much as getting the opportunity on a star studed team. You need younger players to hang around and learn from three future hall of famers. The person who needs to go is Tony Allen. He is aweful! Aweful. I can’t stand him. He can’t play in the NBA. He’s supposedly here for defense. What defense? JR is a lot better than Tony. I’ve seen both of them since they came out of high school and JR has a good jump shot, great slashing skills and above average rebounding skills for his height. He plays GREAT defense. Doc needs to give this kid a shot. He can def. play he just needs the opportunity to play. Granted its the D-League but I mean c’mon 17 – 6- and 3 a game. Daniels has proven himself in this league but I will guarentee that if Giddens played for the Pacers he would of done a lot more than Daniels did. Don’t get rid of this kid, we need younger players around and he’s the best of them.

   Most questions in life can be answered by another question:

   “Where is the money?”

    I think this is the case here. From what our experts here have told us:

          1. We are over the cap. 2. Any moneys we spend now costs double.

   If a vet can be picked up for 850 ?? And JR costs 1 Mill, that’s 300 K difference out of our owner’s pockets? 300K may not sound like much to all our big spenders on this forum but I’m sure it does to Wyc etc.

…and the C’s seem more and more appreciative of a good ‘basketball IQ’ all the time.

The Globe never said the team is going to let Giddens go. As a matter of Danny said he’s hard to guard one on one. The Globe article said Giddens can play NBA defense.

The guy has been to one training camp has played no exhibition games is your first round draft choice you spent over 1mil. on him and you want to throw him under the bus. The Globe article said the starters will play the first quarter then the rest of the team will play. His play will stop all this nonsense.

Good riddance….anyone who has attached themselves to a guy whos played a total of 8 minutes is sillly…this guy is nothing but a waste of a roster spot

Giddens is a NBA-level defender, penetrator, and rebounder. The problem is, that talent doesn’t fit on this team, mostly on the offensive end. Giddens needs the ball in his hands to be an effective player—he really has a poor off-the-ball game on the offensive end. In our system, in the role available to him, he needs to be able to play off the ball, hitting stand-still spot-up jumpers, moving the ball without 5 dribbles between his legs, and generally being efficient. But Giddens is all iso.

It’s my opinion that PG is about the only position where JR has any chance of cracking our rotation, but I’ve seen zero indication that they’re thinking about that. It’s a long shot anyway—but it’s his best shot on this team. In reality, JR needs to go to a bad team with available minutes for him to play his type of game.

Giddens, barring an injury in the next 3 weeks to the 6 players ahead of him on the depth chart, is not going to get his contract extended.

It seams like the only young guy any of the players or coaches have talked about (during training camp) is Hudson.

I don’t know that JR has more upside than Tony. And if Tony was 100% I would think Doc would insert him over Scal at SF. Doc and DA have been watching JR play in practice. if JR is not impressing Doc enough, that Doc tries to make it work with Scal at SF, that is not a good sign as to Doc’s gut level assessment. Thus far Doc doesn’t seem to be even considering it. If we don’t see some showing of JR in the preseason, I would think that is a Thumbs Down statement.

This is where I think Doc falls short, comments like this, “We’re pretty deep. We have good depth, great veterans.” Doc does a lot of things that are greatly suited for a veteran team, but his ability to recognize and develop young talent falls short. The celtics will be much better suited in the long run, finding out in game situations if these young guys can play. Doc had guys like Ryan Gomes and Delonte West buried on the bench until injuries forced him them and they each responded immediately. I’m not saying that either Walker or Giddens will be stars or should get consistent playing time – just, let’s find out. Even if it sacrifices a win or two in the regular season, it will pay off in the long run.

… but Doc and Danny have. I think he’s got this preseason as his last best shot to make Danny believe he needs to keep him.

I hope he at least gets a lot of preseason minutes so we can get a look, because even after a year, I have little clue as to what this kid can do. Still, it matters not at all whether any of us think he’s worth keeping, and he’s only got 3 weeks to show something special to Danny and Doc.

If they don’t pick up his option, he’s the kind of expiring that other teams like, in that he is (relatively) young and still has some po versus strictly expiring salaries with no po. At least they’d get a free look at somebody they might like to keep around.

This is a hugely important preseason for J.R.

Amusing to see people allege he has NBA game. Giddens non playing time last year when we were in need of players indicates that there isn’t NBA level talent there. Danny isn’t going to say that in public but actions speak louder than words. Always have.
I’m rooting for him. Always hoping that another Reggie Lewis, Gil Arenas, etc comes off that bench one day. But rooting and betting are two different things.

If TA, House, and Daniels are all gone next year, Giddens might be given another shot. Just something to think about

HE should not have been drafted in the first round anyway. Take a look at the players that were drafted behind him. CDR for the Nets for example, and our own Bill Walker.
This was a wasted pick from the monent that it was made.
I shead no tears for him and let his performance tell the story.