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Preseason Game 1: Celtics vs. Rockets / KG Watch

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Finally some actual basketball! No more speculating based on rumors- tonight is the first time we see this team in action since they were eliminated by the Orlando Magic in May. 

Thoughts after watching the 1st half:

  • KG looked like KG. In eight 1st quarter minutes he drained two 18 footers, played great defense including two steals, and had three rebounds. He would have had an ally-oop from Rondo but was fouled. His feet and hands are very active. No complaints or concerns.
  • Sheed still has it. He was all over the place on defense. He had three blocks and a steal and definitely made his presence felt in the paint. He drained a three pointer and a long two on the offensive end as well.
  • Rondo looked a little sloppy on both ends of the ball. He had a few turnovers and let Aaron Brooks burn him on more than one occasion.
  • Perkins and Davis are more mobile then they were last year. They're both still big enough to be presences down low, but at the same time they are quicker. Perkins played good defense down low early on.
  • Daniels airballed his first three pointer attempt, but looked solid after that. He even played the pg position for a bit and held it down just fine.
  • Pierce and Ray were smooth out there as usual. Nothing to report on that front.
  • Welcome Shelden WIlliams! Put back dunk off a JR Giddens ft. miss.
  • Tommy Point Count: Eddie House, 1. Lester Hudson 1. Both plays were them diving for the ball.
  •  Unintentional comedy: Brian Scalabrine covering Chase Budinger. Twins?

Thoughts after watching the 2nd half:

  • The starters as a whole unit came out kind of flat in the 3rd quarter. They gave up a ten point 1st half lead within the first six minutes of the 3rd quarter.
  • Garnett looked strong again in the 2nd half. He was never limping or showed any signs of fatigue. He had a great pass to Ray Allen cutting to the hoop as well.
  • Rondo never seemed right all game. Brooks absolutely got the better of him for most of the time they were on eachother. Wouldn't say it's anything to worry about though after one pre-season game.
  •  Impressive performance by Marquis Daniels tonight. He saw the floor very well, and found the open man. Him and House were very capable at the guard positions tonight.
  • Lester Hudson was very active on the court tonight, and he will need to be if he wants to make any sort of impression on Doc. That being said, he had a costly turnover with under two minutes to go in the 4th trying to dribble through two defenders and he had a +/- of -11, which was the worst on the team.
  • That wasn't Whale Wars they were playing on CSN, that was Michael Sweetney on the floor. He actually looked pretty good on offense, for what it's worth. Understandably so, he was slow on defense.
  •  JR Giddens didn't show much at all tonight. 
  • Oh, and not sure if this is really news, but Rasheed Wallace picked up a technical foul.
    Celtics couldn't pull off this win tonight, but you really can't look too much into that. None of the Big 3 played more than 17 minutes tonight and therefore there wasn't much of a flow to the game. When Michael Sweetney is your leading scorer with ten points, you get an idea of what type of game it was. The bottom line is that Kevin Garnett looked very good out there and the Celtics would have won this game if it was the regular season. The more playing time these guys get together the better the results will be.

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Great update, JT!

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by Roy_Hobbs on Oct 7, 2009 9:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

stuck at work

and i live on the west coast. Thanks for the update JT!! I can’t wait to call sick for the few televised games out here!! Let’s Go C’s!! Let’s Go Red Sox BEAT LAA!!!

What did you say to me paper champion?
-Mr.T

by CaliforniaGreen on Oct 7, 2009 10:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

excellent updates!

My only concern is Rondo not staying in front of his man. I was really hoping that’d change this season, and so far apparently it hasn’t. There’s still time though.

I’m not at all surprised by Rasheed. He is going to be an enormous addition.

I always thought Perkins was very mobile for a center position. He had developed good lateral quickness. Baby on the other hand needed to add it, so if he’s where Perk is now then that’s good!

by TomHamilton30 on Oct 7, 2009 10:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Have you seen Brooks?

He made a huge impression on me last year in some random game. He’s fast. He’s VERY fast. I’m not too concerned about Rondo not guarding him well, though I’m not happy about it either ;)

- Dirk 'DaarisDirk' van Boxtel

by Kiorrik on Oct 8, 2009 4:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Loved ‘Sheed tonight. Raised a class for his first technical foul. He’s what this team NEEDS.

Giddens looked out of control, still. Hudson was meh, but looked more like an NBA player than Giddens. Be interesting these next few games, whether Hudson gets more comfortable and shows that he might belong, because Giddens is proving that he does not.

Sweetney has such a nice touch around the basket, it’s a damn shame he’s so absurdly out of shape. Dude was sweating butter out there. Mike Gorman: “Sweetney had a handful of jersey there.” Me: “Well, he usually has a handful of cheesecake, so that’s something.”

If dude could drop fifty, sixty, seventy-five pounds, he’d be a player. Now, he can’t move his feet, he can’t play a lick of D. Amazing that someone who professing a desire to get back to The Show would show up in camp looking like that. Oh, well, Ollie Miller II.

But, if he could get in any semblance of NBA shape, he’s 10x the player Giddens is.

by theBird on Oct 7, 2009 11:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

sweetney

on the other hand, if he lost those fifty-seventy five pounds, would his offense suffer?

I was totally impressed with how strong he was. He really pushed his way around under the basket and obviously he knows how to use that bulk. He took some really hard fouls that he didn’t even flinch on, completing the shots to create the three-point plays. Nice short range shooting touch too.

But gawd, it took him days to get back on defense.

by mmmmm on Oct 8, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice write-up - thanks

Not having seen the game, this quickly answered a lot of my questions,

by no kidding on Oct 7, 2009 11:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

whatever weight big baby and perk lost, mike sweetney found it, and then some. too bad he has lost his self eating control because he has a nice offensive game. way too slow on d and on the boards. he makes eddie curry look svelte. rondo frankly stank. he looked like he was on a different page than his teammates. marquis showed a lot and tho hudson made some rookie boobos, is an athlete, and has some skills.

by nazzbo on Oct 8, 2009 12:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rondo always starts slow

He didn’t do much in preseason last year, and didn’t really going until mid-late november during the season. I’m not worried about him after just one game.

And how awesome is it to see KG out there knocking down 18 footers and dominating on defense?

by misterx2day on Oct 8, 2009 12:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Painful to watch Sweetney...

He could become the first ever NBA player to suffer an “in-game” heart attack!

Hope he loses the weight…not so much for his career, but for his life.

by Title 18 on Oct 8, 2009 12:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sheldon didn’t look too bad, either. He had that one vicious throw-down, and I thought he had a block or two but they must have been on plays called as fouls ‘cause there aren’t any in the box score.

Very encouraging game despite the final score.

by theBird on Oct 8, 2009 12:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So good to see KG back

After the end of last season and the playoffs without KG it was so nice to see him out there again. It was especially nice seeing that we still have our starting 5 back together looking great and better yet, we have a solid bench to back us up. Granted we lost this game, but I still liked what I saw for the most part. Can’t wait to go after 18!

by faithfulcelticfan34 on Oct 8, 2009 12:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice outing for the new bench additions.

Rasheeds played a solid game.
He was active, played good physical defense, rebounded well and talking alot of trash which gave the 2nd unit some toughness it lacked so much last year.
He also spread out the floor nicely and made most of his deep outside shots.
It was also so nice to finally see a big man with size and length come off our bench instead of like last year where we had to depend on undersized Powe and Baby to be our back up centers

Daniels was impressive .
He handled the ball pretty well, played point guard duty decently and had some nice drives to the hoop where he scored some nice baskets.
He is going to have alot points taking opposing guards and small forwards to the hoop and posting them up down low.
He should see alot of minutes for us at various positions since he appears to be so versatle.
He looks like he is going to be our new James Posey.

Williams looked pretty good.
Loved that rebound slam he had.
He was quicker and more mobile than I thought he was.
He also had a couple of nice blocks with those long arms of his.
He seems like a bigger, taller version of Leon Powe.

Hudson looked quite well also for his first outing.
He was very quick, active and in control for the most part (aside from his last 2
possessions in the game) .
He dribbled and bought the ball up the court fairly well under some pressure that Houston gave him.
He also dished the ball fairly well though he had no fancy passes.
Its early but Hudson showed some signs that he just could make it as our backup point guard.

Overall not a bad first outing for the new bench additions.

by leothetiger on Oct 8, 2009 12:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I loved seeing Sheed get free for 3s.

That’s gonna work so well with Pierce and KG.

by USG on Oct 8, 2009 12:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bench??

Thanks for the update. it really gave me a good idea since i cant watch pre season games in CA i was wondering how much time doc gave the bench to play and how much time did Rasheed play with the starting unit or did doc not even try that rotation?? i hate this. cant wait til the reg season. thank god for league pass. please fill me in.

by celtsgofor8in on Oct 8, 2009 1:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

KG looked pretty good

And that’s the main thing here. Pierce, Ray and Rondo looked out of rhythm to me…part of which may be due to…the referees. I will say, they were really trying but this isn’t going to be good. I was not expecting much, and boy, did I get it.

Daniels looked good, but it appears he can’t shoot outside the paint (as advertised). Sheed was tough in the paint on defense. Didn’t like the blow by he allowed on his first play in the game; he looks like he might be playing himself into shape a little. And gotta say, the first technical was not as fun as it was when he wore a Detroit jersey. Not at all. When he screamed “Ball don’t lie!” I did smile though.

I fell asleep during the fourth quarter, but up to then I was impressed by Sweetney’s effort. It’s too bad he’s got the weight problem, I hope he gets it under control, he’ll definitely play for someone if (the big if) he does.

I liked Hudson too. Otherwise pretty preseasony, replacement reffy game.

by Berkcelt on Oct 8, 2009 3:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The 2 teams had different agendas as the primary Houston rotation saw 6-10 minutes more time than our guys did. Most amazingly, 105 FTA were taken which is over twice the NBA average per game and a lot more than are were being called in other games tonight. IOW the refs were brutal as was the game. Don’t take anything away from this except the positive observations. It was obvious that some of the newer/younger players were pressing at times.

- #1, #2, #3 etc KG looked good.
- RA looks ready to make a strong case for a contract extension.
- Captain looked very happy.
- Rondo was not on his game.
- Wallace looked good as did Daniels, after a slow start. Daniels can’t shoot outside, but has a nice touch inside. Thought that maybe he can handle back up PG for limited minutes. Wallace is every bit the defensive player people say he is. When he’s with beyond the arc, it will be close to impossible to beat us.
- Perk and BB have lost weight and both looked more mobile. I think Perk may well has taken another step forward this year offensively. Certainly more assertive.
- Hudson and Williams looked pretty good IMO and I would think Williams is a lock for the roster. Let coach Ray work with him. He looked better than I expected on offense. Hudson was active on defense and is a physical specimen.
- Sweetney has lost weight coming into the summer camp and more coming into training camp. He also has a lot more weight/flab to go. Tough to see him hang on, but there’s a chance. If he gets into shape, he’ll play in the NBA. If we had only 14 contracts, I’d keep him without hesitation.
- I thought Giddens was pressing and he didn’t impress me positively, but I’d have to see more since this was the first time i can recall seeing him. Tommy likes him.
- Who knows where TA and BW stand, but of the guys here, Giddens and Sweetney seemed most questionable.

by colincb on Oct 8, 2009 4:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jr giddens

I thought JR did do some things well, He stayed in front on defense, was using his hands and feet well. He didn’t try to do to much and I thought that was a good thing. Let’s give the guy a chance, he is a freakish athlete and can be a scorer.

by CELTICS18 on Oct 8, 2009 8:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

first impression

good stuff:
KG looked good
Ray was more aggressive on offense and looked good.
Hudson looks like a keeper.
Giddens looked solid on defense—looks like he can fill TA’s role in that respect.
Daniels looks like a solid pickup.
House looked good.
Perk was solid.

Not so good stuff:
Rondo and BBD did not have good games.
The bench bigs were getting beat on the boards consistently.
Williams didn’t show much. A flashy dunk and not much else.
Would have liked to have seen more offense from Giddens but he didn’t kill us in that respect.
20 missed free throws? that’s inexcusable.

by slamtheking on Oct 8, 2009 8:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hudson thumbs up, Giddens thumbs down and more

Its only one game but Hudson looks much more assertive, something that Giddens (and Pruitt) haven’t showed. Hudson didn’t create any offense from the PG position, but he handled theball fair and he looked aggressive on D. Giddens was invisible and got a fair number of mins. But…8 more preseason games yet. The last few though will be round the rotation into shape so he better show up in next few games.

Williams was not that impressive to me. Houston did have an NBA junior varsity squad out there and he looked clumsy on offense (aside from the slam).

Sweetney….what a fool. He showed that he has NBA game but to come into a training camp that pudgy is ridiculous. Gotta play both ends, big fella. He couldn’t get a European contract with that conditioning problem.

I liked Daniels last year against us and I like him better with us. Nice, long player.

by Wildblu1 on Oct 8, 2009 10:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It appeared as though Hudson was running set plays, not that he wasn’t initiating.

by stevenfuzz on Oct 8, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rondo won't play in preseason

not unless the contract is settled.

by aboubata on Oct 8, 2009 10:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rondo Knows

He knows he is gonna go so he should play if he wants to get paid ,if not then we will jut have to add Scal to the deal or sweetney!

by rudster on Oct 10, 2009 9:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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