KG For The Win ...Got It
by Jeff Clark on Nov 22, 2009 4:05 PM EST
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PrintGlass half full view: They won!
Glass half empty: It was the Knicks, ...and it took a buzzer beater in overtime.
It should have been a comfortable win but the Knicks stormed back in the 3rd quarter and forced overtime with some late buckets and free throws. They almost made it 2 overtimes but KG's buzzer beater sealed the deal.
- Pierce led the way for the good guys with 33 points.
- Rondo missed a triple double by one rebound and picked up 4 steals to boot.
- Perkins got a double double of his own and also blocked 4 shots.
- Al Harrington paced the bad guys with 30 points of his own.
- For those scoring at home, Sheed took and missed 3 more threes.
- Who knew that Eddie Curry still had a pulse?
- No idea why Rondo was the one taking the shot at the end of regulation, but I'm glad they got it to Garnett in his sweet spot at the end of overtime.
- A win is a win is a win. Next!
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I'll take it
Pierce was hitting shots left an right from 3 today. He single handedly willed this team to victory in ot. Maybe this is what they needed to get a little swagger back in their step!
great block by PP at the end
and RR worked hard on the Boards, nice solid game by Perk and Sheed……????….dude get in the paint and quit shooting threes for awhile
Is it Soup Yet?
Sheed in the Paint
Amen, brother. Amen.
by BleedinGreen417 on Nov 22, 2009 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
Oh but I thought...
Raefsheed was “spreading the floor,” (cough).
by Raef on Nov 22, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Even though we won...
I hated this win.
Seriously… it took overtime and a buzzerbeater to beat the Knicks…
Celtics are clearly still in a hole and their defense was once again crappy.
Know what this reminded me of?
Remember like 4 or 5 years ago when we were playing Charlotte at home and it went to OT and Bob Cousy was helping do the color commentating…and Pierce fed Delonte West for the game winner at the buzzer? We were just glad we won…Today’s shot with KG was a relief shot, not an exciting shot…just like Delonte’s a few years back.
A win is a win….but not happy about win at all! KG look like his knee is killing him he just playing through it…..they look very very very SLOW
Glass half full:
Road Win with some blatantly horrendous calls at the end
Glass half empty;
Our Mr. Defense, Mr. Intangibles (KG) couldn’t single cover Al frickin Harrington. The Knicks’ go-to crunch time play was to go straight at KG. Secret is out.
KG clearly is not 100% yet
i feel if during the first couple game he was 80%
now he looks like he is only 60% if not less
by friedgreentomatoes on Nov 22, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
Thank God for Perk
For a lot of the game it was 3 on 5 out there. Ray & KG were bad.
It was Perk, along with a great night by Pierce, that kept us alive. What a game Perk had. He’s been our best player this year- hands down.
KG needs time before we know what his level of ability is. When we get to the trade deadline let’s revisit his ability. Not to trade him, but to see how his body is.
Big Baby would’ve really helped these last two games. A guy who can knock down the mid range jumper.
by JAM on Nov 22, 2009 4:36 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Eddie Curry
Curry was banging, holding, pushing, scoring and then…..in came Perk. I don’t think Curry was heard from once Perk took over. I can’t count how many other points he prevented. Just got to love Perk.
"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn
I sound like a broken record, but
They need to work on timing and spacing. Passes are not crisp, are often in traffic and because people are not where they should be, they are settling for way to many threes. They need to force themselves to drive inside, or position themselves for the pass inside. Once they are inside they can either go for the basket and a foul, or pass it outside when the defense has collapsed. And whatever happened to the fastbreak?
Does Sheed have a post up move?
if he does get down in the paint once in awhile and use it please
Is it Soup Yet?
the celtics have problems
i don’t know what that was
- yes, they won, but
- – it was the stinkin’ knics
- – - kg looks a little hobbled
- – - – i think a trade is looming large
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Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk
who can we get for ray allen?
If the pupu platter doesnt work what else do we have to trade other than Rays expiring deal?
Come on. it’s still early season
by vgarcia890 on Nov 22, 2009 7:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i would not
trade the most fundamentally sound player on the team
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Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk
i will keep Ray Allen ...
… even as Rondo’s shooting coach.
by getthat18now on Nov 23, 2009 1:45 AM EST up reply actions
pierce was not going to lose today!
it’s pretty simple; we need to weather the storm until we become more cohesive. KG is far from 100% and we are in a bad shooting slump. The bad shooting has become contagious and I think there may be more to it than just the law of averages. I think the bad shooting is from a lack of cohesion and that guys are tentative and are overpassing. that puts pressure on the shooter when they are open. we’re not flowing right now. we had a 14 point lead in the 4th because we came out strong in the 3rd and played hard for 5 minutes. But you could see that we eased up at that point because we thought we had the game in hand. I’m not sure ray and kg have the stamina anymore to play a quarter of hard defense so we’re not going to be able to separate ourselves from teams like we used to. other teams don’t fear us now and until we get back to playing at least 2 quarters of really hard d every game we’re not going to be the team we can be. Ray allen CAN NOT defend a pick and roll. twice he let his man beat him and tommy was right that the knicks purposely went at him. Ray is still a great weapon but right now his d is killing us. I would seriously consider benching him and starting daniels
I’ve only gotten to see a few games this years and unfortunately most of them were losses.
what I see is a perimeter defence that’s borderline atrocious, especially out at the three point line. it just kills them when the opposing team is shooting moderately well.
by bMunch on Nov 22, 2009 7:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Game was not as bad as it seemed
1) On O, the Cs were open most of the night (mostly because NY doesn’t play D at all). They just missed a lot of the shots they normally make. It happens. Nothing to worry about… shooters keep shooting, the ball will go in.
2) The guys worked hard today. Decent D. Rondo active. Mostly good stuff.
3) The refs were just terrible. Tried HARD to throw the game to the Knicks. Many, many bogus fouls (esp offensive), the travel call on Paul in Q1 (when he didn’t even have possession), the missed 3-sec call with Harrington on D all alone in the paint for 10 seconds, the missed goaltending call in PP’s shot, etc., etc.
4) If Ray or Sheed or KG had hit a normal % of their shots, this would have been an easy win. If the refs had been anywhere close to competent/fair, this would have been a blowout. All in all, not bad.
What does worry me is:
- Ray is no longer anywhere close to par. He’s a TO machine – can’t dribble or hold on to the ball – and missing way too many 3s. What’s left? Ugh. Looks like he’s entered his decline, sliding fast.
- KG is still working his way back. I put him at about 70%-75%. Probably take him to the All Star break to get close to where he once was. For now, the Big 3 are reduced to the Big One (Paul, of course).
- Sheed is sucking air. Actually air-balled a 3 today. Uggglllyyy. Ok, but he can be expected to get better (we hope).
One more worry
Doc not allowing Lester Hudson any PT. All over the league rookies are shining, carrying their clubs. Boston has become a rookie graveyard. Doc’s mind is just too narrowly focused. Always has been when it comes to rookies.
Lester hudson needs to get playing time to push the other players
by vgarcia890 on Nov 22, 2009 8:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Agreed. Two possibilities:
1) Per usual it’ll take an injury (to Ray, Eddie. Rajon or Marquis) to get him out there, or
2) He’ll emerge at mid-season.
Neither is ideal.
Ray is turning into a TO machine
But I think that has a lot to do with the fact that he’s definitely handling the ball more than he has since he’s been here. Much more dribbling & driving from Ray and not enough perimeter play. I don’t know if that’s him intentionally trying to adjust his play to his age, but he definitely needs to return to what he knows best.
Don't Trade Rondo or Perk!
Ray's BEEN a turnover machine since we got him.
He only has the ball in an attack position off the dribble a few times a game and I bet he turns it 25% of the time.
That’s not his strength, let Rondo create Js for him.
by BirdNerd on Nov 22, 2009 8:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
we have no chance
oh wait!! WE HAVE GARNETT!!
I see Reggie Miller in Ray Allen
Reggie could still shoot when wide open and could still hit his free throws but he’s retired because he couldn’t get open anymore and he couldn’t guard a stone. That was Ray today.
Worried!!
I’m really worried about KG.
He looked a little shook on the bench (when Eddie was slapping him to get him back up).
I don’t know where his health is and is going, but his limp and lack of lift/lateral scares me.
Even though, you could also see him digging down deep later on the same timeout. Even at 60% dude plays WINNING ball.
by BirdNerd on Nov 22, 2009 8:53 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I think everyone is overreacting about Ray
I agree, his defense hasn’t been anything terrific but I feel like the fans are always so fairweather when it comes to this team and its players. Had Ray hit the winning shot, a lot of people would be loving him right now. I’m a long time fan of the team, as well as this blog, but I always find it disapointing when I see so many negative reactions. I know Ray is getting older, and this very well could be his last year as a starter, whether here or somewhere else, but I don’t think he’s deserving of a lot of the negative comments.
by faithfulcelticfan34 on Nov 22, 2009 10:43 PM EST reply actions
Agreed.
All he over analysis drives me nuts.
Ray is fine. He’s been forced to dribble in a couple of spots lately because of switches but even he would be the first to say that his job is to play off the ball – which he still does as well as any #2 in the game – arguably one of the best in the history of the game.
I look at the raw defensive numbers and I see that the Celtics are continuing to keep opposing teams’ scoring down.
I look at the shooting percentages the last half dozen games and I see a half dozen super easy shots missed in each game – and I am talking some pathetically easy, wide open shots including layups that they’ve missed. Yeah, their overall FG% is still not that bad – but they shot the lights out the first few games. Then they sucked the last few games. Both are probably statistical extremes from where they will end up playing most of the time.
So screw all the psycho-analysis and complex rotations and trade talk. They just need to shoot better.
criticizm for rondo taking the last shot in regulation (pretty sure someone else wasnt where they were suppose to be and he had to take it, simple to figure it out)
and not one spec of criticzm for KG? yeah i know he hit the game winner, but he arguably played his worst game of his career…thought that mightve been mentioned…
Rondos speed, energy and passing ability, and Pierce simple making his shots won us this game
I almost dont want to give KG any credit for knocking down the game winner, instead credit Pierce for setting him up and giving the ball to a ice cold teammate
You're not the only one who feels that way,
I def thought KG should’ve been benched down the stretch – he was cold from the floor, was easily getting beat to rebounds, and couldn’t even stay in front of Al Harrington.
But as I’ve said before, it seems that “fans” wear green-tinted glasses when it comes to the Big 3, and everyone just blames Rondo (“oh, his FT shooting killed us” or “he can’t defend!”). But what no one admits is that in yesterday’s game, if KG hit some of those shoots or was a tad bit more aggressive on the boards, this game would’ve been quite different.
Its definitely an issue with the ENTIRE TEAM, I don’t think the blame rests with 1 or 2 guys, but something is in the water clearly and has our guys a tad lackadaisical. Hopefully, they’ll figure it out sooner rather than later.
Don't Trade Rondo or Perk!
Just to clarify
My main reason for benching KG down the stretch was actually more about his defense – or lack there of – rather than an offense. Even the best of shooters have their off days. But KG’s defense was a liability in yesterdays game. Case in point; with the Knicks down by 2, they ran an isolation play for Al Harrington knowing KG would be defending. KG had clear trouble ALL GAME staying in front of Harrington and D’Antoni took advantage. And it worked, Harrington blew by him and KG fouled him, sending him to the line and allowing him to tie the game.
Not a good sign for our best defensive player.
Don't Trade Rondo or Perk!
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