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Perkins and Rondo might be the cornerstones of the next generation.

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Perkins and Rondo might be the cornerstones of the next generation.

Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own. - Matthew 6:34

The Celtics are rightly focused on the present.  They need to maximize this window of opportunity.  However, they cannot completely sacrifice the future.  Life beyond the Big 3 isn't all that far away.  Rajon Rondo just signed a contract that won't end until 2015 so the subject of our future is on my mind.

Of course there's nothing we can do about tomorrow, so there's truly nothing worth worrying about.  However, that doesn't mean we can't gaze at the horizon and speculate about it a bit.

There are far, far too many variables to make any sort of well defined predictions about who will be playing for the Celtics 2, 3, or 4 years from now.  Barring unforseen circumstances, you can count on Rondo, Pierce, KG, Perkins, Sheed, and most likely Big Baby to be on the roster next year.   Everyone else is a free agent.

The Celtics will have a good shot at bringing Ray Allen back with a short term extension.  Assuming he doesn't opt out this summer, Paul Pierce will be eligible for an extension the next year.  But at some point those two, along with Garnett, will transition to being support players.  I expect Pierce to retire in Boston but KG, Ray, and Sheed could each eventually be moved near the end of their contracts.

At some point, the next generation (led in theory by Rondo) will have to take over the reins.  Perkins is the other young cornerstone to build around, but he'll need to stay healthy and be resigned first.  Having Rondo and Perkins takes care of the two hardest positions to fill, but we'll need more than that to compete for more championships.

Star-divide

Even though I'm a huge fan of Rondo, I just can't picture him as the alpha dog and face of the franchise.  He's too introverted off the court and he seems to lack that charisma that natural leaders have that makes people gravitate toward them.  (Put another way, I don't think Tom Brady's coach ever had to ask him if his teammates liked playing with him.)  Perhaps as he grows and matures he'll be better at it.  Remember that Paul Pierce had to work on his demeanor and image a bit.  But right now, I don't see it. 

Regardless, Rondo and Perkins will need at least a couple of dynamic scorers to round out the starting lineup.  In an ideal world we'd find a way to bring Kevin Durant to town (but don't hold your breath).  The challenge is how to bring in star-quality talent that is still young enough to hit their prime alongside Rondo and Perk.

One option of course is the draft.  But the Celtics are going to continue to pick at the end of the first round and wind up with gambles like Gabe Pruitt and J.R. Giddens.  We can count on Danny to find the occasional gem like Big Baby or Leon Powe, but it is really hard finding future stars that low in the draft.

Another option is to move tradeable assets for lottery picks.  The C's have some expiring contracts this year and maybe they could convince a team to give us a bad contract and a good pick for our Scal and Tony, but don't count on it.  For one thing, picks are like gold in this economy (cheap labor).  For another thing, the Celtics will be way into luxury land as it is without taking on bad contracts.  I don't know just how deep Wyc's pockets are, but I tend to think it would have to be a real lopsided deal for him to sign off on a move like that.

So perhaps the most realistic option is to use the MLE each year on guys in their early 20's (rather than thirtysomethings like Sheed).  I believe Red had a philosophy of adding one very good player per year, which allowed him to sustain his dominance over the years.

Like I said, there's no shortage of paths this club can take to get into the next generation but I'm far from worried about it.  It will be fun to see which approaches Danny takes.  In the meantime we'll just have to bide our time  watching an elite team fight for more championships.

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Hmmm

So you quote the biblical phrase, and then … contradict it? OK, then.
Too soon.

by Big_Easy on Nov 5, 2009 10:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

don't think it was a contradiction

I said I wasn’t worried about the future

but yeah, I did kind of take it in a different direction – kind of a curveball I admit

"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V

by Jeff Clark on Nov 5, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Gold-Medal Superstar

If we believe in the Gold-Medal Superstar theory, we’ll have to choose between:
1. Collecting the necessary chips to trade for someone like Durant, James, or Wade (very rare, but that’s how we got KG)
2. Freeing up enough dough to buy someone like that during free agency (somewhat rare)
3. Drafting him, either by winning the lottery or trading for a top-5 pick (a major gamble)

I think option 2 seems most likely for the 2011-2012 Celtics.

by IdahoGreen on Nov 5, 2009 10:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm thinking more likely Ainge will try for Door Number One.

Any one or more of the Big Three could be part of the necessary chips.

by no kidding on Nov 5, 2009 11:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Scripture

This is nice jeff, I can always use a-verse-of-the-day. I love the blog, but it tends to lead me astray. So devotions might be a good sulpplement because you have everything else covered!

by Bill Walton on Nov 5, 2009 10:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

got another blog for that

check my profile if you are really interested

"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V

by Jeff Clark on Nov 6, 2009 7:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

here’s the link

"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers" Henry V

by Jeff Clark on Nov 6, 2009 7:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

second comment

I greatly appreciate the 2nd reply-I will visit regularly. First entry compliments James 5:1-6

by Bill Walton on Nov 6, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i dont worry about tomorrow.. danny does that for me

by 00dc2 on Nov 5, 2009 10:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

so enjoy today!

by 00dc2 on Nov 5, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I know this will probably NEVER happen, but

I would love to see Melo in green. He’s been one of my faves for awhile and he’s a natural scorer. Paired with a natural distributor in Rondo, and defensive force in Perk. That would be a nice future.

Again… this will NEVER happen but I can dream, can’t I?

Don't Trade Rondo or Perk!

by RJ87 on Nov 5, 2009 10:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

maybe, but...

they will still need more than that. Melo is playing with a pg widely renowned as ‘better’ than Rondo right now and they aren’t exactly thought of as legit (top 5) contenders. I would also probably take Nene over Perk. While I would love a player like Melo, I don’t think it solves all of our problems.

by jambr380 on Nov 5, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They aren't?

Lakers
Celtics
Cavs
Magic
Nuggets

That’s my 5 any and all days of the week.

by USG on Nov 6, 2009 12:47 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

All of the big three will retire as Celtics, especially if they win another title.

by RTroy on Nov 5, 2009 10:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Derrick Rose's personality
Even though I’m a huge fan of Rondo, I just can’t picture him as the alpha dog and face of the franchise. He’s too introverted off the court and he seems to lack that charisma that natural leaders have that makes people gravitate toward them.

I kind of see what you’re getting at. But at the same time, Derrick Rose doesn’t seem to have that charisma either and he’s painted as the alpha dog and face of the franchise. I think it’s something that can be developed, if Rondo believes in himself and people believe enough in him.

by Pengaloo on Nov 5, 2009 10:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great Observation

Rose comes off as really shy and looks uncomfortable in the media, but he’s branded as a potential superstar and they find a way to market him where it works. No reason the Celts can’t work on it with Rondo.

Don't Trade Rondo or Perk!

by RJ87 on Nov 6, 2009 12:29 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think Rondo’s starting to develop an alpha dog personality. Maybe it isn’t natural in all people, like it seems to be in some (LeBron, KG, etc.), but I think Rondo can grow into being the leader of the team. He says all the right things to the media, he’s obviously confident as hell, and he’s got superstar talent. Maybe he can sort of morph into the alpha dog. But he’s going to need somebody alongside him, at least one more all star, if the Celtics are going to contend in the “Rondo-era” as I think the next ten years will be called. Maybe not Melo or even Durant, but somebody like Rudy Gay or a Lamarcus Aldridge type player will work. Or maybe somewhere down the line, Chris Bosh.

by misterx2day on Nov 5, 2009 11:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Perk will lead

Obviously Perk’s a bit overshadowed by our august vets, but from early on his public comments and brooding, protective on court demeanor showed commitment and heart. His progress as a player is as much a testament to his work ethic and coachability as to the good coaching he’s had. How many of his high flying peers have washed out because their heads and/or hearts weren’t in the right place? Perk’s a flat out role model already!

In my mind he’s as untouchable as Rondo.

by Thruthelookingglass on Nov 6, 2009 12:11 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

as long as the shoulder holds up

i totally agree.

Perk is so underrated its not funny. He’s not flashy, but he’s an absolute rock.

by mmmmm on Nov 6, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Perk untouchable?

I love Perk, but if I could get the next K.G. in a deal that included Perk, well I would have to say goodbye to Perk.

by Little D on Nov 6, 2009 6:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

$64 Question

Well, Jeff, you’ve asked it, but as of yet, there is no answer.

by Brickowski on Nov 6, 2009 12:26 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

two words

Anthony Randolph
Watch his stat line/minutes all season. I’m out here in the bay area and I have to tell you he is ripe for the taking. Last night like 7 minutes. Don Nelson has become totally totally inept. Thats a kid you trade for and groom. Focused determined and a stud. If he averages minutes wise whats hes averaging now I would go all out to trade for him as present/future piece.

by chanter on Nov 6, 2009 1:25 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Alpha Dog

I believe Rajon is an absolute alpha dog.

Just look at the Chris Paul episode.

Rajon wants to compete and he wants to win as much as anybody on this team.

The only thing holding him back is his deference to PP, KG and Ray.

Once those three start waning, Rajon will be there to take up the reigns as The Captain and I submit that he will do just as good a job as PP, if not better.

The guy understands the critical importance of the “team” concept at the ripe old age of 22, yet he has the ability to take over a game single handedly and lead us to victory, witness the 3rd quarter of the Wolves game and the Chicago play-off series last year.

Doc asked him if people liked playing with him. My reading of that episode is that Rajon expects a lot from his team mates. That is a core alpha male trait. The great thing is, Rajon expects the same of himself and has stated time and again that he will work his butt off to be the best.

His conditioning is exceptional and it will not be acceptable to turn up to training camp on Rajon’s team out of condition. That form of unprofessionalism will not be tolerated.

Rajon wants to be the top dog and if he wasn’t an alpha male to some degree, he would not have survived as a second year point guard leading a star studded team to a Championship.

Danny and Doc know exactly what they are buying for $55 million and they like what they have bought.

Celtic pride, passion and Ubuntu are in safe hands with Rajon.

As a Celtic fan, we have the wonderful privilege of being able to sit back and watch this young man’s many talents blossom over the next six years.

He will define the Celtics team of the next era and he will be a force to be reckoned with night in, night out.

Go the Green!!!!

Cheers

Aussie

by Aussie Celtic on Nov 6, 2009 5:16 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Easy...

Use Scal, Tony, Walker and Giddens Expiring Contracts for one or two good player, (KELENA AZUBUIKE!!!, Andres Nocioni, Rip Hamilton, Prince, Travis Outlaw, or Jared Dudley, etc) and the next year just sign another good player.. (KELENA AZUBUIKE!!!!, J.J. Redick, Luke Ridnour, even Jordan Farmar..)

And If posible, resign RayRay, House, Shelden and Daniels…

Imagine this:

Rondo-Azubuike-Pierce-Garnett-Perkins
House-RayRay-Nocioni-BigBaby-Sheed
Hudson- 1 and 2 pick draft—-Semih Erden

by Hanzinho on Nov 6, 2009 7:51 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

the future

u would quite like a starting 5 of
PG Rondo
SG Pierce
SF Bill Walker
PF Big Baby
C Perk

assuming they all learn how to win from the big 3 (and baby doesn’t go to the nfl ;)
Who knows what free agency could yield, but with those 5, we could get a solid second group.

by taxbax on Nov 6, 2009 11:08 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

a bit on the small side

That’s a high ‘skill’ lineup – but it would benefit a lot to have some length either in place of Baby at PF or as first option off the bench.

Of course, maybe Shelden Williams provides that (not super tall at 6-9 or 6-10, but he has those loooong arms that he plays like he’s 7ft) length? If he truly is showing now that all that ‘potential’ might actually be realizable, he could be a stud.

by mmmmm on Nov 6, 2009 3:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

meant to say

he could be a stud off the bench.

by mmmmm on Nov 6, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The paint would be crowded

Only PP can shoot beyond fifteen feet and you only have Perk to defend the rim. Ist round and out IMO.

by Little D on Nov 6, 2009 6:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Marquis Daniels

We need to get him back for an extended period of time. Hopefully it can get done.

"I don't come to play, I come to WIN"--Larry Bird
"Criminally Negligent Officiating"--Tommy Heinsohn

by TrueGreen on Nov 6, 2009 11:36 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Always worth thinking about the future

This is what keeps me awake at night especially when I see how young the Lakers are. A GM lives in two worlds. She lives in the present trying to win games and then has to look two/three years ahead laying out a long term plan. The present and future are always in a dynamic tension with one another (Master Po, you have taught me well.). The present can change in the face of an evolving long term plan. And, the long term plan can change in the face of a changing present. Frankly, it would drive me insane to have to manage that. I’m just a fan and have panic attacks about it. (Maybe if I didn’t live in L.A. it wouldn’t be as bad.) It seems clear that next year Ray Allen is the odd man out. If he comes back, he will have to come back for a home town discount. If not, use some of his salary for a blue chip level guy and have Danny accumulate assets the best way he knows how the expiring contracts and savvy late draft picking. And now, a reading from the Book of Satan.

by thereallargejames on Nov 6, 2009 11:51 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Laker youth

Perk/Rondo vs. Bynum/Farmar. I can live with that. Oh boy, can I live with that!

by Thruthelookingglass on Nov 6, 2009 12:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

the age of innocense

if you compare the Laker roster to the Celtic roster, overall the Lakers have fewer ‘elderly’ guys – Fisher (35) and Kobe(31) are the only ones over 30. The Lakers are strong in guys who should be in their prime 25-30 years. Eight guys listed on their roster fit in that bracket.

The Celtics are both young and old. They have the Elderly Gentlemen’s Club of Sheed(35), Allen(34) & KG(33) and then Pierce(32), House(31) & Scal(31) make up the Middle Ages.

But on the other end they have a bunch of relative (sub-25) babies in Rondo(23), Perkins(24), BBD, Walker(22) & Giddens(24). Even Hudson at 25 is young in basketball years. The Celtics are thin in the middle, with only Shelden(26), TA(27) & Marquis(28) in that 25-30 bracket. And TA hardly counts.

The negative is the degree of talent on the upper end (Sheed, Ray, KG) that simply can’t last more than a couple more years.

The positive is that the degree of talent on the very lower end (Rondo, Perk, BBD, etc) is pretty high too.

We aren’t going to lose Sheed, KG, Allen & Pierce all at once. We will need to resign Allen who keeps himself fit that I can seem him playing at a high level for at least a couple more years. Sheed will be hard to replace but Perkins and Williams and BBD will have had another full year of experience each by the time he is gone. Since they will be vets, we can look for a younger big man to bring in.

KG will be the next one to worry about and that will be big. Do we trade him while he has some contract value at the end? How do you replace all the things he brings to the team?

by mmmmm on Nov 6, 2009 3:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If we are able to stay a legit good team after the big three are gone, then DA is better than even his biggest supporters think. You never know what is going to happen in the future so we need to enjoy this ride as long as we can. I do hope we can maintain a solid team after they are gone, but I’m not going to get my hopes up for it. But even if there are a few lean years, it would have been worth it.

Now lets go get 18

by angryguy77 on Nov 6, 2009 7:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

BTW, I like the link Jeff. I will check it often.

by angryguy77 on Nov 6, 2009 7:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs


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