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How did the Celtics respond to their first loss of the season?   They threw up a stinker in New Jersey.   Thankfully for the Celtics, the Nets can barely dress eight players and had to start Trenton Hassell.   I know, I was surprised he's still in the league too!   

This was just a bizarre and awful game.   It was played a snail's pace, and while it seemed like the Celtics couldn't shoot - mainly Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen (up until Ray made a couple late to ice it), the Nets had lineups out there that probably haven't even practiced together.    The Celtics were fortunate that these unfamiliar Net lineups turned the ball over 23 times - 20 of those TOs were actually Celtics steals.   Marv Albert (I had the Nets broadcast) informed me that is a league high so far this year.   The turnovers really were the key to the victory tonight.

The Celtics have now played three sub-par games in a row.   Hopefully they get some much needed rest and practice time before the Jazz come to town.

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didnt get to watch but i get the feeling we are relying too much on the 3.. live by the sword, die by the sword

by 00dc2 on Nov 7, 2009 10:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Apt recap

Since that shooting exhibition in Philly, we’re shooting 10-47 from 3 (21%). That has destroyed the team’s fledgling offensive identity.

I blame the slow defense on tired legs, especially Pierce, who has been a step slow since Philly.

by snively on Nov 7, 2009 10:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not a great game for the celtics, but a win is a win.

I say they are just tired with the big 3 getting old. A much needed 3 day rest should help a ton. I’ll call a blowout win for the celtics in their next game against Utah who struggle to defend the 3.

Beginning of the Sarkisian ERA

by hportallstar on Nov 7, 2009 10:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Marv Albert.....voice of the Nets...hahahaha.

He was broadcasting from the Soprano’s basement

glad we won….let’s move on

Is it Soup Yet?

by Master Po on Nov 7, 2009 10:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

marv's toupee was so much better back then.

When Perk was asked what he thought of Howard winning the gold medal this summer, he responded: "What’s his impression of me after I won a ring?"

by Green17 on Nov 7, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Love the Fratello-Albert combo. Fratello is one of the best color commentators in the game. I enjoyed watching him marvel at how Najera ended up outrunning Ray Allen on the baseline allowing Ray to simply turn around and lay it in.

by snively on Nov 7, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not to mention that out of all the color commentators (the ones that work national games), Fratello has the best stories. I was watching the Net’s broadcast as well and he was telling a great one early on about how one time when he was coaching the Hawks and they had a game, depleted like the Nets were, with Doc Rivers on the team and talked about how Doc loved it and never wanted off the floor :)

by Spiraea on Nov 8, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

we play a team of 8

with only one starter and have to come back in the fourth quarter to win? yikes, that’s bad. thank God for the three days of rest these guys are about to get. they need it. 8 games in 12 days, and six back-to-backs. i don’t blame them for being sluggish and tired. that’s a tough start to a season. i think we’ve played more than anyone in the league at this point. here’s hoping the next 74 went as well as the first 8.

by KY Celts fan on Nov 7, 2009 10:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

My Eyes!!!

Awful game dude….

WE NEED A REAL BACKUP FOR PIERCE…

ANDRES NOCIONI!!!!

by Hanzinho on Nov 7, 2009 10:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

tired so soon?

All the commentary is about how the Celtics are fatigued, the legs are shot, the schedule has been grueling. If the Celtics are spent after 8 games, when the bench has been providing plent of relief to the starters, what is it going to be like in February or during the playoffs. The competition has not even been first-rate. Anybody can have a lousy game but if the Celtics wear themselves out this early, well, they are old, ver, very old.

by dcrane on Nov 7, 2009 10:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

That was horrid. See the game thread for more details lawl :D

Horrid, horrible etc :P

Nothing new, nothing we hadn’t seen in the Suns game :P

- Dirk 'DaarisDirk' van Boxtel, Celtic fan.

by Kiorrik on Nov 7, 2009 10:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

3-0 on Road

Schedule hasn’t been kind to C’s. Good win, though. Schedule will be even more brutal in December.

Glen Davis coming back will help a lot.

Defense wins games (And Championships)!

by Celtics18and19 on Nov 7, 2009 10:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Don't think back-up bigs are the problem

The problem is our starters have completely lost their offensive rhythm and their defensive intensity has subsided as they’ve had to focus more of their energy on manufacturing points the hard way.

This has most clearly manifested in the deep 2-pt and 3-pt bricks we’ve been laying while we slack on opposing shooters.

by snively on Nov 7, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the surprize of the season is the steady play of sheldon williams-nothing spectacular but a lot of hard work and grinding.

by nazzbo on Nov 7, 2009 11:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

early season

celtics play a lot early – if they can get through the first half the season on this kind of pace, things will be easier. I’m no BBD super fan, but getting him the ball in the post in the last two games would have helped.

Rasheed and KG have to go down low when the 3 pt is not falling.

by Brendan on Nov 8, 2009 12:18 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Since when has KG taken 3s. He never takes threes lol

by NoraG1 on Nov 8, 2009 12:53 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

too much confidence and not enough effort

I like your post Dcrane ,very good point . I also think winning the first 6 games with no losses sort of went to their heads. Maybe they think its going to be a cake walk. Teams will be gunning for them and elite teams will try to forge a better record than us.

We need all the wins we can muster because when Cleveland gets hot they will try to have less loses than us so they can have home court advantage, this goes as well for Orlando and L.A.

We have to go play the game, the work has to be put in and we just arent doing the hard work but settling for the long jumpers and defensive rebounds only.

Offensive rebounding is a good way to guage hard work and effort and the lowly Nets had 300% more offensive rebounds than us.. the o and 7 Nets !!!

When you look at the box score and see we had double digit steals and the Nets still had more shots than us it makes you think..

We have to work harder under the glass on the offensive end and we need to get closer in shots instead of so many times ,taking the easy way out and hoisting up a 20 footer.

I love the defensive mind set the team has, but would also like to see us crash the boards and get more 2nd chance shots, especially when were settling for long jumshots with the ocasional brick in there. We have size this yr with Sheldon and Rasheed so we should force the issue

by perk on Nov 8, 2009 1:00 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ok…I didn’t watch the game, but looking at the video highlights, stat sheet, and knowing that the Nets only had one starter coming in to this game, the final score really scared me. Not having Marquis for the night and having to wait on Big Baby, I understand the difficulty, but the small margin against a team of 8 players was an eye opener. Is fatigue becoming a factor already?

by braz on Nov 8, 2009 4:00 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Lazy Defense?

Chris Paul, Minnesota’s Johnny Flynn, Steve Nash and Rafer Alston all went around Rondo at will. Okay, he stole the ball from Alston, but is it me or has Rondo decided not to keep anyone in front of him? Lazy defense, just trying to poke the ball from behind?

by Little D on Nov 8, 2009 8:10 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Youre wrong bro, and youre wrong to make this about rondo, when theres players like ray alllen and KG who couldnt defend a soul 1 on 1 right now and are playing all around terrible

did u see Ray trying to defend Jrich the other night?

Rondos on the ball defense on alston was magnificent last night, and none of these players have gone by him “at will”, he still occadsionaly goes from the poke from behind, but maybe ur not paying close enough attention cause its about 15% of the time

anyways, terrbiel game from the CS all around

by tomatoc on Nov 8, 2009 8:54 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I wasn't talking about Ray or KG

This was about the best on the ball defender we have. Go back and watch the games, are my eyes deceiving me? They were all getting into the lane.

by Little D on Nov 8, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh and im absolutely stunned that someone would pick this game to talk about rondos defense…did u watch the game? alston may have gotten by rondo 1 time and struggled doing anything when rondo was pressuring him

by tomatoc on Nov 8, 2009 8:56 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How well of a job did our bigs do on Brooke Lopez? terrible

and someone please answer me who KG can defend 1 on 1? the answer is absolutly nobody, hes a great help defender, thats it…when josh boone is exploiting your 1 on 1 post defense you have issues

by tomatoc on Nov 8, 2009 9:01 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm seeing some...

…improvement in KG’s fluid motion but I have concerns also. He doesn’t have the lift back in his jump and he’s still missing how quick he can get off the floor. Here’s hoping in another ten games we see more improvement. Lopez did block two of his shots last night.

by Little D on Nov 8, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No complaints about the refs this game?

After the Suns loss there were several complaints here- but without the favorable officiating (more than 2X as many fts from 8 less fouls was enough to overcome the Nets’ 3-pt shooting and rebounding advantages) the Celtics lose.

Lopez did not get a fair shake from then refs IMO

by nba is the worst on Nov 8, 2009 9:17 AM EST reply actions   0 recs


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